Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread Pierre Sahores
What an informative great post, pedagogical and synthetic, to describe things, Andre ! Just want to add some details : RevServer makes us able to program multi-users cloud enabled web and saas solutions in following the best standards we will ever get to code in avoiding sad proprietary languag

Re: flcCalendar date formats (was: Beta Testers needed)

2012-05-24 Thread FlexibleLearning
It could easily do so if that is important to you. Let me know off-list the specific format/s you need. Hugh Senior FLCo william humphrey wrote: Does it return date in SQL format? -mm-dd ? > On 24 mei 2012, at 23:04, FlexibleLearning wrote: > > > flcCalendar is a popup palette that accur

flcCalendar algorithms (was: Beta Testers needed)

2012-05-24 Thread FlexibleLearning
Yes there are, Mark, but those I have found needed massaging to not only accurately calculate the day-of-week from a julian number but also display the changeover month with the missing days. Hugh Senior FLCo Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Hugh, There are algorithms around for perpetual calendars

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread stephen barncard
It's not that bad, Jim. Really. Very few of us are gurus - just empowered users, like you. The tools and the information are out there. Rev gave the revlet a good shot, imho, and they had to drop it to concentrate on what is more relevant for now. Andre's response says it all. One good thing is th

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Jim, I don't want to sound pessimistic but what I am going to tell is good advise on my opinion. Keep in mind it is my opinion only. Revlets were never a good option for mass deployment because it is hard to get the users to install a plugin. If you were working on some vertical market such as ed

Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display

2012-05-24 Thread Scott Morrow
Hello Graham, What about something like: on openCard send "GoToCard" && "Card2" to me in 4 seconds end openCard command GoToCard pCard go to card pCard end GoToCard regards, Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ e

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-24 Thread Paul Looney
Peter, Suppose there was a database built with LiveCode, that required no SQL, that worked with your data, that made your data multi-user, that provided encryption for the network, that ran really fast, that let you tweak your data and interface as you wished? Would this interest you? Paul Lo

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-24 Thread Bill Vlahos
Peter, So you have over 140,000 objects to search through and it does that in 20 seconds? How long does it take the LiveCode Find and Replace function to search all of that? Searching through all those objects in 20 seconds might not be all that bad considering that LiveCode does't handle lots

Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-24 Thread Jim Schaubeck
So the revlet concept is not getting any more attention and revserver is great if you know 5 other programming languages to get it right. I invested in livecode because of its web presence (actually it was the sales pitch of web apps that won me over). But I have officially given up on livecode

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread Bill Vlahos
William, That is the ListMagic stack which provides the table object in lcTaskList which is password protected. What happens if you open a New stack? If that works how about other stacks? It looks like there is something in your program or environment that is causing a problem for the table ob

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-24 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On May 24, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > Bill, > > I've been following the RunRev list comments about lcTaskList speed. > > For what it is worth > 1. I have 46 large stacks open on my desktop (just for testing, I don't work > this way) > 2. Some of these are substacks, most are main st

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/24/12 8:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Thursday, May 24, 2012, 4:38:06 PM, you wrote: Apple has great technology but they give you a hard time. Google makes your life easier and ships crappy emulators. There should be a middle ground. Giveing you a hard time and shipping crappy e

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Tim Jones
On May 24, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: >>> Speaking of Alligators, > >> YOU will be shot if you aren't careful. > > That's "shod"… Nope - all 'em 'gators was barefoot. You'll have to find your own. - this is getting very sad... Tim ___ u

Re: Age & Anniversary Calculations

2012-05-24 Thread Phil Davis
You are completely welcome! Sarah is one of the sharper knives in the drawer (and community-minded). I'm not sure if she still reads the list but she is missed. Phil On 5/24/12 5:09 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: Dear Phil, Thank you *so much* for this link: On 24/05/2012, at 10:51 AM,

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Tim Jones
On May 24, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > The middle ground was called webOS it had the following advantages on their > developer program: > * FREE Devices for Developers, just get in the line, you will get a free > device or a huge discount. > * No need to pay anything. > * Best document

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Thursday, May 24, 2012, 4:38:33 PM, you wrote: > On 5/24/12 6:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> Speaking of Alligators, > YOU will be shot if you aren't careful. That's "shod"... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Thursday, May 24, 2012, 4:38:06 PM, you wrote: >> Apple has great technology but they give you a hard time. Google makes >> your life easier and ships crappy emulators. > There should be a middle ground. Giveing you a hard time and shipping crappy emulators? That would be MicroSo... oh

