Re: Browser Widget vs the "old" RevBrowser

2016-08-23 Thread AndyP
Hi, A couple of your questions may have been answered here. http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27793 - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free

Browser Widget vs the "old" RevBrowser

2016-08-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
We've had a major obstacle with the use of the browser widget confirmed and fixed.. and "awaiting release" it has to do with the browser widget not being "destroyed" when no longer in view if you open a second stack in mobile, the browser widget is still there in the pixel space above the whole

Re: Performance issues LC8 versus earlier versions.

2016-08-23 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 24 Aug 2016, at 9:06 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > After reviewing the code path I see that there is an attempt made to parse > the binary value into a number to try and compare numerically before doing > the binary comparison. It may be we can change the order here and if both > left an

RE: Targetting teachers

2016-08-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I haven't used Moodle myself so I have no opinion about it. > But it seems very popular. > > For comparison, LiveCode.com's Alexa ranking is very healthy > at 139,248, but Moodle astounds with a ranking of 9,085. > > They must be doing something right. What might we learn from > their succ

Re: Performance issues LC8 versus earlier versions.

2016-08-23 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 24 Aug 2016, at 8:23 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > On 22/08/2016 15:47, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Alex Tweedly wrote: >> >> > Would caseSensitive make it faster ? >> >> In theory yes, since it avoids having to run the internal equivalent of >> toLower on each thing being compared. >> > But

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Devin Asay
> On Aug 23, 2016, at 3:27 PM, stephen barncard > wrote: > > Imagine writing a Z80 disassembler in a 6502 assembler. > On Aug 23, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > I did once have to program a machine using toggle switches. But that was as > part of a computer course in 1982, long

Re: Performance issues LC8 versus earlier versions.

2016-08-23 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 22/08/2016 15:47, Richard Gaskin wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: > Would caseSensitive make it faster ? In theory yes, since it avoids having to run the internal equivalent of toLower on each thing being compared. But since these are bytes, not chars, that doesn't apply. However in some re

Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Richmond wrote: > Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" . > . . I pronounced it ED-IN-BURG for years Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org ___ use-livecode mailing l

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread stephen barncard
Imagine writing a Z80 disassembler in a 6502 assembler. Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription p

Re: Targetting teachers

2016-08-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > On 23.08.2016 22:09, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Today's audience has very different needs from when that article was >> written in 1999. And with HyperCard designed as an authoring tool >> while LiveCode is designed as a development tool, the opportunities >> for using LiveCode

Re: IPv6 & Apple

2016-08-23 Thread Matthias Rebbe
And for Livecode server there is a short tutorial with downloadable sample code about how to access Maria/MySQL databases from desktop or mobile apps using LiveCode server at https://www.hostm.com/tutorials/livecode/api-mariadb-mysql

Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Well, as most North Americans seem to pronounce "Edinburgh" as "Edinbro" . . . one could almost say that the Fiasco grows and grows! Divided by a common language we stand; United we . . . ? Richmond. On 23.08.2016 22:34, m...@jerrydaniels.com wrote: Glad to be here, BR. But then I tend to fee

Re: Targetting teachers

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
On 23.08.2016 22:09, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > Looking for something else I stumbled on this: > > https://archive.org/details/ERIC_ED432257 ... > Now all that needs to be done is substitute 'Livecode' for > 'Hypercard', so I would really like to know: > > 1. Why that is not being

Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-23 Thread me
Glad to be here, BR. But then I tend to feel that way wherever I might be. Nonetheless, thx for the ack! On Aug 23, 2016, 2:01 PM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami , wrote: > uh oh… Now I have to read the list just to read Jerry's "stand up" > deliveries. Welcome back Jerry. Your spirit was mis

Re: Markdown in 8.1dp2 Mac app builds

2016-08-23 Thread mwieder
I think I'm missing some messages from the archives, as I was unable to find the original post in this thread. Yeah, the listserv has been dropping messages for me for over a week now. I've been excommunicated at least twice (using Nabble now). Here's the original thread from 10 July:

Re: blockchain

2016-08-23 Thread David Bovill
Thanks for the link! On 23 August 2016 at 20:00, Jerry Jensen wrote: > IEEE is getting interested in blockchain technology. Here’s a basic > article: > > http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-topics/computing/ > getting-linked-to-the-blockchain > > .Jerry J > > > On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:17 AM, D

