Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mark Wieder
On 06/30/2016 11:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Which distro? I've been able to use the Dictionary on 64-bit Ubuntu (14.04, 15.10, and 16.04) ever since LC v8.0rc1. @LC Ltd: good work on the Dictionary UI refinements. MUCH mo

PDF version of Docs quickly generated in LC8.1DP2

2016-06-30 Thread jameshale
Recently I noticed a comment regarding the PDF User Guide which implied that now when you select it from the Help menu within LC it gets generated on the fly from the guides present in the Dictionary. So I thought I would give it a go. I am using LC8.1DP2 In less time than it took to generate ON

RE: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

2016-06-30 Thread Erik Beugelaar
Yes, totally agree with that. The UI controls of a cross-platform visual design tool should be presented as they are in real life. Cheers, Erik Sent from solidit -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Terence Heaford Sent: v

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

2016-06-30 Thread Terence Heaford
> On 30 Jun 2016, at 20:25, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > OS APIs change out from under the engine with expensive regularity, and all > the while, even as mobile enhancements would indeed be valuable, there's a > rather long list of other things we're asking them to do as well. Perhaps LiveCode

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Warren Samples
On 06/30/2016 03:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Warren Samples wrote: > I can't open LiveCode on my Linux machine running the current release > of openSUSE (Leap). I can, however, run it under different release > versions of openSUSE and have it open right now in a virtual machine > running op

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-06-30 23:34, Mike Kerner wrote: well, "return error x" gives me a syntax error, and the documentation specifies the syntax I describe, and indicates that it changed in 8.1.0, so before I do anything, why don't we clarify what we think it's supposed to be, first. The release note is i

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Monte Goulding
I don’t think there’s a bug but it may be appear so depending on how you test the function. For example: get func() — will set it to the return val so don’t do that to test this Additionally the result is district from the value of the function so: put func() is the result — will be false For

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner
well, "return error x" gives me a syntax error, and the documentation specifies the syntax I describe, and indicates that it changed in 8.1.0, so before I do anything, why don't we clarify what we think it's supposed to be, first. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 30/06

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 30/06/2016 22:20, Mike Kerner wrote: in a function, In a function, return x for error does nothing - the function terminates without returning a value, and it and the result are empty. return x for value and return x do the same thing - the container assigned gets the return value gets x, th

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner
FYI, the new return syntax is different than what was described. return x for error return x for value return x The behavior: with a handler, return x for error and return x do the same thing - the result gets x and it gets nothing. With return x for value, it gets x and the result gets nothing.

Re: the detailed folders returning incorrect data

2016-06-30 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 6/30/2016 4:06 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 30/06/2016 20:48, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> My understanding is that Windows lacks true POSIX file-system-level >> permissions as found in Linux and in Unix flavors like macOS. >> >> While it does have file attributes, I believe there is no >> file-sy

Re: the detailed folders returning incorrect data

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 30/06/2016 21:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: Back on topic, your description suggests that showing "777" for Windows files is indeed a bug in LC, since it doesn't accurately reflect the permissions of the file, yes? Well, it's more of a missing feature. LiveCode / Revolution has never pretende

Re: the detailed folders returning incorrect data

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 30/06/2016 20:48, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> My understanding is that Windows lacks true POSIX file-system-level >> permissions as found in Linux and in Unix flavors like macOS. >> >> While it does have file attributes, I believe there is no >> file-system-level support f

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 30/06/2016 20:45, Roger Eller wrote: > > Well well well, I just downloaded 8.1 dp2, and for the FIRST TIME (for my >> Win 7 system) using 8.x there were no startup errors (finally!), and the >> Dictionary actually opens. However, the te

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Warren Samples wrote: > I can't open LiveCode on my Linux machine running the current release > of openSUSE (Leap). I can, however, run it under different release > versions of openSUSE and have it open right now in a virtual machine > running openSUSE Tumbleweed. The dictionary seems to work jus

Re: the detailed folders returning incorrect data

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 30/06/2016 20:48, Richard Gaskin wrote: My understanding is that Windows lacks true POSIX file-system-level permissions as found in Linux and in Unix flavors like macOS. While it does have file attributes, I believe there is no file-system-level support for granting different rights to differ

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Warren Samples
On 06/30/2016 11:02 AM, Richmond wrote: Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Richmond. I understand your frustration, Richmond. I can't open LiveCode on my Linux machine running the current release of openSUSE (Leap). I can, however, run it under different release versions of o

Re: the detailed folders returning incorrect data

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Dupuis wrote: > In 8.1 dp-2 (and as far back as 6.7.11) if you get "the detailed > folders" and check item 10 (folder permissions) it is ALWAYS 777 under > Windows (8.1 at least) regardless of the actual folder permissions. > BUG RECIPE: Make a folder read-only and fetch the detailed folders

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 30/06/2016 20:45, Roger Eller wrote: Well well well, I just downloaded 8.1 dp2, and for the FIRST TIME (for my Win 7 system) using 8.x there were no startup errors (finally!), and the Dictionary actually opens. However, the text of the really long names like mergBLECentralDidSubscribeToChara

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Roger Eller wrote: > >> I never build for Windows in OS X. So I only know when it worked and >> stopped and worked again on Windows. I do recall some talk about the Mac >> version still having the issue for a while after 6.7.5. >> > > Any

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ben Rubinstein wrote: On 29/06/2016 00:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: People do all sorts of things. Some might even have a 45-degree angled progress bar. Not everything folks might want comes in the tin. :) Yep, but lots of people want horizontal and vertical progress bars, which do come in our

the detailed folders returning incorrect data

2016-06-30 Thread Paul Dupuis
In 8.1 dp-2 (and as far back as 6.7.11) if you get "the detailed folders" and check item 10 (folder permissions) it is ALWAYS 777 under Windows (8.1 at least) regardless of the actual folder permissions. BUG RECIPE: Make a folder read-only and fetch the detailed folders of it's parent folder. Ther

