Re: (Arbitrarily) Long-Division Script

FYI, here's my original bignum multiplier: function bigTimes X,Y if char 1 of X is "-" then put "-" into leadChar delete char 1 of X end if if char 1 of Y is "-" then if leadChar is "-" then put empty into leadChar else put "-" into leadChar delete char 1 of Y

Re: Hmmm...

In the early days of multimedia it helped if you were Bill, Dan, or Bob. You gave some examples for Bill and Dan (and there’s Dan Winkler). On the Bob side there was Bob Stein and Bob Abel. I met those two for the first time together, and to save confusion we called Bob Stein ‘Bob’ and Bob Abel

Re: (Arbitrarily) Long-Division Script

I've created similar routines in the past. Are you saying you do or don't want to allow for arbitrarily-large divisors? a pseudo-code algo for divisors that LC can handle: 1. remove the decimal points, remembering where they were 2. get the length of the divisor 3. grab that many characters from

Re: Hmmm...

Bill Atkinson himself said that the core of HC had to be constrained to (paraphrased) "fit within the 1 MByte memory limit", basically, of a Mac Plus. Craig -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 6:35 pm Subject: Re: Hmmm... Agreed, bu

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

I think I have just confirmed Mark’s conjecture about LC7 - I created a test stack on the Mac in LC7, put the html ‘less than or equal to’ character into a field there, saved it, reopened in LC7 and it still looked OK. So we can leave that particular problem behind us, at least once I’ve double-

Re: Hmmm...

Agreed, but Supercard suffered from early instability and general interface kludginess. I was a Supercard guy for a long time, but got sidetracked with other things. Still, I was stifled by the same issue I had with Hypercard: I wanted to create databases of many thousands of records, and there

Re: Hmmm...

Craig wrote: > I always thought it odd that Supercard was developed by Bill > Appleton, HC being developed by Bill Atkinson. They even looked > alike, tall and lanky. Cousins? Another parallel oddity: the first HyperCard book was written by Danny Goodman, and the first SuperCard book was writt

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Okay, so to follow through with this, I first took a screen shot of a bullet character, opened it in Preview, erased the white space (making it transparent) and saving it as bullet.png. Next I imported the bullet as an image, and set the source of the imported image to the file “bullet.png” (s

Re: Hmmm...

I always thought it odd that Supercard was developed by Bill Appleton, HC being developed by Bill Atkinson. They even looked alike, tall and lanky. Cousins? Craig -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 5:51 pm Subject: Re: Hmmm... On

Re: Hmmm...

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Richmond wrote: > Did anyone recreate HyperCard and then improve it once HyperCard was > killed off? > > And the answer is 'Yes' several times over: many being short-lived things > (SERF ???), and > many restricted to only 1 or 2 platforms (ToolBook, SuperCard), >

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Cool thanks! > On Oct 31, 2014, at 13:47 , Peter Haworth wrote: > > You can - the imageSource > > Pete > lcSQL Software > Home of lcStackBrowser and > SQLiteAdmin > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014

Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

The hallmark of any good saying. :-) On Oct 31, 2014, at 13:11 , Richmond mailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com>> wrote: I always discriminate when the facts dictate. (My new favorite saying) ;-) Bob It sounds good, but I'm not sure what it means. Richmond. _

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

I ran across the same problem with the ellipsis character. I ended up doing this: if the platform is "MacOS" then put ISOToMac(numToChar(133)) into tEllipsis else put numToChar(133) into tEllipsis end if Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

You can - the imageSource Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Which brings up a point that seems to be the 800

Re: Hmmm...

I wonder about what that RunRevKev person wrote. I mean, he doesn’t even know the name of the company! > On Oct 31, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > Anyone else stumble across this recent discussion looking for something akin > to "The HyperCard Legacy"? > >

Re: Hmmm...

On 31/10/14 22:03, Richard Gaskin wrote: Anyone else stumble across this recent discussion looking for something akin to "The HyperCard Legacy"? Nice to see some LiveCode comments there. It seems to me that that discussion lacks focus. Surely

Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

On 31/10/14 21:37, Bob Sneidar wrote: I always discriminate when the facts dictate. (My new favorite saying) ;-) Bob It sounds good, but I'm not sure what it means. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Hmmm...

