Re: Zealous 'file format' save notifications

2016-11-01 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Monte wrote: This came about because the cost of determining if a file could be saved back to a pre-7 file version was too high yet the risk of not informing the user they are likely to loose data by doing so was also too high. But teaching people to ignore that dialog, because it appears wh

Re: Zealous 'file format' save notifications

2016-11-01 Thread Monte Goulding
This came about because the cost of determining if a file could be saved back to a pre-7 file version was too high yet the risk of not informing the user they are likely to loose data by doing so was also too high. > On 2 Nov. 2016, at 9:36 am, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > > I recently started work

Zealous 'file format' save notifications

2016-11-01 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I recently started working with a file from 6.7.11 in 8.1.1. Having carefully set the file format preservation, so that I can continue to work with it back and forth between 6.7.11 and 8.1.1, I now get this message each time I save: The preference to preserve stack file formats is set,

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Graham Samuel
Richard, the original of this message ended up in the Junk folder on my Mac with [Virus Error] prefixed to the Subject line. Just FYI Graham > On 1 Nov 2016, at 19:50, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > This didn't seem to go through - resending: > > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re:

Re: short name broken?

2016-11-01 Thread hh
If documents/stacks titled "Untitled" is OK, why not objects (short) named "Unnamed"? ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://list

Re: Goofy question about Datagrids

2016-11-01 Thread dunbarx
Richmond. Very little, in the narrow sense that you ask the question. They are both tab and return delimited data gadgets. In a table field, like any field, you just put in formatted text. In a DG, you set the dgText (or dgData). At the very lowest level of increased functionality, or at least di

Re: Trigger Warnings in Livecode postings?

2016-11-01 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
You obviously missed the cranberries in the picture. And the asparagus. Something for everyone. That turkey does look good. He obviously did not receive a “trigger” warning. I’m curious… I assumed Thanksgiving with turkey, etc. was an American holiday only. Has rabid American imperialism taken

Re: Using tsNet for sftp directory file listing

2016-11-01 Thread Skip Kimpel
Thanks Richard, This whole tsNet thing has got me all turned around. Of course the example you gave works... I am just trying to figure out how this is all aligning with the future of secured sockets. SKIP On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Skip Kimpel wrote: > > > On 29/

Re: short name broken?

2016-11-01 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Richard When I was working on lcVCS we discussed this on the engine forums and agreed that the properties -> “name” should be empty instead of this abbreviated id. So you can use that to work out if there’s no name. I’m still not sure why it’s helpful for the short name to be returned as an

Re: Goofy question about Datagrids

2016-11-01 Thread Richmond
Possibly . . . But what I really meant was "what advantage does a datagrid have over a tableField vis-a-vis spreadsheet handling?" Sorry; finding it rather difficult to formulate an uneasy feeling I've had about datagrids ever since they were first introduced. Richmond. On 1.11.2016 21:15,

Trigger Warnings in Livecode postings?

2016-11-01 Thread Richmond
Why didn't the "Turkey" e-mail message contain a Trigger Warning so that vegetarians were not traumatised? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscriptio

Re: Goofy question about Datagrids

2016-11-01 Thread Mike Kerner
N00bs should also check out modTableField and tableLab (Bernd and Scott, respectively) http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/modTableField/modTableField_0_1_9.livecode.zip http://forums.livecode.com/download/file.php?id=5458&sid=672cdd04a95bc2c80430bc1bc88b7470 On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Peter TB

Re: Goofy question about Datagrids

2016-11-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/11/2016 18:29, Richmond wrote: What advantage has a datagrid over a tableField? You can build each row of datagrid using any controls or widgets. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett LiveCode Technical Project Manager lcb-mode for Emacs: https://github.com/peter-b/l

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: > I am surprised that the day and month names aren't in the user's > language though, I thought they would be. It may help to consider the use case most RFCs address. While a developer can choose anything they like to display to a human consumer of information, most RFC-

Fwd: Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
This didn't seem to go through - resending: Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Internet date Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 11:18:21 -0700 From: Richard Gaskin To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com J. Landman Gay wrote: I am surprised that the day and month names aren't in the user's languag

Re: Goofy question about Datagrids

2016-11-01 Thread Roger Eller
Hi Richmond, I'll give you an 'improperly formulated' explanation of my own experience with datagrids. They are more complicated to use (at first). So most of the time I still use a table field for everything except where the nice appearance of a datagrid gives the design a polished and professi

Re: short name broken?

2016-11-01 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
On a somewhat related note, I filed this bug yesterday: Property Inspector doesn't retain new control name when clicking properties checkboxes http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18740 Peter Bogdanoff On Nov 1, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > dunbarx wrote: > > > > Ric

Re: Using tsNet for sftp directory file listing

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Skip Kimpel wrote: > On 29/10/2016 7:52 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> It's been a while since I've used FTP, but IIRC in previous versions >> you could just use "get" on a directory and it'll return the file >> list (note that the trailing "/" is important to let libURL know >> it's dealing wit

Goofy question about Datagrids

2016-11-01 Thread Richmond
What advantage has a datagrid over a tableField? I would be very grateful indeed for a properly formulated explanation. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage yo

Re: short name broken?

