Re: [On-rev] MySQL server offline?

2012-02-24 Thread Nicolas Cueto
It's working again. Phew. -- Nicolas Cueto On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Scott McDonald wrote: > Just went to do some work and am having the same problem. And yes, my account > is on thor as well. > > If it doesn't come up shortly we'll have to email the on-rev support. > > > - > -- > Sc

Re: [On-rev] MySQL server offline?

2012-02-24 Thread Scott McDonald
Just went to do some work and am having the same problem. And yes, my account is on thor as well. If it doesn't come up shortly we'll have to email the on-rev support. - -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" www.runrevplanet.com -- View this message in co

[On-rev] MySQL server offline?

2012-02-24 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Waited 1 hour before sending this... Anyone else getting a "MySQL server offline" message when accessing their on-rev account? Server Name is thor. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to su

Re: Cheap Android Tablet

2012-02-24 Thread Tim Jones
On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Ken Corey wrote: > On 24/02/2012 18:11, Tim Jones wrote: >> If you're searching for one to test your apps on, I would recommend either >> the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. Both are $200 and provide good >> performance and full Android support (except phone stuff).

Re: [OT] 100GB free cloud storage for Android

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Jacque, desktop integration for free accounts depends on which desktop... macs are just for paid accounts but I've seen so many people complaining that this might change. Windows integration is free. Cheers andre On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:42 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/24/12 10:06 PM, Andr

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 10:42 PM, ilsa wrote: To follow up, by putting "" into the Document Type standalone pref, folders are handled. However, then all files with any extension are also handled. The appleevent pID is "odoc" for both files and folders. I should be able to filter the apple event data to pi

Re: [OT] 100GB free cloud storage for Android

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 10:06 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, Box is pretty useful. Check out Box Apps at http://www.box.com/services and you will see integration with Desktop and lots of others services. Box API is very useful too. Isn't desktop integration only for paid accounts? I think free accounts ca

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread ilsa
To follow up, by putting "" into the Document Type standalone pref, folders are handled. However, then all files with any extension are also handled. The appleevent pID is "odoc" for both files and folders. I should be able to filter the apple event data to pick out what I want to operate on.

Re: [OT] 100GB free cloud storage for Android

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, Box is pretty useful. Check out Box Apps at http://www.box.com/services and you will see integration with Desktop and lots of others services. Box API is very useful too. IIRC Box allow you to share a folder(s) and/or file(s) with third-party users with password even if they don't have a b

Re: [OT] 100GB free cloud storage for Android

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Friday, February 24, 2012, 7:24:09 PM, you wrote: > Yes, I agree, used it many times for the same purpose. I actually prefer > Box over Dropbox, but maybe it's because of the things I need/want to do > with this type of storage. Depends. I've grown to rely on Dropbox. It solves problems f

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread ilsa
It worked when I put those extensions in the standalone prefs! And when I drag several files the full paths of all get put into the test field as paragraphs. Perfect. I put "JPEG" into the Doc Types field too but when I dragged a .png onto it, it also showed up, so fantastic! I appreciate all the h

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Pete
Reminds of the labelling on fireworks back in the UK "Light the blue touch paper and retire". Maybe that's a good one for the English like programming language disvussion. Pete On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Dar- > > Friday, February 24, 2012, 11:55:00 AM, you wrote: > >

Re: [OT] 100GB free cloud storage for Android

2012-02-24 Thread Pete
Yes, I agree, used it many times for the same purpose. I actually prefer Box over Dropbox, but maybe it's because of the things I need/want to do with this type of storage. Pete On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Mark- > > Thursday, February 23, 2012, 5:53:33 PM, you wrote: >

Re: [OT] 100GB free cloud storage for Android

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark- Thursday, February 23, 2012, 5:53:33 PM, you wrote: > Right. Once you're used to Dropbox, you don't want to use Box anymore. The Box makes a convenient place to put rehearsal recordings to share with band members, as does MediaFire. Please refrain from telling me what I want. -- -Mark Wi

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 6:15 PM, ilsa wrote: The app icon in the Dock doesn't hilite when I drag a jpg over it. When the app opens I get the "oapp" pID. I see, that's a whole different problem. You need to tell the OS that your app will accept jpgs, or any other file type you want to work with. You can do