Anyone else stumble across this recent discussion looking for something akin to "The HyperCard Legacy"? Nice to see some LiveCode comments there. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, an

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Paul, This won't work because isoToMac/macToIso convert from MacRoman to Latin-1 or back, while Latin-1 simply doesn't have that char. You can't convert something if it doesn't exist. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://econo

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Sure, but if you have to correct a field using isoToMac and macToIso every time your stack opens, you might as well just replace the ASCII 16 value with ≤ in the HTML text of the field. I think Graham's point is that this shouldn't be necessary and I believe in 7 it should indeed no longer be n

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Which brings up a point that seems to be the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Bulleted lists, Special characters, seems like there ought to be a way to set the Icon of a character to something. Problem solved. But… it only works with stacks, apps and buttons. Bob S On Oct 31, 2014, at 12:03

formattedHeight of a button

There seems to be a problem with the formattedHeight property of a button. I'm assigning an icon to the button and leaving the showName property to true. By doing that, I can make the button high enough so that the button name shows under the icon. The formattedwidth property seems to work fine

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

I believe what you have encountered is an *actual*, albeit extremely rare, “Undocumented Feature”. Bob S On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:01 , Graham Samuel mailto:livf...@mac.com>> wrote: A possible (but not very probably IMHO) cause of the problem is that ‘le’ and ‘ge’ are not in the LC dictionary a

Re: Two features I don't understand

That settles it. Richard Gaskin is an Alien Android!! Bob S On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:40 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: That said, I tend to be somewhat obsessive about performance because I see every nanosecond saved as a penny in a bank account; over time I can sav

Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

I always discriminate when the facts dictate. (My new favorite saying) ;-) Bob On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:01 , Richmond mailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com>> wrote: I wonder if what you have written isn't a tad discriminatory? http://testmy.net/country/bw Botswana Average Download Speed: 876 Kbp

Re: Valentina db

I hesitated when adding that bit, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that was the case. As you say, it matters not. Bob S On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:02 , Peter Haworth mailto:p...@lcsql.com>> wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Bob Sneidar mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>> wrote: s

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

On 10/31/2014 1:01 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: > These are represented on the regular Mac keyboard as option-comma and > option-period, but these codes are not the same on the PC. Hence my need to > use html, since these characters are part of the standard html repertoire. See the isoToMac and mac

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

On 10/31/2014, 1:04 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: Not to flog this to death, but what you did works for me too - you just set the htmlText of a field using a version of LC running on Windows. What didn’t work for me was setting the htmlText of the field using a Mac version of LC, saving the stack and

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Re: Two features I don't understand

Always valuable to read your words here, Fraser. Meeting you was one of the key highlights for me at the conference. You wrote: > Internally, the field is structured somewhat like this(*): > > - Field >- Paragraph 1 >- Run 1 >- Run 2 >- Paragraph 2 > > and the styledTex

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Hi Graham, Now I see it too. Even if I set the unicodeText of a field to numToChar(8804), the character appears as something completely different on Windows. In pre-7 versions of LiveCode, this might be acceptable, because the text of a field is saved as MacRoman or Latin. However, in 7, it

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Hi Mark Not to flog this to death, but what you did works for me too - you just set the htmlText of a field using a version of LC running on Windows. What didn’t work for me was setting the htmlText of the field using a Mac version of LC, saving the stack and then opening it on a PC with a PC v

Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

On 31/10/14 17:53, Bob Sneidar wrote: Probably too late to talk about how to package your data, which is likely the reason it is so big. I suspect it contains a lot of images or other kinds of media. You might consider however, packaging your media separately from the application itself, then

Strictness in LC7

I have an app some of whose coding is quite old. I find that LC7 no longer tolerates sloppy code in the way earlier versions did. For example set the points of grc "MyLine" to 31,300,639,300 worked in earlier versions including all the 6.x ones I've tried (it drew a horizontal line), but now

Re: Valentina db

Hi Bob, Thanks for the detailed info. I'll look into that. Larry - Original Message - From: "Bob Sneidar" To: "How to use LiveCode" Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Valentina db Hi Larry. The simplest SQL database to my mind is sqLite. You can create a database

Re: Two features I don't understand

Alex Tweedly wrote: On 31/10/2014 04:04, Richard Gaskin wrote: What I find most remarkable is the way your benchmark makes the value of this ID caching seem rather trivial. ... It is a trivial example - but the speed-up of 50X seems significant. In relative terms it certainly seems so, but i

Re: Two features I don't understand

On 30 Oct 2014, at 18:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > 2. StyledText array > Pages 16-18 of the v5.5.4 Release Notes: > > > Anyone here use this? Is it faster than doing equivalent operations on > htmlText? While the style