Re: Markdown in 8.1dp2 Mac app builds

2016-08-23 Thread me
Thx for the note, Swamiji. I tried dp3 also and found it much better. Richard, it was impossible to include the mergEXT markdown lib in a build w dp3. monte was aware. On Aug 23, 2016, 2:01 PM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami , wrote: > Jerry wrote: > > Also, dp2 may be too unstable for me to

Re: Markdown in 8.1dp2 Mac app builds

2016-08-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > Jerry wrote: > > Also, dp2 may be too unstable for me to be productive. > > FWIW: dp2 had me deep in despair (couldn't get anything done)… been > working in dp3 for two weeks. it is a whole different experience… > even the project browser now works. I thin

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Super: https://web.archive.org/web/20140222193139/http://www.scoopsfolks.com/digicomp1 Richmond. On 23.08.2016 21:51, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: Well, MY first programming was with the Digi-Comp, a 3-bit plastic mechanical computer during the 1960s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digi-Comp_I

Re: Targetting teachers

2016-08-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > Looking for something else I stumbled on this: > > https://archive.org/details/ERIC_ED432257 ... > Now all that needs to be done is substitute 'Livecode' for > 'Hypercard', so I would really like to know: > > 1. Why that is not being pushed in a major way (articles in teaching >

Re: blockchain

2016-08-23 Thread Jerry Jensen
IEEE is getting interested in blockchain technology. Here’s a basic article: http://theinstitute.ieee.org/technology-topics/computing/getting-linked-to-the-blockchain .Jerry J > On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:17 AM, David Bovill wrote: > > Mike that would be great. I'd like to get together a small grou

Re: Very OT - Bad pun

2016-08-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
uh oh… Now I have to read the list just to read Jerry's "stand up" deliveries. Welcome back Jerry. Your spirit was missed. BR Jerry Daniels-3 wrote and I can't think of anything that rhymes Edinburgh... but if we moved it just a little ways away we could call it the "Fiasco is Glasgow"

Re: Markdown in 8.1dp2 Mac app builds

2016-08-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Jerry wrote: Also, dp2 may be too unstable for me to be productive. FWIW: dp2 had me deep in despair (couldn't get anything done)… been working in dp3 for two weeks. it is a whole different experience… even the project browser now works. ___ use-

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
In the 1960s, amongst other things, I learnt to walk, talk, and read and write: not seeing any computery anything until 1975. Richmond. On 23.08.2016 21:51, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: Well, MY first programming was with the Digi-Comp, a 3-bit plastic mechanical computer during the 1960s. https:/

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Well, MY first programming was with the Digi-Comp, a 3-bit plastic mechanical computer during the 1960s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digi-Comp_I It was very strict. Peter Bogdanoff > On Aug 23, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Richmond wrote: > > Well that's

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Well that's because my cousin, Stephen Mathewson set up the first computer system at Imperial College in London . . . http://sim.sagepub.com/content/23/6/181.abstract Richmond. On 23.08.2016 20:46, Mike Kerner wrote: The fact that you remember how to spell the man's name just proves the poin

RE: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Ralph DiMola
>Mike Kerner wrote: >On some processors, it's like writing in a high-level language. Like Vaxs(before Alpha risc). There are 15 addressing modes(like register auto increment) and instructions like Polynomial Evaluation and CRC. By the way I maintain an old VMS system for a customer that has bee

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
too young. you lose On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I did once have to program a machine using toggle switches. But that was > as part of a computer course in 1982, long after the machine in question > was still in use. > > > > On Aug 23, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Mike Kerner

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Colin Holgate
I did once have to program a machine using toggle switches. But that was as part of a computer course in 1982, long after the machine in question was still in use. > On Aug 23, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > OMG stop. Let's not all brag about how old we are. Holereth my ass. > I

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
The fact that you remember how to spell the man's name just proves the point. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Richmond wrote: > "Holereth my ass." > > Does that involve 2 spelling mistakes or only one? > > I'm trying to envisage hitting a donkey with a Hollerith card, which if > you think about

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
"Holereth my ass." Does that involve 2 spelling mistakes or only one? I'm trying to envisage hitting a donkey with a Hollerith card, which if you think about things is not quite as bad as if there are 2 (from a British perspective) spelling mistakes there. Especially if one understands "Holl

