Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richmond
On 15/07/14 23:31, Terence Heaford wrote: I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. Quite. Let's try this one then: [not to be taken as anything except a demonstration of the feebleness of smileys] Your nose looks like a pig's bottom :) I don't think the smiley does all

Re: HTML5 Campaign Update: 20% Tipping Point Achieved

2014-07-15 Thread Peter Haworth
Maybe the Kickstarter 15% commission? The Kickstarter plus is the larger audience though. Looking at the current HTML5 campaign, it's a long way off making its' goal right now so the larger audience may have been needed. The campaign is about half way though as of today. At the current run rat

Re: CommandKeyDown in a library script?

2014-07-15 Thread dunbarx
Graham. It should. It always has for me. Is the handler in the library stack in the stack script? It has to be, unless you send it explicity to a card or control on that stack. Are you sure you are not trapping it anywhere in the main stack? Or if you are, are you sure you are passing the me

iOS and the effective working screenRect

2014-07-15 Thread Dan Friedman
Greetings! On my iPhone 4 (iOS 5.1.1), with the keyboard activated, the effective working screenRect returns 0,0,640,744. This is obviously wrong -- 744 is not the top of the keyboard, 528 is correct. In the simulator with iOS 7, it seems correct. Anyone have any knowledge about this? Using

Re: LiveCodeServer - Prints shebang line

2014-07-15 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/15/2014 08:46 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Peter One of the contributions I made just prior to christmas was to handle the shebang and basically put the script into We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.6. Release Contents ... * '#!' now recognised by server

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Mike Kerner
On the topic of the DG, I have worked on and in it to tweak and fix a few things. I am amazed at how complex it is, and how many of lines of code it contains. I've thought about/played around with simplifying it, removing a couple thousand lines of code, etc. to make a DG-Lite, but I'm not happy

Re: LiveCodeServer - Prints shebang line

2014-07-15 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Peter One of the contributions I made just prior to christmas was to handle the shebang and basically put the script into wrote: > Somebody asked a question on the mailing list related to running LiveCode CGI > scripts using LiveCode Server - Livecode CGIs co-existing with old-school Rev >

Fwd: LiveCodeServer - Prints shebang line

2014-07-15 Thread Peter W A Wood
Somebody asked a question on the mailing list related to running LiveCode CGI scripts using LiveCode Server - Livecode CGIs co-existing with old-school Rev 2.x CGIs (Basically, he's trying to avoid changing the Apache configuration file). I don't see any reason that you can't use LiveCode Serve

Re: HTML5 Campaign Update: 20% Tipping Point Achieved

2014-07-15 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Heather Laine wrote: > We need YOUR SUPPORT to keep this campaign on track for its target. If you > have ideas for promoting it or suggestions as to what more we could be doing, > please let us know! The previous campaign was part of KickStarter, this one is no

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Kevin, Kevin Miller-2 wrote > If the data grid was written to be a widget, it would be a single object. > Much easier to make that run fast! Just out of curiosity... Why the default layerMode of the datagrid is "static"? Could the datagrid scrolls faster if the layerMode was set to "scrollin

Re: RLE images

2014-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/15/2014, 1:53 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: 2014-07-15 1:06 GMT+02:00 J. Landman Gay If anyone has definitive knowledge, please say. Otherwise I'll go with this. might be you are looking for paintCompression. Thanks, I'd forgotten about that. It's exactly what I need. -- Jacqueline Landma

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Terry, I came up with a technique to right justify columns in a scrolling list field a while back. It might tide you over until the real thing comes along. If you're interested, email me off list and I'll dig it out for you. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terence Heaford wrote: > It reminds me of one year in February we went walking on the Sands > of Morar and my granddaughter, 4 years old at the time, on a clear > blue sunny day (-3 deg C) fell into the sea fortunately wearing a > snow suit and the water did not penetrate. If you come to San Dieg

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/15/2014, 3:31 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. I hope some day you will come to one of the conferences and meet the engineers. To describe them as geniuses isn't giving them enough credit. They are some of the most talented, gifted p

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
I agree, it’s a difficult task I believe but it is needed. I regularly go on holiday (vacation) to Scotland but I have to say, not to sit on the beach. We have been fortunate with the weather when we visit Scotland whether in the Winter (we usually get some snow) or the summer (we usually have

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. Terry. On 15 Jul 2014, at 21:19, Richmond wrote: > On 15/07/14 23:08, Terence Heaford wrote: >> Will clarify which part of my posts you find rude? >> >> Terry. >> >> >> > > "Perhaps it is beyond the capabilities of the LiveCode

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terence Heaford wrote: > > On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> As a long time friend of ListMaster's author and having been >> the original publisher of ListMaster for several years, I know >> very well what a joy it is to work with. >> >> That is, if your audience is exclusively

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
Yes, I remember trying it in HyperCard although not grouping (such a long time ago), I will give it a try. If I remember correctly HyperCard's performance slowed with an increase in the number of fields. Maybe this will not be the case with grouped fields in LiveCode. Thanks Terry On 15 Ju

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richmond
On 15/07/14 23:08, Terence Heaford wrote: Will clarify which part of my posts you find rude? Terry. "Perhaps it is beyond the capabilities of the LiveCode programmers." I would be "miffed" to say the least at that one. Richmond. ___ use-livecod

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/15/2014, 2:08 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: Right aligned is not yet available for the basic table field and I have a project containing financial data which cannot as yet show a reasonable level of scrolling performance. Well, this part is pretty easy using existing controls and employs a t

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
Will clarify which part of my posts you find rude? Terry. On 15 Jul 2014, at 20:30, Richmond wrote: > On 15/07/14 22:08, Terence Heaford wrote: >> >> >> I am trying to provide genuine feedback. > > > Last time I tried to provide "genuine feedback" as rudely as you did the only > thing tha

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richmond
On 15/07/14 22:08, Terence Heaford wrote: I am trying to provide genuine feedback. Last time I tried to provide "genuine feedback" as rudely as you did the only thing that happened was that I got "smacked" and ended up both looking and feeling like a bl**dy fool. So; learn from "Uncle Ri

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terence Heaford wrote: > On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> That's more or less how ListMaster works, but doing it in C rather >> than in script. > > I believe ListMaster is based upon the old classic/carbon LDEF system. Exactly. Custom LDEFs like the one written for ListMaste

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
If I understand your reply correctly, when widgets become available then the DG will be provided as an example? What is the target date for widgets to become mainstream? All the best Terry On 15 Jul 2014, at 20:07, Kevin Miller wrote: > Indeed. Ultimately everything will be a widget. Existi

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
Is LiveCode’s market purely cross platform? Clearly ListMaster is Mac only but this should not preclude LiveCode’s authors from trying to achieve an acceptable level of performance from their controls. Clearly DG has limited performance as it is built in the scripting environment, For those wis

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Kevin Miller
Indeed. Ultimately everything will be a widget. Existing objects will be for backward compatibility. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 15/07/2014 19:26, "Roger Eller" wrote: >So with the introduction of the new w

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
I believe ListMaster is based upon the old classic/carbon LDEF system. All the best Terry On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > That's more or less how ListMaster works, but doing it in C rather than in > script. ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
Yes, it is much better than DG for a scrolling table but really needs right aligned. I believe it’s on the way at some point. All the best Terry On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Your observations on this have been well and thoroughly described, but have > you had a chance t

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Roger Eller
So with the introduction of the new widgets infrastructure, will the datagrid object be reworked and provided as an example? That would be an awesome endorsement for widgets! ~Roger On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > If the data grid was written to be a widget, it would be

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Kevin Miller
If the data grid was written to be a widget, it would be a single object. Much easier to make that run fast! Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 15/07/2014 09:26, "stephen barncard" wrote: >Datagrid excepted. That

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terence Heaford wrote: > LiveCode is NOT very fast in my opinion. > > I repeat what I have said before, scrolling of a DataGrid is > abysmally slow, in my opinion, when compared to other programming > apps. Which other programming apps provide a point-and-click way to produce form layouts like

CommandKeyDown in a library script?

2014-07-15 Thread Graham Samuel
When I create a new mainstack and put a commandKeyDown handler in it, the handler fires when I press the relevant key. When I put the same code in a library stack, which is used via a "start using" command at initialisation, it doesn't seem to fire. Can anyone say why? TIA Graham

Re: HTML5 Campaign Update: 20% Tipping Point Achieved

2014-07-15 Thread Mark Wieder
I see WebCode is part of the new macheist bundle: http://macheist.com/#overview -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscr

Re: Security hole?

2014-07-15 Thread Peter Haworth
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:20 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > not unless you don't want to run the scripts... Sorry Stephen, too many negatives in there for me to wrap my brain around :-) Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: Open stack problem

2014-07-15 Thread Bob Sneidar
More than likely, there is a script in the stack you open, or possibly the stack you are opening from, that has a runtime error that silently fails and script execution stops. But trying to explain why it works when you double click and not when you click the button would be much more difficult

HTML5 Campaign Update: 20% Tipping Point Achieved

2014-07-15 Thread Heather Laine
Dear List Folks, Today our HTML5 Campaign passed the 20% tipping point. Crowd funding statistics show that once a project gets past 20% it has an 80% chance of being successful. This is encouraging, but of course its not time to sit back and become complacent. We've a long way to go yet. Our c

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > I repeat what I have said before, scrolling of a DataGrid Datagrid excepted. That thing is a monster, and it needs to be of it's own dog food. But there's a lot of "binary" precompiled stuff that is quite speedy. *--* *Stephen Barncard

Re: [OT] SWIFT

2014-07-15 Thread Terence Heaford
I was tempted to not reply but I couldn’t resist. LiveCode is NOT very fast in my opinion. I repeat what I have said before, scrolling of a DataGrid is abysmally slow, in my opinion, when compared to other programming apps. Even a now out of date SuperCard when using the ListMaster external is