Re: Parent of Target

On 8/9/17 8:24 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: the behavior is attached to a stack that is not the same stack as the target (a download button) so "this me" won't work I think it should... Object with an assigned behavior: "me" Object that contains the behavior script

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

On 08/09/2017 01:39 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: Eureka! I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but . . . A simple way to get *some* level of control structure labeling . . . So when finding the structure typed in the id of switch -- myLoop instead of simply adding an

Re: Using Find with Shell on Mac

@ bob try it in msg put $HOME see the dictionary for $ but this is one more of those "Alice in wonderland features" of LC that you will only discover after you fall into the hole (hehe) like the long owner of the target "why index" to locate and find return the long paths to the file

Re: Parent of Target

On 08/09/2017 06:24 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: local sCurrentFlavorA function returnCurrentFlavor put sCurrentFlavorA["fruit"] end returnCurrentFlavor So now, with debug on you can trace easily where things are happening. so some way to track, not only "where

Re: Weird thing I noticed with a graphics speed test

Actually, I had forgotten to set the layermode of the group. Now the number of passes on my Mac is 47 and on the android it is 31. This still seems rather close. I expected the slow android device to be like a quarter as fast. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2017, at 9:27 PM, jonathandly...@gm

Re: math, bigly

On 08/09/2017 11:05 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Fortunately, there is a potential carrot to go with the stick - we can expand the range of the bit operations (and baseConvert) to 52-bits without too much difficulty I think; and add error checking at the same time. Which would p

Weird thing I noticed with a graphics speed test

I created a group with ten buttons. I have a function that scrolls this group as many times as it can in a second. With acceleratedrendering on, it can scroll 30 times on my Mac. My very slow android device also scrolls it 30 times. With accelerated rendering off, it can scroll the group 87 tim

Re: math, bigly

On 08/09/2017 10:15 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: ...although that scale is relatively common in 'high-end' cryptography settings (factoring large numbers for the purposes of generating keys and such). Heh. And that, of course, is exactly what I was working on, and what got me

Re: Parent of Target

@ Jacque the behavior is attached to a stack that is not the same stack as the target (a download button) so "this me" won't work @ Bob " getParentStack(the long id of me). All it does is parses the long id by using wordOffset to find the word "stack" then returns word tWord to -1 of the lon

Re: Using Find with Shell on Mac

On 10/08/2017 01:10, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: You should put quotes around the "*.livecode", because find ~/ -iname "*.livecode" -print will do what I think you want to do. Whereas if you do, find ~/ -iname *.livecode -print the *.livecode is seen by, and interpreted by, she

Re: Using Find with Shell on Mac

You should put quotes around the "*.livecode", because find ~/ -iname "*.livecode" -print will do what I think you want to do. Whereas if you do, find ~/ -iname *.livecode -print the *.livecode is seen by, and interpreted by, shell - and so expands to the livecode files in your home direc

Re: Parent of Target

> On 10 Aug 2017, at 6:48 am, Monte Goulding via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have actually thought about whether it would be reasonable for `the long > id` to return such an object reference as it would stringify automagically if > necessary. However, deleting the object would mean the string

Re: Using Find with Shell on Mac

Not sure what $Home is. I didn't know you could refer to your home folder that way. But keep in mind that you can change what Spotlight does and does not index. you home folder typically is not a place you would create new folders and files for. What would be the point to indexing it? Bob S

Using Find with Shell on Mac

I'm pretty much fed up with Spotlight. On Linux apps I use Locate, which is really efficient. but setting up and keep the locate dbase on mac is also frought with issues. it will not index $Home which is weird. FIND is slower of course, but perfectly effective. this: find ~/ -iname *.liveco

Re: Parent of Target

Pretty funny... reading the conversation and I immediately thought "pointer". > > On Aug 9, 2017 at 4:17 PM, (mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com)> wrote: > > > > On 08/09/2017 01:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: > One day I > dream of an o

Re: Parent of Target

> On 10 Aug 2017, at 7:17 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > ...and then... > we could name them 'pointers' and 'handles' and I'd be very happy. > Ha… one of the reasons I thought about overloading long ID is because pointer and handle aren’t very LiveCode… Maybe reference: get t

Re: Parent of Target

On 08/09/2017 01:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: One day I dream of an object reference that we can get and use that is not a string that needs to be resolved every time it’s used but a direct reference to the object. Perhaps if someone tries to do a string operation on it then i

Re: LC stack version changes between 8 and 9

Bob Sneidar wrote: > Hah! I use NextCloud Box! $130 bucks or so and I have a local cloud > backup. ...and so much more. When I need to trade files with clients and vendors I create accounts for them and they use it as easy as Dropbox, but without the limitations. > Be forewarned though, on

Re: Parent of Target

Monte Goulding wrote: > I have actually thought about whether it would be reasonable for `the > long id` to return such an object reference as it would stringify > automagically if necessaryI think complex objects that handle many > object references and the IDE would have a significant bump