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Well, I've forgotten more Zilog than young I have eaten. Do I regret forgetting it? Do I feel a great sense of loss? Not a bit of it: in fact I was "born again" through xTalk languages. Richmond "Dvija Bandhu" Mathewson. On 23.08.2016 19:34, stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
OMG stop. Let's not all brag about how old we are. Holereth my ass. I have not found an assembly language that I didn't like. On some processors, it's like writing in a high-level language. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:27 PM, wrote: > I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this wa

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread dunbarx
I miss eight toggle switches with eight little lamps (this was before LED's). Craig -Original Message- From: stephen barncard To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm Subject: Re: Strict is in; lax is out On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Richmond wrote: > C "is the

Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-23 Thread Matt Maier
I keep getting a red error popup every time I finish writing a word. It cites the autocomplete-plus package. No idea how to get it to stop covering half the window in red error messages. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I even run into this situation with enter when typing "

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Richmond wrote: > C "is the mother of all languages": I assume you are being extremely > coarse, > > because C is not the "Mummy" of all languages. > the most granular of all computer languages are the hex opcodes that drive your favorite processor of choice...

Re: Wouldn't it be neat...

2016-08-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Aug 22, 2016, at 16:39 , Roger Guay wrote: >> >> Clicking a button should only deselect text when the button's >> traversalOn property is true. > > This is not true for me. I have a field and a popup menu, largely > because I could not get popup menus to work the way they

Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
I even run into this situation with enter when typing "then" for an "if then". On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Here's another one: Once atom memorizes a token (say, for example one > that's a typo, perhaps with capitalization that's wrong, because > capitalization matters

Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
Here's another one: Once atom memorizes a token (say, for example one that's a typo, perhaps with capitalization that's wrong, because capitalization matters in LCB), how do you get rid of the wrong token? On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I'm not hitting Enter because I wa

Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
I'm not hitting Enter because I want to accept the suggestion. I'm hitting Enter because I want a CR. So Enter is more like "ignore the suggestion and give me a CR" On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > That sounds like the nature of auto complete. You could work around the

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
C "is the mother of all languages": I assume you are being extremely coarse, because C is not the "Mummy" of all languages. Richmond. On 23.08.2016 17:57, Bob Sneidar wrote: Err... Wh??? Bob S On Aug 22, 2016, at 21:21 , Erik Beugelaar mailto:beugel...@solidit.nl>> wrote: Shortly, In

Re: Atom Issues

2016-08-23 Thread Colin Holgate
That sounds like the nature of auto complete. You could work around the issue by using Tab to do the completing. > On Aug 23, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > > Does anyone have any issues using Atom that they want to share? I have one > that is biting me frequently: If Atom is trying

Atom Issues

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
Does anyone have any issues using Atom that they want to share? I have one that is biting me frequently: If Atom is trying to suggest a token, and I hit CR, I don't get a CR. If I'm not watching, I can wind up with several lines all appended together. Instead of having to do cmd-CR to get a CR,

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Err... Wh??? Bob S On Aug 22, 2016, at 21:21 , Erik Beugelaar mailto:beugel...@solidit.nl>> wrote: Shortly, In my opinion you should always have a good knowledge of C (strict typed) because it is the mother of all languages ___ use-livecode mail

Re: Back to the Garden of Eden

2016-08-23 Thread Earthednet-wp
Richmond, Very true. It's hard for those experienced enough to write a book, to know which details might confuse a newbie. The ones I like use a bunch of sort, real world, simple examples, to demonstrate how to create the code. Now is a great time to write a new one, now that v8 is nearing compl

Re: Wouldn't it be neat...

2016-08-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
This is not true for me. I have a field and a popup menu, largely because I could not get popup menus to work the way they did in LC6 (I never used 7). When I select text in the field, then popup the menu, it deselects the text in the field. More specifically, it sets the insertion point after t

Re: IPv6 & Apple

2016-08-23 Thread Earthednet-wp
I put up a simple stack that might help you get started with php access to a MySQL db, perhaps helpful. http://es.earthednet.org/SoftwareForEducation Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:19 PM, Charles Warwick > wrote: > >> On 23/08/2016 2:27 pm, Charl

Re: Wouldn't it be neat...

