Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

On 2/4/2015 11:54 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I've never built an app that large, for something like that I usually use the splash method so that I can have modules. Oh, and you're not selling to lawyers :) True, but I'm not sure that affec

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I've never built an app that large, for something like that I usually use > the splash method so that I can have modules. > Oh, and you're not selling to lawyers :) Once the program is established, changes will actually happen more in the

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I'm still thinking the slowdown is due to having "search for required > inclusions" selected in the standalone settings. The search would have to > scan and parse at least 30,000+ lines just given the specs that were > listed. Richard (the H

Re: encrypt storage

Bob- Wednesday, February 4, 2015, 1:40:15 PM, you wrote: > ...an SQL server that I will access through the Internet? Hint... don't do that. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The par

Re: encrypt storage

Need more details. What are you encrypting? What is the hash of? Need some idea of what you are attempting to do to answer your question. Kee Nethery > On Feb 4, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > > Hi all. > > I’m using encrypt/decrypt with aes128 cipher. Am I going to need to encode

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/4/2015 6:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> That doesn't seem big enough to need 15 minutes to scan the objects. >> >> Anyone else seen anything like this? > > I've never built an app that large, for something like that I usually > use the splash method so that I can ha

Re: removing accumulated garbage fro stacks?

Not sure what might cause that. I would create a brand new stack and put the script in it, using the name of your mainstack and its substacks property to get the stack names for the check. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

On 2/4/2015 6:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: That doesn't seem big enough to need 15 minutes to scan the objects. Anyone else seen anything like this? I've never built an app that large, for something like that I usually use the splash method so that I can have modules. I'm still thinking th

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

I have a project where there was a main stack with some subs stacks, and the whole size was 100 MB. Probably 4000 cards + 200 images. It was taken maybe 15+ minutes to build. I took out the large sub stacks and keep them separate in a data folder. Now it takes seconds to build a launcher stack t

Re: removing accumulated garbage fro stacks?

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > As mentioned in that thread, there's an undocumented stack property > revUnplacedGroupIDs. You'll need a simple script to go through your > stack/substacks and check that property. > I managed to miss that splinter of the thread :( Tried

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

That doesn't seem big enough to need 15 minutes to scan the objects. Anyone else seen anything like this? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa.

Re: removing accumulated garbage fro stacks?

As mentioned in that thread, there's an undocumented stack property revUnplacedGroupIDs. You'll need a simple script to go through your stack/substacks and check that property. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteA

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > I just saw livecode take 15 minutes building a standalone (quadcore > > i5,16gb)... > > That's a very long time. > > indeed :) I think it was something like 3-5 min with 5.5, but it probably wasn't even that long Can you give us some e

Question re project organization

Folks: I’d like some advice on project organization as I take my app to the next step. I am creating a standalone that will work on Mac and Windows, possibly future modification to mobile, but not for now. I have a basic app where the use can access information about the Earth, and want to the

Re: Troubles with inequality

It's obscure, yes, though the dictionary has this: "Important! Changing the numberFormat does not automatically change the format of a number that's already in a container. It affects numbers only when they are calculated and then displayed or used as strings. Otherwise, the number retains its

removing accumulated garbage fro stacks?

There was a recent discussion about accumulated unplaced images and groups. But how are these found? How does one go hunting for these? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please v

Re: explicitvariables

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Jean-Jacques Wagner wrote: > The "Strict Compilation Mode" option in Preferences was set (for some > reason( > That's a good thing. I don't even like variable names not being case-sensitive . . . Also, you will find that you get good and bad days with this bug;

Re: Troubles with inequality

Thanks Jacque, a gold mine of information as usual. But it’s pretty obscure, isn’t it? All this started for me because I wanted to test if two numbers were equal, knowing that they probably weren’t exactly equal to the last decimal place but nevertheless were ‘engineering equal’ as it were - say