Re: LC stack version changes between 8 and 9

Hah! I use NextCloud Box! $130 bucks or so and I have a local cloud backup. Be forewarned though, once you sync a folder from your computer, NextCloud considers ITSELF the master, and unchecking a subfolder in that folder structure will DELETE THAT SUBFOLDER FROM YOUR DESKTOP! Suck! Much d

Re: BUG the target returns the wrong control in a scrolled datagrid

Confirmed here. If you populate a DG with several lines, something like: on mouseEnter put the target end mouseEnter will give scatterbrained results. I had thought at first that, if the scroll was in the middle of its range, say, and I moved the cursor into the third visible line, I migh

Re: Parent of Target

> On 10 Aug 2017, at 2:25 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have a function that returns the stack of an object by passing the long id > of the object. getParentStack(the long id of me). All it does is parses the > long id by using wordOffset to find the word "stack" then return

Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

Eureka! I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but . . . A simple way to get *some* level of control structure labeling . . . So when finding the structure typed in the id of switch -- myLoop instead of simply adding an end switch, the comment could be copied end switch -- myLoop

BUG the target returns the wrong control in a scrolled datagrid

Hi all. Remember if you will someone pointed out to me that I can get the target in a mouseEnter handler in a datagrid to determine the name of the control I was pointing at? Works great... so long as the datagrid has not scrolled! If you scroll you get a control for a completely different row

Re: LC stack version changes between 8 and 9

Yes, as Richard said, the stack file format is the same between 8.1.x and 9.0. Just note that the widget module format is different, so if you have built a custom widget in LC 8.x you'll need to recompile it in LC 9.0 (and vice versa) Best, Panos -- On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Richard Gaskin

Re: SMS message in LC?

Matthias: Thanks for the link. What I’m hoping for is a way to send both voice and sms alerts to a group. I checked out twilio and they have a very capable api, but it seems more oriented toward marketing and ongoing communication and notifications. For my needs, there might be one or two notifi

Re: LC stack version changes between 8 and 9

Bob Sneidar wrote: > Is there a stack version change from 8 to 9? If so, I would be averse > to developing much in 9 except to play around a bit just to help out. IIRC the last format change was between 8.0 and 8.1; 8.1 and 9.0 use the same format. Better, if you do a Save As and choose a spe

Re: math, bigly

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Re: the defaultStack changes on resume

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Has any one run into the following situation in LiveCode standalones? > > In a multiple window application, the user has either a standard window > or a modal dialog open (the topWindow which is

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 18:50, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Imagine the frustration of passing an invalid object reference to something like the delete command, and rather than reporting that it couldn't do what it asked you it just arbitrarily deleted some other object instead without notificati

Re: math, bigly

Mark Wieder wrote: > But what annoys me isn't the fact that baseconvert, etc (bitXor is the > one that bit me) only work on integers less than 2^32. It's more the > fact that the input data was crunched down to something the functions > could handle, and then give me the wrong result with no warni

Re: SMS message in LC?

Hi Bill, about 1 or 2 years ago i needed to send automated sms messages. I used Clickatell (http://www.clickatell.com ) for it. They have a very easy API. https://www.clickatell.com/developers/platform/api-documentation/

LC stack version changes between 8 and 9

Is there a stack version change from 8 to 9? If so, I would be averse to developing much in 9 except to play around a bit just to help out. If not, and I was reasonably assured no stack corruption was going to take place (obviously there are no guarantees, and I do make versioning backups) then

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 19:15, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: OIC. I was under the impression that the C math libraries deal with numbers of high precision better than Livecode does, perhaps themselves generating errors on overflow. Maybe that is not the case. C itself does no error checking/bounds

SMS message in LC?

Folks: Has anybody done sms and voice messaging in livecode apps? I’m looking into whether it would be feasible to create an app for emergency alerts. I am in a neighborhood where there is a high wildfire danger and various existing emergency alert systems are either very expensive or more optim

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 19:11, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: The problem I've run into is more at a higher level, dealing with number parsing and runtime overflow detection before truncating input parameters down to unsigned integers and calling the math library. Well there's two things here... 1)

Re: math, bigly

On 08/09/2017 09:32 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Please do file a bug about it - it is, at the very least, an anomaly. Done. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20254 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mai

Re: math, bigly

OIC. I was under the impression that the C math libraries deal with numbers of high precision better than Livecode does, perhaps themselves generating errors on overflow. Maybe that is not the case. Bob S > On Aug 9, 2017, at 10:11 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 08/09/2017

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 18:56, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Btw, I should mention that the way numbers work in LiveCode has become one of my biggest 'pet peeves' over the last year or so. The current way things work is too simplistic really - it hides the very important distinction between 'exact'

Re: math, bigly

On 08/09/2017 09:56 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I wonder how much leveraging SQLite can help. SQLite has only basic math functions, and you cannot use stored functions, but you CAN map functions to a C API. And if you can do THAT, then someone has written a math API, and maybe that