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/24/12 6:23 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > >> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:03 PM, J. Landman Gay >> **wrote: >> >> I wasn't bold. I was scared not to. Eventually the balance tipped and I >>> took the plunge. But I'd definitely start with Androi

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Colin Holgate
We put that children's book app I made into the iOS app store easily, the Amazon store reasonably easily, but it took about three weeks of back and forth with Google to succeed in getting it into their store. Since it's been there I think two people have bought the app. On May 24, 2012, at 7:2

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Nicolas Cueto
> But I'd definitely start with Android if I were you, the Apple > swamp is much harder and there are alligators. Speaking as a non-professional programmer, most definitely true. The environment setup (both software and hardware), and then getting that first stack onto a mobile device -- it wa

Re: Age & Anniversary Calculations

2012-05-24 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
Dear Phil, Thank you *so much* for this link: On 24/05/2012, at 10:51 AM, Phil Davis wrote: > Another good resource for date & time calcs is Sarah Reichelt's DateTime.rev > library, which is pure LC: > >http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks > That is some very useful

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre Garzia writes: > I just reset my password... I tried opening RevOnline, it asked for the > login info, I tried everything to no avail then I just entered my email and > pressed the reset password thing. It sent me a new password by email with > special chars, it didn't work, I asked for a n

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/24/12 6:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Speaking of Alligators, YOU will be shot if you aren't careful. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecod

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/24/12 6:23 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:03 PM, J. Landman Gaywrote: I wasn't bold. I was scared not to. Eventually the balance tipped and I took the plunge. But I'd definitely start with Android if I were you, the Apple swamp is much harder and there are alligators.

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Speaking of Alligators, you heard about the blonde who went shopping for Alligator shoes down in Florida eh? NO? Well, she walks into this fancy shoe store and asks to see some Alligator shoes. The clerk gets her a few samples, but upon seeing the price tag, she exclaims, "Why these prices are w

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:03 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I wasn't bold. I was scared not to. Eventually the balance tipped and I > took the plunge. But I'd definitely start with Android if I were you, the > Apple swamp is much harder and there are alligators. Apple has great technology but they

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Andre Garzia writes: > > > Its available on RevOnline or > > How in the world did you manage to do that? I haven't been able to upload > anything to revOnline for months now. > I just reset my password... I tried opening RevOnline, it asked

Re: Question about the "copy files" tab on the Standalone Settings

2012-05-24 Thread Monte Goulding
On 25/05/2012, at 7:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Monte Goulding > wrote: > >> I don't think so. If you want the files at the root of your app then you >> have to make sure they aren't in a subdirectory under your app. A checkbox >> there would be nice. Place at r

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre Garzia writes: > Its available on RevOnline or How in the world did you manage to do that? I haven't been able to upload anything to revOnline for months now. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/24/12 10:13 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: I salute those brave pioneers such as Jacqueline who have boldly gone into tomorrow. I know that sooner or later I will have to start doing mobile development, so I think this will be what I need to ease me into that. I wasn't bold. I was scared not t

lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-24 Thread Paul Looney
Bill, I've been following the RunRev list comments about lcTaskList speed. For what it is worth 1. I have 46 large stacks open on my desktop (just for testing, I don't work this way) 2. Some of these are substacks, most are main stacks 3. I have two large, 2000+ lines, stack scripts open in the

Gatekeeper

2012-05-24 Thread stephen barncard
Here's a piece written about Apple's gatekeeper by one of the coders at Panic (creators of Coda) : http://www.panic.com/blog/2012/02/about-gatekeeper/ -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb _

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Bill. Just an update, I removed all other plugin's except yours, and I am still getting the same behavior. Next I will step through the code to see where it is failing. I can zero in on it pretty well, because I call a Spinner standalone as a hack way to provide a progress indicator in it's o

Re: Beta Testers needed

2012-05-24 Thread william humphrey
I was asking about the calendar plug in. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi William, > > I'm not sure whom you're asking, but if you're asking me, then I should > say that the format and the algorithm aren't connected in any way. > >