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar- Friday, February 24, 2012, 11:55:00 AM, you wrote: > (Oh, by the way, Mark, this old teletype programmer can never > bring himself to use CR for the LiveCode newline.) Yeah, I mentally translate CR and LF to CRLF all the time. And I can't handle "return" as a synonym. "put tText & return" m

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Kay's mention of workarounds mirrors my own experience in many ways, esp. > with the need to embed arbitrary metadata in text runs. > > Hit the nail right on the head! And a response from Kevin... Who was it that posted something about a

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Friday, February 24, 2012, 1:24:26 PM, you wrote: > Yup! It's open sourced (Thank you very much Jerry and Trevor!) > and Mark Weider just updated it recently. ...and (sigh) just updated again to 1.0.13 to further hack around the menubar problem. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Michael Doub
As long as we are sharing debugging techniques, let me share what I am doing for IOS development. I created a launcher app that has a Global LogData buffer. The launcher app has a display window and 3 buttons. One button goes to a file in my dropbox that contains a list of URLs to the othe

Re: Cheap Android Tablet

2012-02-24 Thread Ken Corey
On 24/02/2012 18:11, Tim Jones wrote: If you're searching for one to test your apps on, I would recommend either the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. Both are $200 and provide good performance and full Android support (except phone stuff). From an off-brand point of view, EvoMax offers their

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Andre- > > Friday, February 24, 2012, 2:22:47 PM, you wrote: > > > Then you have added benefits... > > Also note that as of rev 2.9 "put" statments to the message box can be > redirected to a file. I forget the details off the top of my head,

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre- Friday, February 24, 2012, 2:22:47 PM, you wrote: > Then you have added benefits... Also note that as of rev 2.9 "put" statments to the message box can be redirected to a file. I forget the details off the top of my head, but I think it's in the 2.9 release notes. -- -Mark Wieder mwie.

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread ilsa
The app icon in the Dock doesn't hilite when I drag a jpg over it. When the app opens I get the "oapp" pID. ilsa On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/24/12 4:08 PM, ilsa wrote: >> >> Thanks, but it still doesn't work. Do I have to enable "dropability" >> somewhere, or en

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Michael Chean
I'm good for now, but let us know when it gets uploaded. Thanks Mike On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/24/12 4:05 PM, Michael Chean wrote: > >> I just want to point out that for an environment that emphasizes >> English-like phrases, they sure didn't bother >> to make

Re: ButtonGadget2

2012-02-24 Thread stephen barncard
A sure sign that Wordpress is finally stable and secure enough now... On 24 February 2012 14:52, Chipp Walters wrote: > Hey guys, > > We're actually in the middle of removing/replacing all Altuit websites with > WordPress versions. That's why many links aren't working right now. Thanks > for you

Re: ButtonGadget2

2012-02-24 Thread Chipp Walters
Hey guys, We're actually in the middle of removing/replacing all Altuit websites with WordPress versions. That's why many links aren't working right now. Thanks for you patience. -Chipp On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Mark- > > Thursday, February 23, 2012, 8:50:07 PM, you

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/24/12 3:39 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > >> That may have been I who mentioned log. >> > > I'm sure it must have been, you have lots of little tricks like that. I > just couldn't remember for sure. > > I've used Andre's method too, where you t

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 4:08 PM, ilsa wrote: Thanks, but it still doesn't work. Do I have to enable "dropability" somewhere, or enter some special standalone settings? You shouldn't have to do anything special. Did you put in some answer dialogs to see if the handler actually runs at all? It sounds like n

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 3:39 PM, Dar Scott wrote: That may have been I who mentioned log. I'm sure it must have been, you have lots of little tricks like that. I just couldn't remember for sure. I've used Andre's method too, where you toggle a constant, but I didn't post it because, like you, I couldn't

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 4:05 PM, Michael Chean wrote: I just want to point out that for an environment that emphasizes English-like phrases, they sure didn't bother to make there error messages fit that requirement. Just saying... :) They're in English in the IDE but you have to look them up otherwise. In

