Re: 6.1 dp2 out now

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
On 23/06/13 22:53, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:26:43 PM, you wrote: That is still "not very good" that the thing wouldn't play ball from another disk. That should be pointed out to Linux users. Well, one of the problems with expanding the audience of the dp releases

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread John
LC has a lot of "moving part" going on behind the scenes and much of it is not immediately obvious. I can definitely say this list is a great resource and between the suggestions, the clarifications, and my somewhat kludgy work around I have a path forward. Thanks, John

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread Dar Scott
Arithmetic takes (for each parameter) either a string that is a numeral or it takes the result of arithmetic (or sometimes binaryDecode). The result of arithmetic is a "double precision" floating point number, an internal representation. That essentially means you get about 15 digits of resolu

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread Mike Bonner
Not sure it will work as you need it too, but one last test before I crash. I put a calc into a field and did this: *put* format("%1.60e",value(field 1)) Bipassing do, and it seems to function well enough. Would have to wrap it in a try/catch or something since you can't count on the user put

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread John
Mike, I need to dig a bit deeper and perhaps make a test app. The issue could be a bit more complicated in my case as the math is happening behind a "do" statement. There is field in which the user enters what they want to calculate. I take that and add a "put" and an "into" targeting

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread Mike Bonner
Hmm. was just messing with it in the message box.. I'm not a math guy, but seems that when using format you shouldn't need to specify the numberformat. I did this.. put format("%1.60e",1.23456e-41 * 1e-20) where 60 is the desired precision. Seems to work, same type of result but you specify the

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread John
Craig, With an insanely large number of "#" in number format I can get this to work: 1234567890123e-10 * 1e-170. I get the result: 1.2345678901230e-168. It appears that there is a bit more going on as they are floating point values. Thanks, John On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Craig Newman

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread John
Mike, Thanks for the tip. I am using "format" for display purposes so that I get correctly formatted numbers but, unless I use "numberFormat" first, there is not enough precision available from the result of the multiplication and the result is 0. It appears that "numberFormat" sets the

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread Craig Newman
I may be old fashioned, in that I always thought that the Apple SANE limits, 19 digits, was still the law of the land. This is OS9 stuff, though and I could just be doddering. But it would mean that setting the number format to such an outrageous string would be futile, most of that string ignor

Re: Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread Mike Bonner
look at the format function, specifically the "%#.##E" (or e) incantation. On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:20 PM, John wrote: >It seems odd that I haven't stumbled into this before and I am sure I > am doing something wrong, I just can't seem to find a better way around the > issue of working wit

Small valued numbers or scientific computing

2013-06-23 Thread John
It seems odd that I haven't stumbled into this before and I am sure I am doing something wrong, I just can't seem to find a better way around the issue of working with small numbers. Suppose I want to multiply two small numbers such as: 1.23456e-41 * 1e-20. Unless I am happy with a resul

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Jacques Hausser
Le 24 juin 2013 à 02:01, Scott Rossi a écrit : > Although one *could* look at this scenario as simply trying to set the > filename of the image, but in this case, the filename happens to be empty. > If you couldn't set the filename of any image, what would you suggest? Having > 2 types of ima

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Monte Goulding
On 24/06/2013, at 10:01 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Although one *could* look at this scenario as simply trying to set the > filename of the image, but in this case, the filename happens to be empty. > If you couldn't set the filename of any image, what would you suggest? Having > 2 types of ima

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Scott Rossi
Although one *could* look at this scenario as simply trying to set the filename of the image, but in this case, the filename happens to be empty.  If you couldn't set the filename of any image, what would you suggest? Having 2 types of images?  Or disallow the filename property for imported imag

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/23/13 5:15 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Monte- Sunday, June 23, 2013, 3:05:33 PM, you wrote: The first is setting an image's filename to empty when it's not a referenced image clears the image.. As it would currently return empty for the filename setting it to empty should have no effect in my

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Monte Goulding
Exactly my thoughts. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 24/06/2013, at 9:03 AM, Jacques Hausser wrote: > When the filename is already empty, the image was imported and emptying it > should do absolutely nothing. They are other ways to cl

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Monte Goulding
>From your description I'm not sure how you are using setting the filename of >an image to empty clearing it as a feature. Note that if you have an imported >image then setting its text should clear it. If you have a referenced image >then setting its filename should clear it. The quirk is that

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Jacques Hausser
As long as emptying the filename of a *referenced* image actually clears the imagedata, I would agree with Mark and Monte. When the filename is already empty, the image was imported and emptying it should do absolutely nothing. They are other ways to clear it (set the text of image "X" to "").

