Re: The inmates have been let loose!

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/21/2012 12:52 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Anyone seen this? Seems like the inmates at Apple have been let out of their cells and are now running the company! http://www.macworld.com/article/1168193/bugs_and_fixes_default_folder_changes_in_mountain_lion.html#lsrc.nl_mwweek_h_cbintro Documents

Re: changes to the runrev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/21/2012 12:33 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Where else would we go? Monopolies almost always "go funny" for lack of viable competition. Bob On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Richmond wrote: Or, if one wants to be more thrawn and less blate: all those commercial model changes could make peopl

Re: local helper application for remote database buffering

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Monday, August 20, 2012, william humphrey wrote: > What remote database are you using? > I'm planning on it being Postgres, but I want to stay compatible with MySQL, too I'm assumeing that I'd buffer into mysql -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@

Resize stack

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm using the Geometry Manager to manage the resiang of a scrolling list field when its stack is resized. I know, I know, using the Geometry Manager is my first problem but that's the way it is right now! If I select a line in the scrolling list field, scroll down so the selected line is out of s

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
I agree with that, that's why I thought the behavior I was seeing was so weird. I started using a fresh copy of the stack and all now works as expected so there must have been some corruption in the version of the stack I was using. There might be an existing way to find out the "progenitor" - th

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread dunbarx
Bob. It seems more natural to me that the owner is the current card. It makes the message hierarchy consistent. The "progenitor" could be a property as you suggest, but since this is not native, just set a custom property of the group to the id of the card that gave it birth. You then get ev

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Send it to me if you like and I will have a look at it here. Bob On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Neither can I, except for this one stack that exhibits the behavior. I'm > suspecting some sort of stack corruption. > Pete > lcSQL Software > > > > On

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Neither can I, except for this one stack that exhibits the behavior. I'm suspecting some sort of stack corruption. Pete lcSQL Software On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I cannot make it work where the owner is the first card the group was > placed on

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Never mind works the same either way. Frankly, I would like the owner to return the card it was originally on. It seems confusing to me that the owner would change when the active card changes. Doesn't seem intuitive. I suppose however, this might allow for the deletion of the "owner" card witho

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread dunbarx
Bob. I am intrigued. Craig -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 5:53 pm Subject: Re: The Owner of a background group Behave as background on? Bob On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Hi Craig, > Interesting, I won

The inmates have been let loose!

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Anyone seen this? Seems like the inmates at Apple have been let out of their cells and are now running the company! http://www.macworld.com/article/1168193/bugs_and_fixes_default_folder_changes_in_mountain_lion.html#lsrc.nl_mwweek_h_cbintro Bob ___ us

App signature is not valid

2012-08-20 Thread Howard Bornstein
I have a strange situation where, when I install an app on three devices (iPhone 4, iPad 3, iPhone 3G), it installs fine on the first two, but does not install on the iPhone 3G, giving me the error "App not installed because the app signature is not valid". They all use the same provisioning profil

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Craig, I just my own test and got the same results as you so clearly there's something strange in the stack that exhibits the problem. Tracking down what it is will be an adventure I'm sure. Pete lcSQL Software On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM, wrote: > Peter. > > > I

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Behave as background on? Bob On Aug 20, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Hi Craig, > Interesting, I wonder what's different in my situation. It's not my stack > that exhibits this behavior so hard to dissect it. Maybe it's some other > setting of the group that is causing the behavior

Re: changes to the runrev store

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Where else would we go? Bob On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Richmond wrote: > Or, if one wants to be more thrawn and less blate: all those commercial model > changes could make people so fed up they move elsewhere. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-

Re: more on-rev issues

2012-08-20 Thread Pierre Sahores
My mistake. Thanks for your clarification reminder, Mike. Le 20 août 2012 à 22:54, Mike Bonner a écrit : > Engine Changes > > Important: As of 5.5-dp-3, the default stack file format has been updated > to 5.5. The previous default version (2.7) has been set as a legacy option > in the “Save As”