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > Is there any advantage of using a debug constant over commenting out the > body of the log? no advantage at all... actually, the commented version will run faster because it does not execute the if statement to check for constant value. The th

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Tim, Just checked the documentation at: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Miscellaneous/Reference/EntitlementKeyReference/AppSandboxTemporaryExceptionEntitlements/AppSandboxTemporaryExceptionEntitlements.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40011195-CH5-SW3 Yes you will be able to rece

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread ilsa
Thanks, but it still doesn't work. Do I have to enable "dropability" somewhere, or enter some special standalone settings? Thanks, ilsa On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/23/12 10:55 PM, ilsa wrote: >> >> Hi: >> >> Thanks. I was trying the below in my stack script, w

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Michael Chean
I just want to point out that for an environment that emphasizes English-like phrases, they sure didn't bother to make there error messages fit that requirement. Just saying... :) On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Bob Sneidar writes: > > > > > Point taken, but I think you a

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Dar Scott
Is there any advantage of using a debug constant over commenting out the body of the log? And, to add to the confusion of output possibilities, if I want to minimize the time impact or have other constraints, I log to a variable and then do something with the variable. Dar On Feb 24, 2012,

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread Tim Jones
I'll have to say negative to both of your assertions. There are a very broad number of applications that do not fit the model of the MAS and Apple knows this. As long as there are software stores, integration consultants, and non-home user customers, there will always be a "normal" channel for

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Well then screw the app store! I am starting to look sideways at Apple... > There will be a day in the not so distant future when if you don't sell your software on mac apple store, the mac users will never discover it (unless you're doing ve

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Jacque, I use something like constant kDebug = true on log pText if kDebug is true then put pText end if end log The good thing is that if I want to change from debug to release, I just change the kDebug constant value and the puts are gone. Cheers andre On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Dar Scott
That may have been I who mentioned log. Don't forget the newline or tab in the log handler. The method also allows adding timestamps or delta seconds. Though I said "log", I actually tend to use the word log for more permanent logging. The three letters can't be beat for shortness, though.

Re: Spell check for text fields

2012-02-24 Thread Scott McDonald
>Seems under the Future Field modifications they are allowing the >inline underlining of words I will be checking out this feature with interest. - -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" www.runrevplanet.com -- View this message in context: http://runtime-

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well then screw the app store! I am starting to look sideways at Apple... Bob On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > Folks, > > I think that AppleEvents are not authorized on the new Mac App Store rules > right? > > Silly Apple... > > Andre

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yup! It's open sourced (Thank you very much Jerry and Trevor!) and Mark Weider just updated it recently. Bob On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > Is GLX2 still available? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Plea

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Um... erm... yes well harumph why I DID know that. Bob On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > And... er... you *are* aware that glx2 already has this in the "Go" menu, > right? > > -- > Mark Wieder ___ use-livecode mailing list use-li

RE: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Ralph DiMola
Used the same technique in VB. Totally agree!! I add one option my logging routine. It opens up a file in the stack location named for the card that initiated the first logging request and it echoes the logging message with a time stamp. Very handy to see what happened and when after the fact. Ral

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 1:55 PM, Dar Scott wrote: I suspect we are all doing this the wrong way. Maybe there are debugging features or compiler optimizations that allow for better ways to do this. I've started doing it the way someone else suggested. I use a handler: on log pMsg put pMsg end log Then i

Re: Mobile - Can You Initiate A Call?

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 2:44 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Maybe this was already asked before but can you initiate a phone call from LiveCode on mobile? Use "launch url" with a "tel:" specifier. There's an example in the dictionary. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive S

RE: Mobile - Can You Initiate A Call?

2012-02-24 Thread Ralph DiMola
launch url "tel:" && "555-555-1212" On Android a back button will get you back to your still running app. In iOS not so goodyour app is closed. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev

Re: Mobile - Can You Initiate A Call?

2012-02-24 Thread Mike Bonner
For android you might try something like put "tel:" & tPhoneNum into tUrl launch url tUrl (based on a web search, as well as the thread here.. http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=10192&hilit=make+a+call+mobile Don't know anything about IOS so ymmv. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Sc

Mobile - Can You Initiate A Call?