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Pierre Sahores
Mark, I use this as an useful feature all the time when i need to load and work on an image and its magedata in putting it first in (the template of) the pre definite empty image. Le 24 juin 2013 à 00:15, Mark Wieder a écrit : > To put that into perspective: > > create a new stack > import a

Re: Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Monte- Sunday, June 23, 2013, 3:05:33 PM, you wrote: > The first is setting an image's filename to empty when it's not a > referenced image clears the image.. As it would currently return > empty for the filename setting it to empty should have no effect in > my opinion. This would be consistent

Monte's changing things again

2013-06-23 Thread Monte Goulding
I've identified another couple of quirks while working on the properties array that might need addressing in various ways. The first is setting an image's filename to empty when it's not a referenced image clears the image.. As it would currently return empty for the filename setting it to emp

Re: 6.1 dp2 out now

2013-06-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, June 23, 2013, 12:26:43 PM, you wrote: > That is still "not very good" that the thing wouldn't play ball from > another disk. > That should be pointed out to Linux users. Well, one of the problems with expanding the audience of the dp releases is that people will install them.

Re: 6.1 dp2 out now

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
On 06/23/2013 10:03 PM, Richmond wrote: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_1_0/ Richmond. To which; having downloaded the Linux version of LC 6.1 dp 2 and attempted an install we get a "merry little message": "The installation was not successful. "Installer slave quit unexpectedly.

6.1 dp2 out now

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_1_0/ Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-

Re: Running LiveCode on Google Chrome Books

2013-06-23 Thread Mike Kerner
The new units also have a certain amount of local storage for using with Google Drive. The chromebook is designed mainly to be a lightweight, fast, cheap, high-battery life machine for running HTML5. The main weakness, IMHO, is that it is about 5 years late because ipads and android tablets are f

Re: Running LiveCode on Google Chrome Books

2013-06-23 Thread Roger Eller
Perhaps when we have an Arm version of LiveCode. It looks like a 'true' OS can be installed on Chrome book hardware. See ChrUbuntu. http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com�; ~Roger Sent from my Pipo M2 On Jun 23, 2013 12:41 PM, "Richmond" wrote: > On 06/23/2013 05:39 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > >> Yo

Re: Running LiveCode on Google Chrome Books

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
On 06/23/2013 05:39 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: You can't. Chromebooks are running Chromium, which is just enough OS to get you into a browser (and a very minimal file system). I have just fired up Chromium in VMware player and can see that it is not really what I would call an operating system

Re: Running LiveCode on Google Chrome Books

2013-06-23 Thread Mike Kerner
You can't. Chromebooks are running Chromium, which is just enough OS to get you into a browser (and a very minimal file system). On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Ian Wood wrote: > I thought you could only run web apps on Chromebooks, not native code? > > Ian > > On 22 Jun 2013, at 16:48, Mark

Re: Installer always downloads community version rather than commercial version

2013-06-23 Thread Dave Kilroy2
No I haven't seen this behaviour - however the LiveCode updater hasn't been firing for me since version 6.0.0 -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Installer-always-downloads-community-version-rather-than-commercial-version-tp4666716p4666727.html Sent

Running LiveCode on Google Chrome Books

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
Dunno . . . . . . but here's something worth looking at to get started with: http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/10/how-to-run-chrome-os-not-chromium-os-on.html I'm going to "have a go" after the other 57 things on my list! Richmond. ___ use-live

iOS error: external revDB not found for device

2013-06-23 Thread Alan Stenhouse
Hi all Am trying to build an app for iOS with LC 5.5.5 and get the error: Could not find external revdb for Device though I can see that it's in the application subfolder: /Tools/Runtime/iOS/Device/ I've successfully built the app with previous versions of LC. Has anyone else seen this error

[OT] Kickstarter Goals

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
http://www.roywood.co.uk/ and resemblance between Roy Wood's website and Livecode Kickstarter Goals and Stretch Goals is purely . . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and ma

Re: old habits are hard to break

2013-06-23 Thread Peter M. Brigham
Got errors popping up "no such button" -- the button was referred to as "bg btn id 1" and it evidently referred to the popup button to choose the number of iterations, and its ID in the properties inspector was 4982. I found several other similar object references, then poked around a little mor

[OT] "Invest in Gold Shares"

2013-06-23 Thread Richmond
Not round here, mate! I just found the Spam filter (thank you, thank you, thank you Thunderbird e-mail client) of my g-mail account stuffed with 15 copies of a st-o-o-o-pid message about 'GOLD SHARES' and wondered if anybody else is getting the same sort of nonsense. I have been getting about