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread william humphrey
Then I followed instructions and opened it as a plugin. Worked fine except then I opened my stack and got: "There was an error executing a script in stack SSLMLib#1332006498. No more information is available because the stack is password protected." So I guess I won't be able to try this what sou

Re: Beta Testers needed

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi William, I'm not sure whom you're asking, but if you're asking me, then I should say that the format and the algorithm aren't connected in any way. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitte

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread william humphrey
If you open it without following instructions (open it as a stack). Then when you try to quit LiveCode crashes. It chocks on the locked nature of the project. Maybe you can have something that pops up when someone (like me) ignorantly clicks on it that warns it should be installed as a plugin? __

Re: Beta Testers needed

2012-05-24 Thread william humphrey
Does it return date in SQL format? -mm-dd ? On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Hugh, > > There are algorithms around for perpetual calendars. Would it be an idea > to use such an algorithm for your palette? > > -- > Best regards,

Re: Beta Testers needed

2012-05-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Hugh, There are algorithms around for perpetual calendars. Would it be an idea to use such an algorithm for your palette? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK:

Beta Testers needed

2012-05-24 Thread FlexibleLearning
flcCalendar is a popup palette that accurately supports and returns dates from January 1 AD. It needs road-testing both in terms of the UI and its implementation by the User. If you have an interest, please get in touch. Thank you. Hugh Senior FLCo ___

Re: [Slightly OT} iOS

2012-05-24 Thread Colin Holgate
My Xcode has a list of the 14 devices that have ever been connect to my machine for direct transfer of apps onto them. It would be a painfully crowded list if all 100 devices in my account were listed there too. On May 24, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: > >Thanks so much to Colin for

Re: Question about the "copy files" tab on the Standalone Settings

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > I don't think so. If you want the files at the root of your app then you > have to make sure they aren't in a subdirectory under your app. A checkbox > there would be nice. Place at root. Also maybe for folders it would be nice > if we coul

RE: [Slightly OT} iOS

2012-05-24 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks very much for the offer, I will certainly keep that in mind, since my apps tend to end up in schools who very often don't have the latest model of anything. Graham On Wed, 23 May 2012 18:32:52 -0400, "Ralph DiMola" wrote: > Graham, > > I have an iPad classic. If you ever need testin

[Slightly OT} iOS

2012-05-24 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks so much to Colin for this counterintuitive insight - why shouldn't Apple list all the devices one can work with, since they have access to the definitive list? Beats me. Matthias, I am already using AirLaunch, although so far I have only used it (via Dropbox) on my own network, since I w

Re: Question about the "copy files" tab on the Standalone Settings

2012-05-24 Thread Monte Goulding
I don't think so. If you want the files at the root of your app then you have to make sure they aren't in a subdirectory under your app. A checkbox there would be nice. Place at root. Also maybe for folders it would be nice if we could place contents at root. That would help me heaps when trying

Re: [OT] Saved by Dropbox Packrat

2012-05-24 Thread stephen barncard
I will, Andre! Thanks for the tip on the new Panic products. I love that company and those guys. Buying Coda 2 now. I, too was an early adopter and long time user of Audion. Long ago they published a (often funny) story on their site about their awkward meeting with Steve Jobs and how Audion al

Question about the "copy files" tab on the Standalone Settings

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Folks, When I am building for mobile and use the "Copy Files" tab to add files to my bundle, it always create the whole folder structure in the destination engine folder. I know I can set the defaultfolder to the same place where the files are and then add them without any referenced folder. I

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Colin, Congrats on the book! I am the first in line to purchase it! =) Cheers andre On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > For what it's worth, Packt do publish books on some pretty obscure and > specialized topics. If you check for Drupal as an example, there are 39 > books o

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Colin Holgate
For what it's worth, Packt do publish books on some pretty obscure and specialized topics. If you check for Drupal as an example, there are 39 books on that. They have 116 "beginners" titles. I don't know how they caught on to LiveCode, and my book is the only LiveCode book they are doing. So, n

Re: [OT] Mac Classic

2012-05-24 Thread Peter Haworth
It's also interesting that one of the main benefactors of Apple back in yhose days was Bill Gates who loaned them a huge amount of money (in excvhange for "considerations", I'm sure). Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Imagine the h