2012-02-24 Thread Scott Rossi
Maybe this was already asked before but can you initiate a phone call from LiveCode on mobile? Thanks & Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > > Is GLX2 still available? https://bitbucket.org/mwieder/glx2/ Courtesy of Jerry and Mark =) -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. _

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-24 Thread Richmond
On 02/23/2012 11:20 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Thanks for the feedback so far guys. Andre: I also have that impression. Now, what can we do to get it up to speed? With Linux I am always unsure if I just forgot to install something that LC depends on. A simple example: Under UBUNTU an app of mine j

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread stephen barncard
I couldn't figure that one out for a Remo plugin I asked Jerry and he never responded. Thanks Bob! sqb On 24 February 2012 11:27, Mark Wieder wrote: > Bob Sneidar writes: > > > > > Anyone ever scripted a put to put something in the message box, and then > forgot it was there and had a > >

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Dar Scott
Good idea, Mark. But... Then you have to put 'put empty' at the top of the section tested. Easy to search for, though. Or clear the message box by hand. It would be nice to have a clear button on the message box. And a scroll bar. That way to you can accumulate several runs. You can put

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: I think that AppleEvents are not authorized on the new Mac App Store rules right? I hope that any limitation with Apple events is limited to sending them; for many years apps have been required to receive and respond to the odoc event as the means of opening apps. -- Ri

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 1:44 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, I think that AppleEvents are not authorized on the new Mac App Store rules right? I hadn't even thought of that. I bet you're right. I wonder if Automator will still ship with Mt Lion. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactives

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, I think that AppleEvents are not authorized on the new Mac App Store rules right? Silly Apple... Andre On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:24 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/23/12 10:55 PM, ilsa wrote: > >> Hi: >> >> Thanks. I was trying the below in my stack script, which I got from a >> Jacqui

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob Sneidar writes: > > Anyone ever scripted a put to put something in the message box, and then forgot it was there and had a > helluvatime finding it again? Nice, but no, a while back I stopped putting "put" statements in and replaced them with put xyzzy & cr after msg that way I just have

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Malte Brill
> There are many places where this is useful. Reporting for example. I bet Jan will love this :D Regarding Unicode. Live will get a lot easier with 5.5... A lot less jumping through hoops. The toughest part will be to remove the many (clockwise costy) workarounds. I think the future looks quite

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread John Craig
In a word - YES. I'll give this a try - thanks ;) Sent from my iPhone On 24 Feb 2012, at 18:49, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Anyone ever scripted a put to put something in the message box, and then > forgot it was there and had a helluvatime finding it again? I give you: > > function findPut theScri

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Marty Knapp
I've gotten in the habit of doing this: --TEST: put blah blah blah Then I can just do a search for "--TEST" and find the "put" and delete it. Not very high-tech, but it works for me. Marty K Anyone ever scripted a put to put something in the message box, and then forgot it was there and had

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Dar Scott
Cool! What about 'put something after message'? I sometimes make a long comment like '-- - !' after such lines. Sometimes, I make a command to log values that can be changed to output to the message box, stdout, the console, a file or a field and then c

Re: Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Bob, I think that Chipp had an altPlugin that would look everywhere on a stack and find those puts... =) On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Anyone ever scripted a put to put something in the message box, and then > forgot it was there and had a helluvatime finding it again?

Stray Puts

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Anyone ever scripted a put to put something in the message box, and then forgot it was there and had a helluvatime finding it again? I give you: function findPut theScript filter theScript without "* into *" filter theScript without "* before *" filter theScript without "* after *"

Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/23/12 10:55 PM, ilsa wrote: Hi: Thanks. I was trying the below in my stack script, which I got from a Jacquie message on the list: global gFP on appleEvent pClass, pID if pClass is "aevt" and pID is "odoc" then -- the file path is in the appleEvent data request appleEvent

Re: Cheap Android Tablet

2012-02-24 Thread Tim Jones
Hi Al, If you're searching for one to test your apps on, I would recommend either the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. Both are $200 and provide good performance and full Android support (except phone stuff). From an off-brand point of view, EvoMax offers their 10.2" for $139, but it's resisti

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 10:54 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Wait didn't Jacque come up with a way to do this? No. I came up with an easy way to move apps to a device from within LiveCode. But iOS will not allow uncertified apps to run, and because of that, LiveCode itself won't even compile an iOS standalone wit

