Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Richmond
On 05/11/15 03:38, stephen barncard wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: The way transients are streaming through Europe um... they are refugees... still are people... -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words _

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Richmond
On 05/11/15 02:42, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Richmond wrote: To be honest I haven't looked in the stable for a while: last time I was there there were 4 horses, 17 cows and an awful lot of rather smelly straw from fouled winter bedding. The way transients are streaming

Re: 'Quit' mystery

2015-11-04 Thread Howard Bornstein
This really helped me out. Thanks Martin! I couldn't get my standalone to quit no matter what. This did the trick. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Martin Koob wrote: > Hi > > It has been a long time since I set this up in my application so I don't > remember exactly the logic as to why I set t

Livecode all around the world

2015-11-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Fri Oct 30, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Maybe LiveCode can grow the most > by moving beyond "English-like" to > embrace "Mandarin-like". :) That would be really extraordinary and could be precisely the kind of push that LiveCode needs to get salience among educators. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread stephen barncard
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > The way transients are streaming through Europe um... they are refugees... still are people... -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@li

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:59 AM, John Dixon wrote: > > I have just had a thought... How would you go about handling accented > chars if you were put in the position of using a mySQL database, belonging > to someone else, that had never seen liveCode before ? > > Sorry, I should have made one othe

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Peter Haworth
Kay's right. You can define the encoding to be used in an SQL database and utilities should observe that encoding by default. I added that in the last release of my SQLiteAdmin program, although I also included preferences to not encode/decode and/or specify an encoding. That's necessary because t

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:59 AM, John Dixon wrote: > I have just had a thought... How would you go about handling accented > chars if you were put in the position of using a mySQL database, belonging > to someone else, that had never seen liveCode before ? > > The same still applies. If any db Ad

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Peter Haworth
I agree, it is strange it's not in the textEncode entry, never noticed that. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > As

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Peter Haworth
It would depend if they had been properly encoding the data in the database or not. If yes, then using textDecode when SELECTing should get you the correct results. If no, you'd need to do the one-time conversion I described (assuming it works of course!). Pete Pete lcSQL Software

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Kay C Lan
As Peter says. This statement appears in the textDecode entry in the Dictionary but for some strange reason not in the textEncode entry. It says it all: It is highly recommended that any time you interface with things outside LiveCode (files, network sockets, processes, etc) that you explicitly te

RE: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread John Dixon
Yes I am using LC7... I should have mentioned that... Peter, thank you for your suggestion, I will try that..:-) I have just had a thought... How would you go about handling accented chars if you were put in the position of using a mySQL database, belonging to someone else, that had never see

Re: mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi John, Sounds like you're using LC7 since I see textDecode in there. I don;t know enough about the URL side of things but I think the issue on the database side is what you are doing when you INSERT or UPDATE the data. It needs to be textEncoded at that point. After that, you need to textDecod

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Richmond wrote: > > To be honest I haven't looked in the stable for a while: last time I was > there there were 4 horses, 17 cows and an awful lot of rather smelly > straw from fouled winter bedding. > > The way transients are streaming through Europe at the moment

mySQL and accented chars revisited

2015-11-04 Thread John Dixon
In a mySQL database I have a name... Bordeaux-Bègles I call it from the database into a liveCode stack and it comes out as ... Bordeaux-BÈgles from within a card script :- put "http://www..com/rugbyapp/rugby.lc?A=fixtures&thediv="; & theLeague into theURL put URL theURL into temp

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Er... wait... there's a stable 7.1.1 release? > If there is, is there somewhere we can download? :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@list

Re: QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Roger Eller
Pass the native fields, please. Try some android sauce. It's like apple sauce, but better for you. ;) Dessert anyone? There's Raspberry Pi. ~Roger On Nov 4, 2015 3:39 PM, "Kevin Miller" wrote: > Indeed, that is a big part of the point of all this work on the widget > architecture. Multimedi

Re: QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Kevin Miller
Good question. We do have an answer. We¹ll think through carefully how best to set expectations here and post a more detailed response on this in the morning. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps On 04/11/2015 20:

Re: QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kevin Miller wrote: Indeed, that is a big part of the point of all this work on the widget architecture. Multimedia will of course be a widget and a lot of the groundwork is now there with the work done for the browser. We can also do other things very quickly now, like wrap the existing mobile

Re: QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Kevin Miller
Indeed, that is a big part of the point of all this work on the widget architecture. Multimedia will of course be a widget and a lot of the groundwork is now there with the work done for the browser. We can also do other things very quickly now, like wrap the existing mobile controls you create usi

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Richmond
On 04/11/15 19:06, Mark Wieder wrote: On 11/04/2015 06:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Agreed. The v7.1.1 Stable release should not be altered. Er... wait... there's a stable 7.1.1 release? To be honest I haven't looked in the stable for a while: last time I was there there were 4 horses, 17

What is "Open Language"?