Re: Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

I missed it but apparently there's something in the 7.0 release notes about it. It's a new property of the player control. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Fri,

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Hi Graham, Apparently, I misread the subject header of your e-mail. So, you have trouble with the less-than-or-equal-to and the greater-than-or-equal-to characters. BTW I think that these characters are in the MacRoman character set but not in the Latin-1 character set, which means that you

Re: Valentina db

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > sqLite is very forgiving when it comes to type constraints. This is > because the data is literally stored as text no matter what type the column > is. Where mySQL might throw an error for storing the wrong type of data, > sqLite will store wh

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Thanks Mark for the reply. No, ‘lt' is less than and ‘gt' is greater than: these symbols are readily available on both the Mac and PC character sets, so if the objective is simply to display the correct glyph, it doesn’t matter if one shows them as html or just a simple character. My issue is w

Re: Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

Thanks Pete - so Mark will certainly have to modify his button stuff. Meanwhile I guess I can cheat by changing ‘status’ to ‘status1’ throughout the code for these objects. It will be interesting to find out what RunRev is using this word for - kind of sounds like it should be reserved, doesn’t

Re: Two features I don't understand

Dr. Hawkins wrote: > so does styledText even have a purpose any more? Should it > be treated as deprecated? It seems it serves a very different purpose than htmlText. It's a new addition and folks find it useful, so I wouldn't expect it to be deprecated. Trevor DeVore wroteL > I use styled

Re: Two features I don't understand

On 31/10/2014 04:04, Richard Gaskin wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: H - I said this once before :-) :-) My apologies for the inconvenience. I'd either missed it before or completely forgot about it, but the latter seems unlikely given how remarkable the post was: Oh Richard - I even thre

Re: RELEASE 6.7.1-rc-1

This may be the same issue as with Datagrids because if you have a white text with a blue background, the standard OS X method when highlighting a row in a table, the white does not stand out well. I think this is another bug (may not be bug) related to the way LC presents text, not sure? It c

AW: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

Hi Colin, I just don't have the specs of my videos on hand. But they are pretty small and highly compressed. The thing is that they are just 19000 videos (each only some seconds) in my app :) Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.c

Re: RELEASE 6.7.1-rc-1

Also, I think the text when you highlight the button should be bold? Not sure on this because in LC it certainly looks non antialiased? All the best Terry > On 31 Oct 2014, at 15:12, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > 13842 Yosemite UI: the text colour of highlighted buttons should be white __

Re: RELEASE 6.7.1-rc-1

Yes but the text is offset towards the bottom of the tab. How do I correct this in my tabs? All the best Terry > On 31 Oct 2014, at 15:12, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > 13842 Yosemite UI: the text colour of highlighted buttons should be white ___ use-liveco

Re: Expanding List

Looks like a job for Metadata. You can store your additional data invisibly within each line of your field containing the list. Then as someone else pointed out, just get the line number for the line clicked and retrieve that line's metadata. Now you can insert that into your field under the origin

Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

I would just do a single zip, assuming the user will need all the files at some point. 8GB seems very big, what data rate and codec are you using for the videos? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscr

AW: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

Hi Bob, thank goodness, I am not selling to Botswana :) yes, 99% of the app are the video files. I even don't need any pw protection or license key. I just want to give users, who don't have any more a DVD drive (iMac, Netbooks), a chance to download the image of the DVD. So, I will make a 8GB z

Re: Two features I don't understand

The improved field control of LC 5.4 and 6.0 and up has been extremely useful to me. I use StyledText Array in much the same way as Trevor -- applying format changes. And metadata attached to field chunks is a great feature that's very useful for educational content creators. Overall, the field c

Re: Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

The one and only LC convention I attended many years ago addressed naming methods in one of their sessions. The idea was to always use some kind of prefix that no one else would ever use in their libraries, and that would never conflict with any reserved words that might crop up in the future. U

Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

Probably too late to talk about how to package your data, which is likely the reason it is so big. I suspect it contains a lot of images or other kinds of media. You might consider however, packaging your media separately from the application itself, then have the app on launch begin to sync t

Re: Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Peter Haworth wrote: > > Late to this one but there is indeed a new property named "status" > > which is why your script now fails. Unfortunately, can't tell what > > it's used for since there's no dictionary entry for it. About to > > file

OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

Hello, I have a LC application, which has a total size of about 8GB (including a bunch of videos). Usually it is distributed via DVD-DL. If I would like to serve it as a download on my webserver, how should I package it? Should I just create a single 8GB zip file, or should I split it in several