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Which distro? I've been able to use the Dictionary on 64-bit Ubuntu (14.04, 15.10, and 16.04) ever since LC v8.0rc1. @LC Ltd: good work on the Dictionary UI refinements. MUCH more usable. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World S

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: I never build for Windows in OS X. So I only know when it worked and stopped and worked again on Windows. I do recall some talk about the Mac version still having the issue for a while after 6.7.5. Any potential bug symptoms evident in v6.x or v7.x need to be checked in th

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Roger Eller
I never build for Windows in OS X. So I only know when it worked and stopped and worked again on Windows. I do recall some talk about the Mac version still having the issue for a while after 6.7.5. ~Roger On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > Hi Roger, > > Thanks for your

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Richmond
Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Richmond. On 30.06.2016 16:00, Peter TB Brett wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this i

Re: Monte Goulding's day off? ; -) the outcome.

2016-06-30 Thread Lagi Pittas
Hi In the end what I did was when i created the JSON "string" with arrayToJSON i went down each line of the output fopund the "offending lines" and did some bittwiddling as below:- on mouseUp put AbsolutePathFromStack("menu.json") into lcFile put ArrayToJSON(gaFoodMenu,,true) into gJSON

Re: New version of lcStackbrowser Released

2016-06-30 Thread Peter Haworth
Sorry, yes there's an "l" missing at the end. The correct url also appears further down the email. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016, 4:33 AM Colin Holgate wrote: > His version has an ‘l’ at the end: > > http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html < > http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html> > > > > On Jun 30,

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Ben Rubinstein
To answer my own question... yes. I've just downloaded 6.7.5 and indeed my test stack now works! Now to see if it has unwanted side effects on my real app... Thanks for shedding this light Roger, it's unlocked the situation for me. Ben On 30/06/2016 15:27, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Hi Roger, T

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Hi Roger, Thanks for your swift reply. Unfortunately this is using 6.7.7 (on Mac, building a standalone to run on Windows). Did you notice a regresssion? TIA, Ben On 30/06/2016 14:50, Roger Eller wrote: UNC was broken in 6.6.4 to 6.7.1 (I reported the bug when my apps began to fail). UNC

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Roger Eller
UNC was broken in 6.6.4 to 6.7.1 (I reported the bug when my apps began to fail). UNC was repaired in 6.7.5 and higher. ~Roger On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > I spoke too soon. > > With the volume mounted, accessing it by drive letter works (so I assume > that this i

Re: Access mounted volumes on Windows from LC?

2016-06-30 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I spoke too soon. With the volume mounted, accessing it by drive letter works (so I assume that this isn't a permissions problem); but using the UNC fails. If I use "answer folder" I get the path with drive letter, e.g. Z:/Docs/Invoices setting the defaultFolder to this path has the e

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner
As discussed on the other side, the new return syntax is return value to set "it" return error to set "the result" On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2, a > development preview of LiveCode

[ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure that you back up your stacks before testing them. Getting the R

RE: LiveCode throwing compile errors for a stack which previously worked

2016-06-30 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Francis, check your preferences on the machine that misbehaves. Look if you have strict compile mode set there for the script editor settings. Cheers, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subs

Re: New version of lcStackbrowser Released

2016-06-30 Thread Colin Holgate
His version has an ‘l’ at the end: http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html > On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:30 AM, ** Clarence P Martin ** > wrote: > > Peter, > The link that was provided: www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.htm is not working. > > Sincerely, >

Re: New version of lcStackbrowser Released

2016-06-30 Thread Lagi Pittas
Just add an "l" to the end http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html On 30 June 2016 at 12:30, ** Clarence P Martin ** wrote: > Peter, > The link that was provided: www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.htm is not > working. > > Sincerely, > > Clarence Martin > Email: chi...@themartinz.com > Cell: 626 69

RE: New version of lcStackbrowser Released

2016-06-30 Thread ** Clarence P Martin **
Peter, The link that was provided: www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.htm is not working. Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Haworth Sent: Wednesday, J

LiveCode throwing compile errors for a stack which previously worked

2016-06-30 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
All Computers Mac OS-X 10.9.5 - LiveCode 5.5 (I know, I'm obsolete, but I'm a poor, retired Computer Engineer who "liveCodes" for FUN !) Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I develop my Livecode stacks on several computers, and copy all my stacks to my laptop. Sometimes I “clean up” a stack which works p

Re: Monte Goulding's day off? ; -) mergJSON - Documented Bug or Feature?

2016-06-30 Thread Lagi Pittas
HI Mark & Monte, "I do wonder here whether the problem is that from LiveCode Script's point of view (and Lagi's use-case, probably others too) that it would be preferable that all non-object/array/string values in the JSON are returned as they are in the input file; ..." The above is exactly

Re: Monte Goulding's day off? ; -) mergJSON - Documented Bug or Feature?

2016-06-30 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-06-30 00:06, Monte Goulding wrote: I’m sorry mergJSON isn’t working out for you. It sounds to me like you actually want to represent your numbers as strings in the JSON. In which case mergJSON does have the facility to force things that look like numbers to be strings and things that look

Re: Controls on mobile apps - am I missing something?

2016-06-30 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 29/06/2016 00:28, Richard Gaskin wrote: People do all sorts of things. Some might even have a 45-degree angled progress bar. Not everything folks might want comes in the tin. :) Yep, but lots of people want horizontal and vertical progress bars, which do come in our tin - they just look..