2015-11-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Bernard, on Tue Nov 3, Bernard Devlin wrote: > I believe that the Hypertalk 2.2 Reference book > (Jeanne de Voto et. al) has a BNF diagram of > the language at the end. I could be mistaken, > as my copy of the book has been in storage for > a number of years. But if I remember correctly, > t

Re: QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > A new player-like control wouldn't need editable text, so if it's within > the scope of what Builder can do today perhaps it's not only a good use > case for showing off Builder but also knocks one of the most desirable > Kickstarter goal

Re: QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Richard, > Am 04.11.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Richard Gaskin : > > I came across this article yesterday about QT updating issues and its > security implications, which reminded me of the recent discussion about this > on the list: >

QT/Win vulnerability and strutting Builder's stuff

2015-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
I came across this article yesterday about QT updating issues and its security implications, which reminded me of the recent discussion about this on the list:

LC 8.0 dp8... cannot copy

2015-11-04 Thread John Dixon
Just tried to run a stack under LC 8 Everything is fine under LC7.1, there are a couple of folders and a couple of files in the 'copy files' pane... Everything loads as it should.. No problem Under LC 8 I get an error message... Cannot copy /Users/johndixon/Desktop/rugby/otherlogos/cal.png Cli

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
On 11/04/2015 06:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Agreed. The v7.1.1 Stable release should not be altered. Clearly it should go in v7.2. LOL -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
On 11/04/2015 06:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Agreed. The v7.1.1 Stable release should not be altered. Er... wait... there's a stable 7.1.1 release? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 2015-11-03 21:47, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: >> >>> *SSL Support for PostgreSQL Connections* >> >> Ooooh. >> >> Is this one going to back-port into 7? > > At the moment, there are no plans for a backport. It's probably not >

Re: [ANN] DropboxAPI_2_tester

2015-11-04 Thread gmcrev
Sorry Michael. Typos. should read Step 3: Get User Account ID from https://dropbox.github.io/dropbox-api-v2-explorer/#get_current_account 1. Paste in Access Token from Step 2 2. Click Submit Call 3. Copy the value of the account_id from the Response (without the quotes) 4. Paste it in the UserAcc

Re: [ANN] DropboxAPI_2_tester

2015-11-04 Thread Michael Doub
Thanks Gerard. I have been trying to work thru the steps within you getting started page. I am stuck on step 3 where you say "Click Submit Call". Can you clarify that a bit? I don't see anything that looks like a submit call button. Regards, Mike On 11/4/15 6:26 AM, gmcrev wrote:

[ANN] DropboxAPI_2_tester

2015-11-04 Thread gmcrev
I have uploaded DropboxAPI_2_tester.livecode to RevOnline: http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/794/DropboxAPI_2_tester This demonstrates all the calls in v2 of the Dropbox API. It uses the FASTJSON v0.4.1 library of Bob Hall. Thanks Bob for this work. https://github.com/bhall2001/fastjson Gugl

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-11-04 09:20, Malte Brill wrote: Is it still an external? If so, we could try at our own risk if it would work with 7. As 8 is still a bit down the road this might come in handy… It is 'just' the dbpostgres driver which has changed - so, yes, you are more than welcome to try that. Howev

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Malte Brill
> At the moment, there are no plans for a backport. It's probably not a good > idea anyway -- adding new features to a "stable" release series is a frequent > cause of regressions and unhappy users. Is it still an external? If so, we could try at our own risk if it would work with 7. As 8 is st

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

2015-11-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-11-03 21:47, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: *SSL Support for PostgreSQL Connections* Ooooh. Is this one going to back-port into 7? At the moment, there are no plans for a backport. It's probably not a good idea anyway -- adding new features