Which version

Hey, i'm sending a laptop to a friend in another state, and am going to be installing a version of LC community for them to play with. The laptop is a mac core 2 duo (white.) I'm trying to decide WHICH version to send. For reliability and speed, i'm leaning towards a NON 7+ version. For feature

Re: Troubles with inequality

On 2/4/2015 3:01 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: So really, if I want an uncomplicated string of characters derived from a number via setting the numberFormat and then doing a calculation, how do I get it? You can turn it into a string by putting empty after it: put 1.5 into tVar -- number se

Re: Troubles with inequality

On 2/4/2015 3:01 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: Fascinating! Up to this moment, it seemed to me that the **appearance** of a number in a variable or more particularly in a field, **is** the number - where is the space where the engine can put an extended value? The number retains its full value as lo

Re: How to detect that user closed window

On 2/4/2015 4:22 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Did anyone ever find a workaround for detecting that the user clicked the Close Window control, so I can intercept it and save the stack so Livecode does not ask? I suppose I could save the damn stack overtime I do anything in any handler, but GEEZE. Doe

How to detect that user closed window

Hi all. Did anyone ever find a workaround for detecting that the user clicked the Close Window control, so I can intercept it and save the stack so Livecode does not ask? I suppose I could save the damn stack overtime I do anything in any handler, but GEEZE. Bob S

encrypt storage

Hi all. I’m using encrypt/decrypt with aes128 cipher. Am I going to need to encode the hash before storing it on an SQL server that I will access through the Internet? Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit th

Re: Troubles with inequality

Yes, my example wasn’t good. Interestingly, round(1.49) returns 1 and round (1.49) returns 2. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscrip

Re: Troubles with inequality

Fascinating! Up to this moment, it seemed to me that the **appearance** of a number in a variable or more particularly in a field, **is** the number - where is the space where the engine can put an extended value? Is there something hidden in the object, perhaps in word 2? I mean, I have always

[gig] need help with web video

Paolo: It works on Windows. Haven’t tested in on Mac, again, because I just used the older implementation on Mac. I’ll test. An existing problem, tho is the fact that Apple won’t accept it in the store because the bundle is broken, according the App Wrapper 3. Bill William A. Prothero http://e

Re: Troubles with inequality

Colin: But: I don’t see this. Say your target accuracy is six figures. You would us: put round(myNum1,6) into num1 put round(myNum2,6) into num2 So, for example, 3.1234569 would round to 3.123457 3.1234563 would round to 3.123456, which would be unequal, but 3.1234567 would round up to 3.123457 an

Re: gratuitous inclusion of oracle in 7.0.2-RC2

Dr. Hawkins wrote: > I just saw livecode take 15 minutes building a standalone (quadcore > i5,16gb)... That's a very long time. Can you give us some estimates (or actual numbers) for: - Number of objects - Number of lines of code - Total stack file size -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems

Pointer: Nice article. Not too techie.

Hi, https://medium.com/@karan/the-7-rules-for-writing-software-that-wont-die-when-you-do-38ef0a925650 Article above seems like a nice read. Perhaps a good launch pad for a tutorial or three. -- Ta. Mark Rauterkus mark.rauter...@gmail.com PPS Summer Dreamers' Swim and Water Polo Camp Hea

Re: Testing iOS app on non-local devices

Thanks, Matthias. On 2/4/15 9:46 AM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: Hi Richard, yes, it is still mandatory to have the UDIDs. You have add those to your dev account. Btw.: A nice tool for submitting iOS Apps to the test devices is Airlaunch from Jacqueline Landman Gay. A nice review of tha

Re: Mobile cloud storage

FYI, I uncovered another issue with phxDropboxLib, but it doesn't affect mobile, and I haven't had time to competely chase it down and patch it, either. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:06 AM, wrote: > Sure, I would be happy to share when the fog lifts. :-) > > Original Message > From: Mike Bonner >