2016-08-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Guay wrote: > What I discovered is that a field (used for another feature) in my > rTools general catchall plugin butts in and prevents this code from > seeing the selectedText of the topStack. Indeed, if a paste a field > in your TextToolBar stack (which I love, BTW), your stack fails as >

Re: Strict is in; lax is out

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Kerner
Golf clap for Jerry. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami < bra...@hindu.org> wrote: > m...@jerrydaniels.com> wrote: > > Exactly, Mike. I remembered the exclamation mark. But I was exercising > my laxness. > > LOL (good one…) > > We live in laxness land (Hawaii) and my

Re: Wouldn't it be neat...

2016-08-23 Thread Roger Guay
What I discovered is that a field (used for another feature) in my rTools general catchall plugin butts in and prevents this code from seeing the selectedText of the topStack. Indeed, if a paste a field in your TextToolBar stack (which I love, BTW), your stack fails as well. And the solution . .

Re: Cross platform Emoji in a field within a group

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
If by "pooh" you mean excrement, there is an excrement icon in the Unicode specs but not on that code page. Believe me working with young children learning Livecode the excrement icon features fairly large . . . "Pile of Poo" http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1F4A9/index.htm "Nails"

Re: [TOT] Totally Off . . .

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Thank you very much for those. I have the former one: although the physical book I have is the 4th edition and is entitled The Complete Hypercard 2.2 Handbook so should be the last version that Goodman wrote, and therefore as up to date to the point when Hypercard stopped being upgraded as

Re: Cross platform Emoji in a field within a group

2016-08-23 Thread David V Glasgow
So emoticons are rendered as a font character, and emoji are unicode references that are rendered by the OS? I didn’t know that. No pooh, nails, or ghost, but the simplicity of using a font has advantages. Thanks Richmond. Incidentally, I stumbled across Danny Goodman’s book yesterday, and

Re: [TOT] Totally Off . . .

2016-08-23 Thread Lagi Pittas
HI Richmond, Although I have my dead trees I always try to find a pdf version of any paper version I have - as its easier than carrying all those books - but there is something about flicking through a REAL book. So here is one that's been around for ages on archive.org https://ia801004.us.a

Targetting teachers

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Looking for something else I stumbled on this: https://archive.org/details/ERIC_ED432257 "Computer Assisted Instruction (CAI) is, quite simply, an instance in which instructional content activities are delivered via a computer. Many commercially-available software programs, although excellent

[TOT] Totally Off . . .

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Look what I found: ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/documentation/macintosh/ Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http:

Re: Cross platform Emoji in a field within a group

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
How about using a ttf font? Check out the Unicode specs on this: http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F600.pdf Richmond. On 23.08.2016 13:06, David V Glasgow wrote: Hello folks, I am fiddling with an app which involves fairly complex grouped objects each of which I want to be ‘taggable' usi

Re: Back to the Garden of Eden

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
The problem, and it is a very real problem, is how to escape the trap that very many authors of programming manuals fall into: forgetting that their target audience probably does not know a lot of what they know, but, at the same time not trotting out a lot of stuff that sounds condescendin

Cross platform Emoji in a field within a group

2016-08-23 Thread David V Glasgow
Hello folks, I am fiddling with an app which involves fairly complex grouped objects each of which I want to be ‘taggable' using a subset of emoji. Probably a little line of them in a bar across the top of each group I am trying to decide whether to use a collection of png on an emoji card, or

Re: Back to the Garden of Eden

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
Guess that makes me the snake. R. On 23.08.2016 12:48, hh wrote: Richmond M. wrote Back to the Garden of Eden The big problem may be that you already bit into (the) apple. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit th

Re: Back to the Garden of Eden

2016-08-23 Thread Antti Ilola
I have it in my bookcase since 90's among other computer books. There it is reminding me of those "good old days". 2016-08-23 12:37 GMT+03:00 Richmond : > I, finally, got my copy of 'The Complete Hypercard 2.2 Handbook' by Danny > Goodman from the attic of my house in Scotland . . . involving, am

Re: Back to the Garden of Eden

2016-08-23 Thread hh
> Richmond M. wrote > Back to the Garden of Eden The big problem may be that you already bit into (the) apple. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription pre

Back to the Garden of Eden

2016-08-23 Thread Richmond
I, finally, got my copy of 'The Complete Hypercard 2.2 Handbook' by Danny Goodman from the attic of my house in Scotland . . . involving, amongst other things, having to stay in a bed-&-breakfast because there are tenants in my house. Feels very good indeed to have my hands on it. Mind you no