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob Sneidar writes: > > Point taken, but I think you are mistaken on one point. You cannot put anything into a property Yes, a more appropriate (and real-world) example would have been put theVersion into tVar vs put the Version into tVar > I have trained my monkey brain to avoid that for th

Re: What's the "right" way to do modules under iOS

2012-02-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/24/12 6:13 AM, Ken Corey wrote: For #1, I'm envisioning being able to download each module as a separate standalone, and open it as a substack from within the Login module. Is that the way it should work, or is there a better way? Well, you can't open standalones as substacks. The way to

Re: Cheap Android Tablet

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Scott, I think that archos offers some "iPod Touch" like devices with Android. I checked their side and there are offerings from 2.8'' to 10'', you should be able to pick some resolution that you want. Since you mentioned the touchPad, I got one and I will never trade it for Android or iOS... but

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > In such niche applications there may be a need for an embedded word > processor, a way for the user to write and format styled text. This won't > be a replacement for Word or OO, but instead is an integrated part of an > app that serves a d

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Jim Schaubeck
Excellent answer...very funny...made my day!     jim schaubeck   714.321.4499 From: Devin Asay To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming? On Feb 24, 2012, at 12:

Re: copy-paste and Japanese text

2012-02-24 Thread Dar Scott
Perhaps the data is put onto the clipboard in multiple styles. Perhaps the different applications look at different styles in different orders. The LiveCode clipboardData property might be useful in seeing what is actually put on the clipboard in a copy. If need be, you can use that to contro

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wait didn't Jacque come up with a way to do this? Bob On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Ken Corey wrote: > If you want to use Livecode, no. > > You may register as an Apple Developer for free, but that only allows you to > run code on the simulator. If you want to put it on the iPad, even if onl

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Point taken, but I think you are mistaken on one point. You cannot put anything into a property, you can only set a property. "put the foreColor of me into the FgColor" will cause the compiler to come to a screeching halt, as will set the foreColor to the fgColor, because I haven't supplied the

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Pete
Try looking at the younger generation's text messages some time! On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > > Jacque- > > > > Thursday, February 23, 2012, 7:20:40 PM, you wrote: > > > >>> set foreColor of fld "myField" to blue > >

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Pete
I long ago gave up using MsWord and, more recently, Open Office. Google Docs is my first choice for WP needs (and spreadsheets, presentations). I can see a lot of use for the new features, not in producing a full blown word processor, but definitely in embedding wp-like functionality where needed

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
Kevin, Unicode chunks will definitely be useful. I'll have to test this feature, but if it works then it might be worth the €99 for a license update. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Because a statement has to be true or not in order to proceed. This is the very point the instructor in the video was making about the ambiguity of natural languages and their inability to be properly implemented in a development language. Do you mean the field object itself, or do you mean the

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Kevin Miller
LiveCode is for verticals, of which there are many to which it is greatly suited. The new field features support those and there is a much more flexibility in there now, not least the textChanged message allowing a great deal of custom control. However we would not recommend it for developing the n

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Friday, February 24, 2012, 8:23:47 AM, you wrote: > I even put it before most variables because "into theFgColor" is > more readable to me. I was with you up to that point. I find that using the "the" prefix is more error-prone that the shorthand form of "t" even though it's less immediatel

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
This takes us back to what I originally said, that writing compact code is at odds with the goals of Hypertext based languages. Language-like code has things like pronouns, determiners, prepositions etc. It is by nature verbose. If we had to write everything including the engine and the event ma

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Aye but he wanted shorthand. I always use THE where I can, even when referring to cursors :-). I even put it before most variables because "into theFgColor" is more readable to me. Bob On Feb 23, 2012, at 7:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/23/12 6:46 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> set foreC

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
God save us from that. I think this underscores why the A in AI is a misnomer. The Intelligence behind how any computer behaves will always be a person, deciding what things a computer can do in response to input and when. That Intelligence is anything but artificial. Bob On Feb 23, 2012, at

Re: Why him does not use a natural language for programming?