Re: Troubles with inequality

Colin. That would be a great feature. But trunc() takes no second param. I will ask for one, though. Craig -Original Message- From: Colin Holgate To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:56 am Subject: Re: Troubles with inequality Round has a problem in that rounding co

Re: Troubles with inequality

Round has a problem in that rounding could change the nature of something. For example, you want to see if 1.9995 is similar to 1.9994, but you end up checking 1.9 against 2.0. One nice addition would be to give Trunk the same second parameter that Round has. Then you would keep the nature of th

Re: Troubles with inequality

Graham. You might consider using the "round" function, with its precision set to whatever decimal value you wish, likely that value that you used to consider setting the numberformat. This will do almost the same thing, and trunc at that level, which is what I believe you thought the numberfor

Re: Precision and 'abs'

Why not try the round function to limit the number of digits being compared? Put round(myNum,nDigits) - round(num2,nDigits)=theDiff Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:17 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > Graham > > I think that it is a documentation error. As fa

Re: Mobile cloud storage

Sure, I would be happy to share when the fog lifts. :-)   Original Message   From: Mike Bonner Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 11:03 AM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Mobile cloud storage Michael D., IF you DO get to where you understand the authentication st

Re: Mobile cloud storage

Michael D., IF you DO get to where you understand the authentication stuff, could you share your understanding? I struggle with the same area of knowledge, and you're right. Everything is written as if its already understood, and you just need a few specifics for the service rather than an actual

Re: Troubles with inequality

The numberformat only affect the appearance of the number, not its value. If you want to compare them based on the appearance characters, you can compare them as strings instead of numbers. Try this: on mouseUp put 1.234567 into temp put 1.2345678 into aa set the numberFormat to "0.###"

Re: Mobile cloud storage

And some time agao Maarten Koopmans created an iCloud external called miCloud. Regards, Matthias > Am 04.02.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Michael Doub : > > Richard, > > The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. > > I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with s

Troubles with inequality

Using LC 7.0.2-rc-2, I have two numbers, each in its own variable ('temp' and 'aa' below) that may differ at say the eleventh decimal place but are otherwise identical. This bit of code: set the numberformat to "0.##" -- to get 6 dec place precision just for the comparison put temp*1 in

Re: Mobile cloud storage

Richard, The only one that I am aware of is phxDropboxLib for Dropbox. I would not mind taking on this project if I could team up with someone for help understanding the authorization parts of each. I still have not gotten my head wrapped around how this is supposed to work and all of the A

Re: Testing iOS app on non-local devices

Hi Richard, yes, it is still mandatory to have the UDIDs. You have add those to your dev account. Btw.: A nice tool for submitting iOS Apps to the test devices is Airlaunch from Jacqueline Landman Gay. A nice review of that tool can be found here http://newsletters.livecode.com/february/issue

Clear out

How do I go about removing entries from the propdown profile menu in standalone settings ? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage y

Testing iOS app on non-local devices

I know Apple makes TestFlight available for testing a pre-release app on non-local devices. What options are available for testing at much earlier stages of development? In other words, If I have an app running on my local iPhone, how can I test this on iPhones and iPads of friends? I know I di

Re: explicitvariables

Hi, Many thanks for your reply, I got it, but what for a nightmare. The "Strict Compilation Mode" option in Preferences was set (for some reason) 1) Then I got to the point, that I could not compile anymore my stacks, my libraries run corrupt. on Handlerx put 2 into ßh-- thru

Re: Precision and 'abs'

Graham I think that it is a documentation error. As far as I know, LiveCode uses binary floating point numbers when performing arithmetic. Not all non-whole decimal numbers cannot be accurate represented in binary floating point numbers. I cannot see how just comparing the absolute value of th

Precision and 'abs'

I’m having some trouble comparing numbers with lots of decimal places - numbers that ought to be equal are slightly unequal. In the LC Dictionary entry for ‘numberFormat’ there’s a warning about this, and a suggested solution: > > Note: Since LiveCode does not use decimal numbers for its intern