Re: [OT] Mac Classic

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
On 05/24/2012 06:39 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Imagine the howls if we tried to claim that OS 9 was a better OS for businesses than Win 7. The Mac would be dead now if not for Steve Jobs and OS X. Remember that almost every business analyst had Apple dead within 5 years just before Jobs came in wi

Re: [OT] Mac Classic

2012-05-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Imagine the howls if we tried to claim that OS 9 was a better OS for businesses than Win 7. The Mac would be dead now if not for Steve Jobs and OS X. Remember that almost every business analyst had Apple dead within 5 years just before Jobs came in with himself and the OS. Market share had sunk

Re: [OT] Mac Classic

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
On 05/24/2012 06:14 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Classic! She was sexy when she was young, but she couldn't keep up with me. I had to let her go. Yes, but some of us, ending up with a "love-gift" of several old-but-in-perfect-working-order G3 iMacs feel it is better to use them than shove them in

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
A little over 4200 lines of code in 15 cards. Bob On May 24, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: > Bob, > > How big is your project? How many lines of script? You can find that out by > looking at the Application Browser. Peter found 34,000 lines of code took 20 > seconds. > > I'd like to

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
On 05/24/2012 05:36 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: Bob, How big is your project? How many lines of script? You can find that out by looking at the Application Browser. Peter found 34,000 lines of code took 20 seconds. I'd like to hear from folks with really big stacks to see how long really large st

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
I removed the plugin and now everything runs again. I am going to take a wild leap here and say that it chokes when it encounters a locked library stack. I use sqlYoga which is locked. Any attempt to index this may be causing the failure. Bob On May 23, 2012, at 11:28 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

[ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, I am sharing a little plugin that I use everyday. It is called FileDrag and I don't remember if I shared it before. What it does it sit idle there and when you move your mouse into it, it replaces the text field with the file name of your topstack. Dragging the text field or the little file

Re: [OT] Mac Classic

2012-05-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Classic! She was sexy when she was young, but she couldn't keep up with me. I had to let her go. Bob On May 24, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Richmond wrote: > This is very useful: > > http://www.floodgap.com/software > > for both machines running Mac OS "Classic" versions, > > and for those of us usi

Re: Google alerts

2012-05-24 Thread Bernard Devlin
I'm glad to see this Colin (and I don't consider myself to be a beginner after decades of programming). But part of me doesn't want the big, wide world to know about Livecode. I guess that a fairly major publisher has taken an interest in Livecode shows that they think it has an edge when it comes

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-24 Thread Bill Vlahos
Bob, How big is your project? How many lines of script? You can find that out by looking at the Application Browser. Peter found 34,000 lines of code took 20 seconds. I'd like to hear from folks with really big stacks to see how long really large stacks take to index. Bill Vlahos

[OT] Mac Classic

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
This is very useful: http://www.floodgap.com/software for both machines running Mac OS "Classic" versions, and for those of us using PPC Mac. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, u

Re: [OT] Saved by Dropbox Packrat

2012-05-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Stephen, When you talk to them again please tell them that a a guy in Brazil thinks they are awesome and used their products since Audion (and still used Audion up until Lion stopped running it). By the way, have you seen the new Coda 2 and Diet Coda? Cheers andre On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:29 A

Re: Three-and-a-half ?

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
Calling all "Retro-Nutters", a.k.a. those still working with Mac OS 9 and downwards. These versions are the LAST ones that will make a Mac Classic standalone build. Do not be fooled by the icon at the top of the standalone builder for 4.0.0; that is a real red-herring. If, like me, you 'hoppe

Re: Three-and-a-half ?

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
On 05/24/2012 04:21 PM, Peter W A Wood wrote: Richmond On 24 May 2012, at 21:11, Richmond wrote: At one time it was possible to download RR/LC 3.5 from the RunRev website; maybe it still is, but I am quite unable to find the link. I found these two OS X links via Google and Nabble: Enterpri

Re: Three-and-a-half ?

2012-05-24 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richmond On 24 May 2012, at 21:11, Richmond wrote: > At one time it was possible to download RR/LC 3.5 from the RunRev website; > maybe it still is, but I am quite unable to find the link. I found these two OS X links via Google and Nabble: Enterprise http://developer.runrev.com/components/re

Three-and-a-half ?

2012-05-24 Thread Richmond
At one time it was possible to download RR/LC 3.5 from the RunRev website; maybe it still is, but I am quite unable to find the link. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage