Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Yes, checkboxes are bitmap... and if there are a lot of them this explains all the bloat. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/dealing-with-these-huge-pdf-files-generated-tp4665689p4665782.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Na

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Terry Judd
On 03/06/2013, at 01:38 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > >> Perhaps you could 'replace' all the bitmaps with either graphic or text >> objects when you do your pdf export. If you have lots of checkboxes for >> example you could replace these with a sim

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Terry Judd
Just did a quick test - two cards, each with a field containing a single line of text, the first card has two checkboxes labelled A and B, the second has two label fields ('x A' and 'x B'). Exported both cards to PDF: card 1 - 11,100 bytes, card 2 - 3,500 bytes. If you are rendering a lot of tho

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 10:08 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- How about copying the revapplicationoverview.rev from the 5.x Toolset set directory into the community version? Does that fix things for you? Actually when you stop and think about things it is quite easy to see that wouldn't work, as last

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:32 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > that's really odd, as I thought Postscript was designed to be frugal - the > beginnings of desktop publishing used machines with 128k of RAM! > > ( in the case if there is a bitmap present, all bets are

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread kee nethery
In the article: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/apple-betrayed-by-its-own-law-firm/ I am not sure what the lawyer patented exactly but if is was moving an object on the screen by pointing to it, there were touch screens way back when and the sample code from the 1993 HyperTalk

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > Perhaps you could 'replace' all the bitmaps with either graphic or text > objects when you do your pdf export. If you have lots of checkboxes for > example you could replace these with a simple x or tick. Any buttons you > don't really need to sh

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Brahmanathswami
Great publicity Mind-boogling that these software patents get approved. Wasn't this part of Hypercard? on mouseDown grab me end mouseDown Brahmanathaswami Björnke von Gierke wrote: Of large importance to this list is the third last paragraph, (last link on the first page of two): " ..

Re: navigating & compiling the community dedition source

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Wieder
hi- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 1:14:52 PM, you wrote: > I've managed to download the source, to see if I can make fixes for some of > these errors. Could be a number of different things happening here. How did you download the source? Did you get the submodules? Third-party items? Are you on the mast

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Terry Judd
Perhaps you could 'replace' all the bitmaps with either graphic or text objects when you do your pdf export. If you have lots of checkboxes for example you could replace these with a simple x or tick. Any buttons you don't really need to show could also go. Terry... On 03/06/2013, at 09:32 AM,

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread stephen barncard
that's really odd, as I thought Postscript was designed to be frugal - the beginnings of desktop publishing used machines with 128k of RAM! ( in the case if there is a bitmap present, all bets are off, because the size will explode trying to describe an image.) On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM,

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:23 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > I don't know how many pages are involved, but half a megabye doesn't seem > small for textual information. That's a lot of bloat in my opinion I've > created multi-page pdf docs under 100k. > 4 pages,

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread stephen barncard
I don't know how many pages are involved, but half a megabye doesn't seem small for textual information. That's a lot of bloat in my opinion I've created multi-page pdf docs under 100k. On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > The PDF file that you linked (output.cd.jrlien_m

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > The PDF file that you linked (output.cd.jrlien_multiexempt.pdf) > was really small. Just 468k. > > Could you post this EXACT PDF file created using LiveCode > pdf printing command? > I think this one was from livecode--but it's only four p

Re: Graphic tools - works in IDE, fails in Standalone

2013-06-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Graham, Graham Samuel-4 wrote > [snip] > As an experiment, I made a very simple standalone that consists only of a > mainstack with one card (the drawing area) and a substack with one card > (the tool palette) with three tools - rectangle, oval and line). It also > works in the IDE but not as

Re: dealing with these *huge* pdf files generated

2013-06-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada
The PDF file that you linked (output.cd.jrlien_multiexempt.pdf) was really small. Just 468k. Could you post this EXACT PDF file created using LiveCode pdf printing command? Maybe, just maybe, Livecode is interpreting each word as an object, so instead of a single object (a paragraph) the file p

Re: Detect Name of Button on Mouse Click

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > look at "the target" in the dictionary. > I also use buttons with the script on mouseUp dispatch the short name of me end mouseUp or on mouseUp doSomething the short name of me end mouseUp where a doSomething handler is on the car

navigating & compiling the community dedition source

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I've managed to download the source, to see if I can make fixes for some of these errors. Simply typing "make" in the livecode directory didn't get me anywhere. Has anyone built it? And is there a map to the directory structure? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 _

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
Similarly to the problem with the Application Browser, selectedText in the Preferences palette is always selected in BLACK in version 6, while earlier versions picked up on an operating system's preferences as to what colour should be used to designate selected text. I have uploaded a picture

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 10:08 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- How about copying the revapplicationoverview.rev from the 5.x Toolset set directory into the community version? Does that fix things for you? I've just tried that with the one from 5.5.5 and still have a monochrome AppBrowser . . . I hon

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 10:05 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 11:31:51 AM, you wrote: It probably is low on your list; but then, as far as I know, you won't have a classroom full of children from the "Short-Attention-Span-I-Want-It-Now' generation. LOL. Good point. Although, M

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- How about copying the revapplicationoverview.rev from the 5.x Toolset set directory into the community version? Does that fix things for you? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.co

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 11:31:51 AM, you wrote: > It probably is low on your list; but then, as far as I know, you won't > have a classroom full of children from the > "Short-Attention-Span-I-Want-It-Now' > generation. LOL. Good point. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 09:56 PM, Jacques Hausser wrote: Richmond, Why not to use the project browser instead with your children ? It is full of colors, and does what the application browser does, and more, even if the look is different. I guess that the application browser will die soon… That thou

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Jacques Hausser
Richmond, Why not to use the project browser instead with your children ? It is full of colors, and does what the application browser does, and more, even if the look is different. I guess that the application browser will die soon… Jacques Le 2 juin 2013 à 20:44, J. Landman Gay a écrit : >

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/2/13 1:31 PM, Richmond wrote: On 06/02/2013 09:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 10:53:32 AM, you wrote: I have seen a monochrome Application Browser with LC 6.0.2 on I see it on linux and OSX. I likewise haven't bothered to pop up the Virtualbox xp image. But I

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 09:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 10:53:32 AM, you wrote: I have seen a monochrome Application Browser with LC 6.0.2 on I see it on linux and OSX. I likewise haven't bothered to pop up the Virtualbox xp image. But I have to say this is low on my list o

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 10:53:32 AM, you wrote: > I have seen a monochrome Application Browser with LC 6.0.2 on I see it on linux and OSX. I likewise haven't bothered to pop up the Virtualbox xp image. But I have to say this is low on my list of things to worry about. -- -Mark Wieder

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:12 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Also, Here's an article the lawyer's wife wrote for RunRev's Newsletter in 2005, two years pre-iPhone. http://newsletters.livecode.com/march/issue22/newsletter2.php Jim Lambert ___ Interestingly enough the

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 10:13:19 AM, you wrote: Never mind, I just saw the image you posted to the forum. Windows don't look like that on my Mac. Maybe it's a Linux window manager thing? I can confirm that the Application Browser is devoid of c

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 10:13:19 AM, you wrote: Never mind, I just saw the image you posted to the forum. Windows don't look like that on my Mac. Maybe it's a Linux window manager thing? I can confirm that the Application Browser is devoid of c

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Sunday, June 2, 2013, 10:13:19 AM, you wrote: > Never mind, I just saw the image you posted to the forum. Windows don't > look like that on my Mac. Maybe it's a Linux window manager thing? I can confirm that the Application Browser is devoid of color on linux, but I confess I didn't noti

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:09 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Dr. Milekic participated in the use-revolution list in 2006 & 2004. His questions seeme very much related to this invention. Jim Lambert ___ Bulgarians would make fairly pointed noises that Dr Milekic is a

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 08:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/2/13 11:30 AM, Richmond wrote: On 06/02/2013 07:04 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Richmond wrote: I don't know if the commercial version has retained the colour that has been a wonderful feature of LC from version 1 to

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/2/13 12:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/2/13 11:30 AM, Richmond wrote: On 06/02/2013 07:04 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Richmond wrote: I don't know if the commercial version has retained the colour that has been a wonderful feature of LC from version 1 to 4.5

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Jim Lambert
Also, Here's an article the lawyer's wife wrote for RunRev's Newsletter in 2005, two years pre-iPhone. http://newsletters.livecode.com/march/issue22/newsletter2.php Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit thi

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Jim Lambert
Dr. Milekic participated in the use-revolution list in 2006 & 2004. His questions seeme very much related to this invention. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/2/13 11:30 AM, Richmond wrote: On 06/02/2013 07:04 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Richmond wrote: I don't know if the commercial version has retained the colour that has been a wonderful feature of LC from version 1 to 4.5 (at least). Nope. It looks oddly like d

Re: Galactic Gauntlet crashes and questions

2013-06-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Works well in the simulator here. I will try it on my iPads later. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com On Jun 2, 2013, at 10:16 AM, William Waldman wrote: > Hello List! > > I happen to have the Galactic Gauntlet project files (from the Academy > DVD). > When I compi

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
On 06/02/2013 07:04 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Richmond wrote: I don't know if the commercial version has retained the colour that has been a wonderful feature of LC from version 1 to 4.5 (at least). Nope. It looks oddly like developin on HyperCard/SuperCard 25 ye

Re: [BEGINNER] Database question dbWhere

2013-06-02 Thread Shawn Blc
Mike, Thank you that's what I'm looking for, unfortunately it's not working though. I'll post to Andre's forum. On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Oh, and you would get a better response by posting to the dbLib forum. > http://andregarzia.com/forum/ > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 201

Re: Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Richmond wrote: > > I don't know if the commercial version has retained the colour that > has been a wonderful feature of LC from version 1 to 4.5 (at least). Nope. It looks oddly like developin on HyperCard/SuperCard 25 years ago . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawki

Re: bundling multiple database queries and getting a result

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
It is now bug 10940 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10940. I've confirmed in 6.0.1 commercial, and a 6.0.1 standalone, as well. I've also seen that SQLite returns incorrect results. put "BEGIN TRANSACTION;" & cr into dcmd >put "SELECT '1', * FROM testtable WHERE ky='cat';" & cr a

Graphic tools - works in IDE, fails in Standalone

2013-06-02 Thread Graham Samuel
I have a desktop app (Mac and PC) under development. It has a small drawing palette (vector graphics only). The user picks a type of object to draw (rectangle, oval etc) and can also alter the fill, line size etc. The drawing actions take place on a card which is permanently open. This works pe

Re: [BEGINNER] Database question dbWhere

2013-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Oh, and you would get a better response by posting to the dbLib forum. http://andregarzia.com/forum/ On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > dbWhere is part of dbLib (nice library) > > fldOn is an actual field name on a form that you have set up? > > If thats the case it is probabl

Re: [BEGINNER] Database question dbWhere

2013-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
dbWhere is part of dbLib (nice library) fldOn is an actual field name on a form that you have set up? If thats the case it is probably dbWhere "fldOn", field "fldOn" that you need. so, "fldOn" would be the column name from your table that you are checking and field "fldOn" would contain the text

Re: bundling multiple database queries and getting a result

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > > I've only tested this on sqlite. No clue if it works with other dbms. > That seems to be the issue. I may be hitting the same bug with postgres that I've hit before. I have a button with: on mouseUp --code for a button showing the bu

Re: [BEGINNER] Database question dbWhere

2013-06-02 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Shawn, I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you using someone's database library? Which library exactly? What does dbWhere do according to the documentation of the library? Don't you need to connect to the database first, or did you do that already? Are you getting any errors that you can po

Galactic Gauntlet crashes and questions

2013-06-02 Thread William Waldman
Hello List! I happen to have the Galactic Gauntlet project files (from the Academy DVD). When I compile and load it on my iPhone and iPad (both iOS 6.1.3) it runs very herky-jerky (especially as the rocket ship descends) and usually crashes within a few moments. So does the "commercial" version a

Re: bundling multiple database queries and getting a result

2013-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > You can't do multi line sql with livecode, you have to issue them > separately. So for example in SQLite this works to reduce latency: > That is incorrect. I am using multi-line insert/alter with both postgres & sqlite. Hundreds of li

Re: bundling multiple database queries and getting a result

2013-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Just tried it on one of my databases with revdatafrom query. Did this in the message box: put "BEGIN TRANSACTION;" into tSql -- transaction start. Add semicolon. put cr & "select * from clientinfo where applicantname like 'Garcia%';" after tSql -- next line, add semicolon put cr & "select * fro

[BEGINNER] Database question dbWhere

2013-06-02 Thread Shawn Blc
I have this: on mouseUP put "1" into tDataA["fldStatus"] dbWhere "fldOn", fldOn -- fldOn should equal fldOn in the database put dbUpdate ("contacts", tDataA) into tResult end mouseUP Basically what I want is to make sure that in the dbWhere statement that fldOn from t

Re: bundling multiple database queries and getting a result

2013-06-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
You can't do multi line sql with livecode, you have to issue them separately. So for example in SQLite this works to reduce latency: revexecuteSQL theConnID, "BEGIN TRANSACTION" repeat 20 times revexecuteSQL theConnID, "INSERT INTO table (column) VALUES 'blah'" end repeat revexecuteSQL theConn

Re: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Of large importance to this list is the third last paragraph, (last link on the first page of two): " ... Milekic had never written a line of code or taken a programming class; he told a Philly tech publication that his touchscreen software was built with a program called RunTime Revolution, wh

Monochrome Woes

2013-06-02 Thread Richmond
I have just been taking some screen shots of components of the Livecode IDE ready for my Livecode classes I will start teaching in the third week of June and beginning to get a bit cheesed-off . . . . . . for why? All the colour (or 'color' if you prefer) has been drained out of the LC 6.0.2 OSS

RE: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution plays a bit part

2013-06-02 Thread John Dixon
Definition of a 'good' start ? ... ten dead lawyers > Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 20:26:17 -0700 > Subject: Another bizarre Apple patent troll case, in which Runtime Revolution > plays a bit part > From: bornst...@designeq.com > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/