Re: Two features I don't understand

My guess would be data grids and anything using behaviors. Bob S On Oct 30, 2014, at 21:04 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: What I find most remarkable is the way your benchmark makes the value of this ID caching seem rather trivial. I trust this was a one-liner, a

RELEASE 7.0.1-rc-1

Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0.1-rc-1. *Warning:* this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. *Release Contents* This release contains 38 bugfixes: 13850 ask file and ask folder default to wrong folder 13848 Popup

Re: livecode versions what do the various suffix mean? DP/RC/GM

You know, the reason why I keep responding to questions that have already been answered by other people, is because the first post shows up as it’s own email, which I reply to, and then all the replies show up in other threads, sometimes 2 or 3 or more. I use Apple Mail, and I didn’t used to hav

Re: livecode versions what do the various suffix mean? DP/RC/GM

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RELEASE 6.7.1-rc-1

Dear list members, We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 6.7.1-rc-1. *Warning:* this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. *Release Contents* This release contains 9 bugfixes: 13848 Menu items from popup menu improperly removed 13847 Command

Re: Valentina db

Hi Larry. The simplest SQL database to my mind is sqLite. You can create a database by simply providing a path name and opening it using the LC built in database functions. Once the file is created, you can download the Firefox SQLite Manager plugin, open the database and begin to add tables a

Re: HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

Hi Graham, I think that should be lt and gt. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book "Pr

Re: Two features I don't understand

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Rightly so, according to the inventor of the LiveCode engine: Dr. Raney > once explained to me that the purpose of htmlText is to provide an > easily-manipulatable way to faithfully reproduce the entire contents and > styles within a fie

Re: Two features I don't understand

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > If I could remember well enough how to find things on Nabble or Gmane, I'd > just point to the original thread - but since I can't and am in a hurry - > here's a message I sent to this list on 12/05/2013. There are *very* few sites who can

AW: AW: Unicode: LC 7.0 - PHP - MySQL?

Thank you for your explanations Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Martin Baxter > Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Oktober 2014 13:46 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: AW: Unicode: LC 7.0 - PHP - MySQL? > > T

HTML representation of 'less than or equal to' - not cross-platform?

I’ve got a little field with a single “less than or equal to” character in it. The character got there from executing set the htmlText of fld “myField” to ≤ from the message box while programming in the IDE (LC 6.6.5) This works fine on a Mac, but I just noticed that it doesn’t work on a PC. W

Re: Two features I don't understand

I am sorry to report that the pageranges property of fields is still broken in 7.0. Create a field and place this in a button: on mouseUp put empty into fld 1 set the height of fld 1 to 60 repeat with i = 1 to 10 put i & cr after fld 1 end repeat set the spaceabove line 2

Re: AW: Unicode: LC 7.0 - PHP - MySQL?

Tiemo, Not sure what your database is collated as now as I thought you said it was ascii_general_ci in your original post. But the collation of the database columns affects sorting, indexing and so-on. I don't think it actually stops you storing unexpected characters. Anyway, I believe that for s

Re: Two features I don't understand

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > 2. StyledText array > Pages 16-18 of the v5.5.4 Release Notes: > > > Anyone here use this? Is it faster than doing equivalent operations on > htmlText? While the sty

Re: Two features I don't understand

Regarding id caching, I had an idea that one might be able to use it to emulate the performance gain of a 'repeat for each...' style structure on controls. Referencing a control by number or name will iterate through the controls of the card until it gets to the specified one. Thus a loop of the f

AW: Unicode: LC 7.0 - PHP - MySQL?

Hello Martin, thank you for your helpful informations, though I am a little puzzeled, probably because I am missing something. What I don't understand is that I currently get all of my German Umlaute properly from LC via PHP into my UTF-8 MySQL db, though the columns in my table are set to ascii_ge

Re: Unicode: LC 7.0 - PHP - MySQL?

A little additional info from me. If your database will only ever contain ascii characters, then ascii_general, utf-8 and latin1_swedish will all work fine because the ascii characters are the same in all of them. I would expect problems though if mixing these up and subsequently attempting to in

Scripter's Scrapbook and LC7

There is a boolean evaluation bug in LC7 that throws a script error when you close your Scrapbook. This has now been reported. It does not seem to affect LC6. In the expectation of a fix in the next release, it will be easier to get your Scrapbook fixed than go through the process of an unnecessar

AW: QT replacement on Windows?

Hi Martin, thank you for the roadmap site. So there still is hope Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Martin Koob > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014 16:06 > An: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com > Betref