Fwd: more on-rev issues

2012-08-20 Thread Pierre Sahores
Try this before anything else (comment preopenstack from your stack script): #on preOpenStack # open file "theoutput.txt" for write # write "here's some text" & return to file "theoutput.txt" # close file "theoutput.txt" # open printing to pdf "thepdf.pdf" # print card 1 into 18,18,5

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Monte Goulding
Kevin has stated that they will work on the page to make it all clearer. I don't think it's all that complicated. Just a new option. I think pay as you go is great. It's cheaper to keep updated which is better for everyone. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Craig, Interesting, I wonder what's different in my situation. It's not my stack that exhibits this behavior so hard to dissect it. Maybe it's some other setting of the group that is causing the behavior. I used the message box to check this out: put the long ID of the owner of GroupA of Car

Re: more on-rev issues

2012-08-20 Thread Mike Bonner
Engine Changes Important: As of 5.5-dp-3, the default stack file format has been updated to 5.5. The previous default version (2.7) has been set as a legacy option in the “Save As” dialog. As such, the field updates added in 5.5 are now no longer considered experimental. Warning: File Format chan

Re: more on-rev issues

2012-08-20 Thread Pierre Sahores
Your stack seems to be corrupted if i try to open it from the IDE. And from the message box, the reply is "no such card". If that can help, you can send me both your lc cgi-script + your stack lib if you want that try to get it running as a working example. Server's stacks don't have to be save

Re: The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread dunbarx
Peter. I don't see this. I made a card and a background group, I made a background field that, on opencard, would show the owner of the group. I made a few new cards. Navigating, the owner of the group is the current card, not the first card where all the authoring took place. Using the "pl

The Owner of a background group

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
It appears that requesting the owner of a background group does not always return the card on which the group exists. I think it returns the card on which the group was initially placed. For example, if groupA is a background group initially placed on Card1, then placed on card2 and I ask for the

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
It seems to me from the conversations in this thread that RunRev's pricing is way, way to complicated. Either that or it's just not explained very well. I just took a look at Real Studio's Edition Comparison chart, it being the closest thing I can find to Livecode (yes I know it doesn't do mobile

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Richmond wrote: > Can one buy a version of Livecode 'outright' so to speak; insofar as once > one has bought > the version and downloaded it onto physical media, one can go on using it > to develop software > for as long as one wants? > Yes, that is the perpetual

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
All the replies to my questions are very charming, but don't really answer a simple question: Can one buy a version of Livecode 'outright' so to speak; insofar as once one has bought the version and downloaded it onto physical media, one can go on using it to develop software for as long as o

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Mike Bonner
This is true with "gold" perpetual (it seems) but complete does include updates for a year. Of course complete has a 1500 dollar buy in and and then 749 per year after that. (id does include the dev program of course) Seems to me if a) you don't already own complete, and/or b) don't need the devel

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Oh, i have to correct myself: It looks like not all perpetual licenses do include upgrades for a year. Very strange. But i was right with the PayAsYouGo licenses. They expire after the "payed time". You do not buy, but you do rent the license. Runrev´s definition: The Pay as you Go package ha

Re: HIG, right click issue

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks for the insight Richard. At one point, I tried to mimic the OS X behavior for shooing a different highlight for right click than left click but didn't really like the result as regards my particular application. I also tried setting the hilite of a right-clicked line but ran into some prob

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Richmond wrote: > 1. I get LC + upgrades for a year, and then all the versions I have bought > in that year "turn into pumpkins at the stroke of midnight" and stop > working? > No, that's the monthly subscription. 2. I get LC + upgrades for a year, and upgrades

has anyone worked on in-app purchase through google?