Re: the defaultStack changes on resume

When I suspend a stack is save the current focused object and the current selection. Then on resume stack I restore it. That seems to work really well for me. The topStack should still be the topStack no matter what. Not sure why you need to reference the defaultStack. Bob S > On Aug 9, 2017

Re: the defaultStack changes on resume

Yes I have had situations where what the built in functions were returning were not expected, and it screwed somethign up, which is why I do not rely on them. It seems a bit ambiguous to me that "this stack" might return different things depending on where the handler resides. By moving a script

Re: math, bigly

I wonder how much leveraging SQLite can help. SQLite has only basic math functions, and you cannot use stored functions, but you CAN map functions to a C API. And if you can do THAT, then someone has written a math API, and maybe that is a good place to start looking. Bob S https://stackoverf

Re: the defaultStack changes on resume

I have handlers like these also. I have multiple work-arounds. You can use suspend and resume to preserve the defaultStack and restore it. Lots of way to work-around. I am curious if others have seen this and whether anyone ever found a reproducible recipe. So you have seen this behavior? In what

Re: the defaultStack changes on resume

Here is an updated version that should work with any stack name: function getParentStack pObjectID put offset("stack ", pObjectID) into tStartChar put char tStartChar to -1 of pObjectID into tParentStack -- the long name of the parent stack return tParentStack end getParentStack Bob

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 18:29, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Looking into the engine code, by the time you get to the actual bitXor code, the input arguments are already unsigned integers. Since I was passing 20-hex-digit values to bitXor, I would have expected some kind of runtime warning or error o

Re: the defaultStack changes on resume

BTW I worked around this by using my getParentStack() function. Here it is: function getParentCard pObjectID put offset("card id", pObjectID) into tStartChar put char tStartChar to -1 of pObjectID into tCardID return tCardID end getParentCard function getParentStack pObjectID put wor

Re: math, bigly

Hi Mark. I remember an old trick to determine if a math function was overflowing. Run the equasion backwards and see if that result equals the initial value. This will reveal rounding errors too. Bob S > On Aug 8, 2017, at 18:38 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Phooey... > >

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 18:29, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Looking into the engine code, by the time you get to the actual bitXor code, the input arguments are already unsigned integers. Since I was passing 20-hex-digit values to bitXor, I would have expected some kind of runtime warning or error o

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 18:14, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Oops. OK - point sheepishly taken. Is that the definition of integer in the dictionary? The "integer" entry just says "if the value contains digits (and an optional minus sign) and no other characters, it is an integer", which is as simplis

Re: math, bigly

On 08/09/2017 02:58 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: The engine hasn't ever done range checks on integers - mainly because numbers are doubles so (in most ases) you just lose accuracy / precision as the numbers get larger. In this case it *could* because it is actually using integer

Re: math, bigly

I agree. At least the result should contain something about an overflow. Bob S > On Aug 9, 2017, at 09:14 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > But what annoys me isn't the fact that baseconvert, etc (bitXor is the one > that bit me) only work on integers less than 2^32. It's more the

Re: Parent of Target

I have a function that returns the stack of an object by passing the long id of the object. getParentStack(the long id of me). All it does is parses the long id by using wordOffset to find the word "stack" then returns word tWord to -1 of the long id. Pretty basic. That method can be used for

Re: math, bigly

On 08/09/2017 02:36 AM, hh via use-livecode wrote: Mark wrote: but I'm annoyed that the IDE doesn't give me an overflow warning if I try to perform an operation on a number that's bigger than 0x. Instead, it just happily trims it down to an unsigned integer and proceeds to give me a wrong

Track Mobile Player Props from Back Script

If we set up a "lib_MobileControls" and start using on init, effectlvely adding this lib to the backscript. how does this: on playerPropertyAvailable theProperty if theProperty is "duration" then answer "You can now query the length of the movie" end if end playerPropertyAv

the defaultStack changes on resume

Has any one run into the following situation in LiveCode standalones? In a multiple window application, the user has either a standard window or a modal dialog open (the topWindow which is also the defaultStack). They navigate to a 3rd party application and by some means back to the LC standalone

Re: math, bigly

On 2017-08-09 11:36, hh via use-livecode wrote: Mark wrote: but I'm annoyed that the IDE doesn't give me an overflow warning if I try to perform an operation on a number that's bigger than 0x. Instead, it just happily trims it down to an unsigned integer and proceeds to give me a wron

Re: Android Browser Widget JS problem

Thanks Hermann, I have that page, but the event object does not have touches in it, which apparently is some times an issue with android webviews. It does have e.latitude and e.longitude, which tells me that the webglearth library is modifying the event object but is not keeping e.pageX and sim

Re: math, bigly

> Mark wrote: > but I'm annoyed that the IDE doesn't give me an overflow warning if I try > to perform an operation on a number that's bigger than 0x. > Instead, it just happily trims it down to an unsigned integer and proceeds > to give me a wrong result. Hey Mark. Don't complain because

Re: Android Browser Widget JS problem

Have you already seen the answer from here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9585487/cant-get-coordinates-of-touchevents-in-javascript-on-android-devices ?? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscrib