HTML5 Campaign

2014-07-20 Thread Glen Bojsza
Maybe I misunderstanding the HTML5 Campaign...? The way I interpret the campaign is if the $395,000 goal is not met then the HTML5 will still be delivered and the supporters will receive their pledge. Those who did not pledge can purchase the HTML5 license from the store once it becomes availabl

iOS: Scrolling a native scroller via script problem

2014-07-20 Thread Gerry
I have a data grid that I'm scrolling in iOS using a native scroller. I use this card script to scroll the data grid: on scrollerDidScroll OffsetX, OffsetY if iphoneControlTarget() = "listScroller" then set the vScroll of group "scroller" to OffsetY end if end scrollerDidScroll However

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Miller
This is a key point. HTML5 will come hot on the heels of Open Language and can be considered in that context. In terms of monetization, web apps can be used for many purposes, particularly with a tool like LiveCode that will allow the provision of very rich functionality. There are enough places t

Multiple keyDowns

2014-07-20 Thread Richmond
I had some fun: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21097&p=107809#p107809 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > It is only remotely related to the issue that is of my concern, but it was > suggested that one may connect to a server, such as PHP or OnRev, > specifically to keep essential parts of the code locked an

Re: From my spam box:

2014-07-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Marian- Sunday, July 20, 2014, 1:58:56 AM, you wrote: > I'm picturing this now--and the picture is hilarious! :-) Oh, I *do* wish I could unthink that now. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Richmond
On 20/07/14 18:57, J. Landman Gay wrote: The type of license you would buy is not as relevant right now as whether you decide to support the campaign in the first place. If there is no funding for the project, no one will need to decide anything about it. When it does become time to make that

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
The type of license you would buy is not as relevant right now as whether you decide to support the campaign in the first place. If there is no funding for the project, no one will need to decide anything about it. When it does become time to make that decision, I would like to think that any

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Richmond
On 20/07/14 17:07, Kevin Miller wrote: License agreements are not irrelevant. We do not have a single reason for commercial as it stands by any means. Most users are honest and are willing to pay for software providing doing so is fair, easy and convenient. In commercial desktop/mobile we have p

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Miller
License agreements are not irrelevant. We do not have a single reason for commercial as it stands by any means. Most users are honest and are willing to pay for software providing doing so is fair, easy and convenient. In commercial desktop/mobile we have password protection that is not present in

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Richmond
Maybe I'm naive, but: as far as I understand things, the main difference [and I am not even going to touch on legal issues here as everybody well knows that what is hackable, legal or illegal, gets hacked sooner or later] between the Commercial and Community editions of Livecode is that with th

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Miller
That's right for the server. However in the case of an HTML5 app it is not correct. It is going to be downloaded and executed on the client. That classifies as having distributed it in compiled form. If you do that, you immediately have to give away the full source under GPL to every visitor to you

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Mark Schonewille
I don't agree, Peter. At least, not at this stage. If one makes a server-based app using PHP, one may keep the essential parts locked away, unreachable for prying eyes. While obfuscated JavaScript may be extremely difficult to unravel, one can still get a hold of the complete source code. A com

Re: From my spam box:

2014-07-20 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:40 AM, Richmond wrote: > _F-I-T--_I N-T O..--_Y O..U_R--..B..I-K_I..N-I---_E-A..S-I_L Y_- A-G..A..I-N, > Richmondmathewson > > I couldn't resist posting this. > > Sorry! You *should* be sorry.:-) -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pm

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Miller
You¹ll always have a choice how much code to put on the server side and in the client. Our HTML5 output operates on your stack within the client browser, like a standalone does now. However you can still connect to a web service or LC server in the same way you do today. Keeping key portions of cod

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread jbv
Hi list, I've been following this thread and was wondering : please correct me if I'm mistaken, but we'll still be in a client/server configuration, so keeping the important code server-side could be a way to avoid people hacking/stealing your app... Sure, dealing with client/server requests will r

Re: Matching funding

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Miller
Yes, there is a substantial chunk coming from multiple government bodies and some from other sources. The matching funding is very, very significant for us in that it extends our original Kickstarter runway. The grants get spent on development and do not impose any repayment burden on us in the f

Re: Commercial Indy License for HTML5

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Miller
Right, its not exactly going to be practical to take it apart. As we develop this we¹ll be looking at obfuscation to make it as hard as possible. Nor would you have any right to use the code or redistribute it. So there is a practical difference and a difference of intent. If its commercial, you¹re

Re: From my spam box:

2014-07-20 Thread Marian Petrides, MD
I'm picturing this now--and the picture is hilarious! :-) Sent from my iPad > On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:40 AM, Richmond wrote: > > _F-I-T--_I N-T O..--_Y O..U_R--..B..I-K_I..N-I---_E-A..S-I_L Y_- A-G..A..I-N, > Richmondmathewson > > I couldn't resist posting this. > > Sorry! > > Richmond. > _

From my spam box:

2014-07-20 Thread Richmond
_F-I-T--_I N-T O..--_Y O..U_R--..B..I-K_I..N-I---_E-A..S-I_L Y_- A-G..A..I-N, Richmondmathewson I couldn't resist posting this. Sorry! Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscr

Re: CommandKeyDown in a library script?

2014-07-20 Thread Graham Samuel
Just to say, as the originator of this thread, I am entirely of the same opinion as Pete on this. To allow two versions of the same handler in the same script and then rely on the IDE to sort them out (without so much as a warning, even) strikes me as bizarre. If there are historical reasons for