2012-02-24 Thread Devin Asay
On Feb 24, 2012, at 12:34 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Jacque- > > Thursday, February 23, 2012, 7:20:40 PM, you wrote: > >>> set foreColor of fld "myField" to blue > > I'll double down on your rant. > > Since when is "fld" easier to read than "field"? You save typing two > vowels and end up with

Re: Anomoly when storing empty values into SQLite integer fields

2012-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
For basic things, using SQL to check for consistency is acceptable I suppose. But how would you use SQL to verify a phone number was properly formatted based upon whether or not it was international? How about a valid zip code depending on the country? How about a reservation, making sure it doe

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread Medard
Colin Holgate wrote: > If the overall goal is to be able to use your own stack on your iPad Thanks -- but the goal is to use a "stack" on the iPad, away from home ;-) Nonetheless, thank you for the pitch :-) I took a look at Codeo/Lua: seems interesting! Sigh... How about a "light" LiveCode.ap

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 24.02.2012 at 16:07 Uhr +0100 Mark Schonewille apparently wrote: So... then we will be able to use these new features to their full capacitiies when unicode gets finally implemented correctly. I agree, that could be nice... -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Unicode is not required to us

Re: Cheap Android Tablet

2012-02-24 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All, Does exists a website that review Android devices from a developer standpoint, not from the consumer's point of view? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cheap-Android-Tablet-tp3808843p4417676.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing li

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread Roger Eller
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > The apps I referred to do show you the cursor, it's literally you looking > at your computer screen, only using touch to operate things. I'm sending > this message using Mail on my MacBook Air, but I'm typing on my iPad > screen, using Remot

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: The right tool for the job is subjective. I use LiveCode for everything I build. Perhaps replacing MS Word for everyone in the world be a bold challenge, but many people would opt for simplicity. An RTF based editor is still a word processor, and would definitely meet all o

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Corey wrote: On 24/02/2012 14:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: With 5.5 it's now possible to make a decent word processor, and a few hundred other things besides A word processor!?!?! Aren't we straying a little far from the right-tool-for-the-job territory here? Especially with something

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread Colin Holgate
The apps I referred to do show you the cursor, it's literally you looking at your computer screen, only using touch to operate things. I'm sending this message using Mail on my MacBook Air, but I'm typing on my iPad screen, using Remotix. ___ use-livec

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Roger Eller
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Ken Corey wrote: > On 24/02/2012 14:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> With 5.5 it's now possible to make a decent word processor, and a few >> hundred other things besides >> > > A word processor!?!?! > > Aren't we straying a little far from the right-tool-for-th

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Ken Corey
On 24/02/2012 14:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: With 5.5 it's now possible to make a decent word processor, and a few hundred other things besides A word processor!?!?! Aren't we straying a little far from the right-tool-for-the-job territory here? Especially with something with such religio

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread Roger Eller
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > If the overall goal is to be able to use your own stack on your iPad, > another option would be to remote control your computer screen. If you use > either Desktop Connect, or Remotix, it's amazing how well you can operate > any applications

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Richard, Yes, LiveCode has features that RealStudio doesn't have, but I was talking about full unicode compliance only. I do have a license for RealStudio and like it a lot, but I still use LiveCode for many projects. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Softwar

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Mark Schonewille
So... then we will be able to use these new features to their full capacitiies when unicode gets finally implemented correctly. I agree, that could be nice... -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http:/

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Schonewille wrote: > Richard, > > The point is that all those extra features make very little sense as > long as unicode doesn't just work, like it does in RealStudio. > LiveCode really is very much behind the competition in this regard. They may not make sense to you, but they make sense t

Re: [OT] LC's Fields of the Future

2012-02-24 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 24.02.2012 at 13:03 Uhr +0100 Mark Schonewille apparently wrote: No improvements with regard to RTL languages. No "unicode that just works" :-( -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Not yet, but this introduces a number of long requested and needed features and at least all the new features

Re: A simple question about LiveCode and iOS

2012-02-24 Thread Colin Holgate
If the overall goal is to be able to use your own stack on your iPad, another option would be to remote control your computer screen. If you use either Desktop Connect, or Remotix, it's amazing how well you can operate any applications on your computer. Remotix is far better than Desktop Connect

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