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Has anyone dealt with in-app purchases through google store on a standalone (or server version, for that matter?) As I'm looking at the basic google wallet set up, it sends an email, but I want to be able to have an authorization code automatically generated, which will need one field from the use

Re: changes to the runrev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/20/2012 09:55 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Rev has always been fair to the point of generosity in my own experience, so this is not a criticism. Heather is always clear and helpful and friendly. And the language is very nice indeed. Always! However, I do feel that one of RunRev's weaknes

Re: more on-rev issues

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: > Try in having the lc script and the livecode lib stack in the same > directory > > and use this code to know if all get as expected : > I don't seem to be getting far enough to try that; the file isn't getting found. they're both there in

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/20/2012 07:26 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Yes and no. The PayAsYouGo licenses do expire after a year. It´s similar to the new Adobe subscription modell. Just see it as renting software. That license model is new. Ouch! Now does that mean: 1. I get LC + upgrades for a year, and then all t

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/20/2012 07:01 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Wait, you are saying that when the LC license expires you are no longer capable of developing with it?? Is that true? Maybe I'm being a bit thick, BUT: 1. I sometimes use my Mac Dreamcard from some 9 years ago - in fact I have had it while 3 Macs ha

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Yes and no. The PayAsYouGo licenses do expire after a year. It´s similar to the new Adobe subscription modell. Just see it as renting software. That license model is new. The perpetual license does not expire. You will get new updates for one year. After that you have to purchase a renewal for

Re: local helper application for remote database buffering

2012-08-20 Thread Josh
What I'm doing is, on closeField, an SQL command is created and added to a queue, which is stored in a custom property, as well as calling a handler that starts processing the queue. Since this is fairly instant there is no lag in tabbing through fields or any user interface operation. The que

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wait, you are saying that when the LC license expires you are no longer capable of developing with it?? Is that true? Bob On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:08 AM, Nigel Soden wrote: > Greetings >> Or, you could be like me and develop software with whatever version of >> Livecode you already own and not

Re: HIG, right click issue

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Monday, August 20, 2012, 7:33:21 AM, you wrote: > For example, in OS X's Finder list view, right-clicking preserves the > original selection while also providing a context menu for the specific > item in the list being right-clicked on, rather than for the list as a > whole. It's kind o

Re: remedial mysql???

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hmmm that is interesting I didn't know that. What happens if you already have a transaction started then? I ask because sqlYoga has a transaction command. I have to think that if you start a transaction mySQL would use that transaction instead of starting another (if that were even possible).

Re: remedial mysql???

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
BTW shouldn't the column be enclosed in sql quotes? `` Bob On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > However, > > START TRANSACTION; > ALTER TABLE dna ADD chrType CHAR(1); > COMMIT; > > This, though, produces the error ___ use-livecode m

Re: remedial mysql???

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Try putting that code into the query pane in SQL Workbench and see what it indicates. It, like most SQL utilities has a kind of code checker which will hilite any problems with the sql syntax. Bob On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > However, > > START TRANSACTION; > ALTER TAB

Re: local helper application for remote database buffering

2012-08-20 Thread william humphrey
What remote database are you using? On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > Aside from the "minor" issues of database creation and the web buffer > layer, I have my application talking to a remote server. > > The lag, though, is quite noticeable, when tabbing from one field that >

Weird speed problem

2012-08-20 Thread Lars Brehmer
I am looking for tips on how to solve a strange problem I am having. I have two very similar stacks that are behaving very differently speed wise. In a nutshell; Both are splashscreen stacks that contain 3 more compressed stacks as custom properties. When the stack (or standalone) launches, if

Re: HIG, right click issue

2012-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Pete- Sunday, August 19, 2012, 4:32:02 PM, you wrote: Let's say I: - click on line 4 of the scrolling list field - command click on line 6 of the scrolling list field Now lines 4 and 6 are hilited and the hilitedlines contain 4,6 Now I right-click on line 10. Line

Shell is now also blocking animated gif's ?

2012-08-20 Thread Rolf Kocherhans
In the past I used a lot of shell commands. I have always used a animated gif's to show that the app is still running, because the shell blocked LiveCode but not animated gif's. With the new version of LiveCode 5.5.1 this seems not to work anymore ! LiveCode is now blocked totally, not even animat