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
dunbarx wrote: > Richard wroteL >> In v9 try: >> >> 1. Create a new field >. 2. In the Message Box, run: >> >>put the short name of last field >> >> I get the name instead, e.g. "field id 1009". >> >> IIRC the short name of a field is empty until you set it. When a >> field is unnamed, "the

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: >> Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That >> is, except for the spelling of the day and month names, is the format >> always the same? > > I believe the whole rest of the IT world solved this a long time > ago.. and I've had an enhance

AW: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Once you make it right, it's so easy. Without a starting slash the relative path works fine, like you said it: "resources/myImage.png" Sometime you don't see the obvious... Thanks Jacque Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auf

AW: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
As far as I see it, you can't set the filename of an image in the property inspector to a specialfolderpath(). Only by script, but since I don't have all of my tons of images linked to an external source, this would make some effort to assign the specialfolderpath() to only the wanted images, ev

Re: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Devin Asay
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:22 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > On November 1, 2016 9:20:17 AM "Tiemo Hollmann TB" > wrote: > >> On windows I only create the windows standalone. For the final tests, >> adaptions and creating the standalone for Mac OS, I copy the source stack to >> my Mac. Here comes

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi the time the internet date returns depends on the timezone you´ve selected in your settings. On my Mac i changed for example my timezone from Central European time to NewZealand summertime and my internet date changed from Tue, 1 Nov 2016 17:21:22 +0100 to Wed, 2 Nov 2016 05:20:03 +130

Re: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On November 1, 2016 9:20:17 AM "Tiemo Hollmann TB" wrote: On windows I only create the windows standalone. For the final tests, adaptions and creating the standalone for Mac OS, I copy the source stack to my Mac. Here comes my issue. All of my images have a windows path as source reference, lik

Re: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Devin Asay
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Tore Nilsen wrote: > > You should probably use the specialFolderPath(“resources”) to set the > relative path to your images. This should work on all systems. +1 In the development environment this function returns the path to the folder where your stack resides.

Re: Using tsNet for sftp directory file listing

2016-11-01 Thread Skip Kimpel
I am still struggling putting this code together correctly. Does anybody have any working examples of downloading a single file, via sftp protocol? I think I can work backwards from there. SKIP On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Charles Warwick < char...@techstrategies.com.au> wrote: > On 29/10/

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
But you can get the localized week day names: put the system weekdaynames — be aware that this sets sunday as the first day of the week no matter where you are You can get the localized names of the months: put the system monthnames Regards Tore > 1. nov. 2016 kl. 16.48 skrev J. Landman Gay :

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
I call this sql date in my formatDate() function. Bob S On Nov 1, 2016, at 07:56 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami mailto:bra...@hindu.org>> wrote: in a related note… Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That is, except for the spelling of the day and month names, is the f

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
Thanks everyone, that tells me what I needed to know. I am surprised that the day and month names aren't in the user's language though, I thought they would be. Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On

Re: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
You should probably use the specialFolderPath(“resources”) to set the relative path to your images. This should work on all systems. Tore > 1. nov. 2016 kl. 15.11 skrev Tiemo Hollmann TB : > > Hello, > > > > after I got the trick on how to handle multiple image sources for different > screen

Re: short name broken?

2016-11-01 Thread dunbarx
Richard. If I make a new control, and immediately ask for its name, or short name, I have always gotten the default name in the inspector, which is something like: field "field" or button "button". Never empty. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabb

short name broken?

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
In v9 try: 1. Create a new field 2. In the Message Box, run: put the short name of last field I get the name instead, e.g. "field id 1009". IIRC the short name of a field is empty until you set it. When a field is unnamed, "the short name" returns empty and "the name" would return the for

Re: How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Paul Dupuis
I'd love to know what people consider the "best practice" solution to this problem is as well. On 11/1/2016 10:11 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hello, > > > > after I got the trick on how to handle multiple image sources for different > screen resolutions, I began changing all images in my pro

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
in a related note… > Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That > is, except for the spelling of the day and month names, is the format > always the same? I believe the whole rest of the IT world solved this a long time ago.. and I've had an enhancement request in for lit

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
And I guess that is part of the reasoning for the internet date. You can be sure that the information will have a specific format, regardless of any other factors that may affect the way the information is formatted. Put the info in a variable, extract and format the parts you need to your own l

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Tore Nilsen
Use systemDate does not apply to the internet date. I got the same result with this set to both true and false. Tore > 1. nov. 2016 kl. 15.24 skrev Richard Gaskin : > > J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That > > is, except for the spelli

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: > Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That > is, except for the spelling of the day and month names, is the format > always the same? I believe all dates in LC are delivered using US English spellings, except when explicitly directed otherwise by

How do you maintain image source reference on multiple platforms?

2016-11-01 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, after I got the trick on how to handle multiple image sources for different screen resolutions, I began changing all images in my programs from imported images to external references. I created on my development platform windows a "resource" folder under my development folder, reference

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Richmond
Here, in Bulgaria: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:15:56 +0200 *Richmond.* On 1.11.2016 08:59, Thierry Douez wrote: and in France: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 07:57:56 +0100 2016-11-01 7:38 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay : Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That is, except for the spelling of

Re: Internet date

2016-11-01 Thread Thierry Douez
and in France: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 07:57:56 +0100 2016-11-01 7:38 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay : > Is the internet date in a consistent format in every country? That is, > except for the spelling of the day and month names, is the format always > the same? > > Where I am, it is: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 01:35: