Re: Session strategies for liveCode server

2012-01-19 Thread Malte Brill
Thanks to sturgis from the forums I got it working now. The missing link was that the session needs to be stopped before the script terminates. This is a working example: Happy camper now. :-) Cheers, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecod

best 404 ever

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
All- Now that boingboing's back online they've got a pointer to the best 404 page ever: http://kvartirakrasivo.ru/404/index.php -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 9:43:47 PM, you wrote: > Wow! The icons alone are worth the price. I'm a happy customer. Amir keeps making this better and the updates are free and it looks great. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-l

Application quit on OS X

2012-01-19 Thread Pete
It seems that when you close the main stack window in an LC standalone application on OS X, the application terminates. That doesn't seem like normal behavior for an OS X application, at least not the ones I'm familiar with. Maybe there's no right or wrong on this and it's a function of the appli

Re: OSX 10.7 app corruption issue

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Judd
Right - lot's of things appear to have gone missing from the corrupted app. The original file/folder structure looks like this... Curriculum Connect.app Contents MacOS revpdpprinter.bundle Externals

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Judd
Ooh, I like the look of this. Thanks for the link Mark. Terry... On 20/01/2012, at 04:43 PM, Pete wrote: Wow! The icons alone are worth the price. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Wieder mailto:mwie...@ahsoftware.net>> wrote: And speaking of prototyping, I'd really be remiss if I didn't

Re: OSX 10.7 app corruption issue

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Judd
More info - it's just the Livecode app that is affected. After it's run on 10.7 it ceases to work on either 10.6. or 10.7 and has lost it's app icon. Trying to get hold of a copy of the corrupted app so I can have a look inside the app folder. Terry... On 20/01/2012, at 04:18 PM, Terry Judd w

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Pete
Wow! The icons alone are worth the price. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > And speaking of prototyping, I'd really be remiss if I didn't mention > Keynotopia: > > < > http://keynotopia.com/keynotopia-3-0-pixel-perfect-components-and-royalty-free-icons/?utm_source=Keynotopia

OSX 10.7 app corruption issue

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Judd
I'm getting reports from a beta tester that a Mac app that is deployed on a USB stick is becoming corrupted after being run under 10.7 (runs fine on 10.6) - apparently the problem has been replicated a number of time. I don't have`10.7 installed to test this out myself. Any ideas on what might b

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
Whoa! Is there yet another Padawan among us? ;-) seriously though, how cool would that be? Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Richmond- > > Thursday, January 19, 2012, 1:57:45 PM, you wrote: > >> Note the loaded language; "get honest feedback" - and what, pr

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
And speaking of prototyping, I'd really be remiss if I didn't mention Keynotopia: -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 1:57:45 PM, you wrote: > Note the loaded language; "get honest feedback" - and what, pray tell, > will make feedback > their way, in some way, more honest than, say, my scribbling something > with a pencil and paper > in a restaurant? I have a hard time seei

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Kay C Lan
Is there one above VERY ;-) On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Pete wrote: > So how would you characterise your view Kay? VERY opinionated or only > MILDLY so? Just curious... > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Kay C Lan > wrote: > > > IMO I think the VERY opinionated views of this thread ab

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Richmond wrote: > > What I fail to understand, is, having bothered to take the trouble to > build a "prototype" > in Livecode (especially one that does all that you want it to), what > possible advantage > can there be to then move to some other language/RAD/whatev

Re: Beating the dock

2012-01-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/19/12 7:45 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Ugh. I will just learn to unlearn old habits instead of installing new software. I was just hoping it was a feature I could disable. I never use Cmd-Tab. Like you, I was hard-coded to Cmd-tab. I know LiveCode has its own shortcuts for changing tools

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Pete
So how would you characterise your view Kay? VERY opinionated or only MILDLY so? Just curious... On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: > IMO I think the VERY opinionated views of this thread about what a UI > should be go along way in explaining why Apple products have been so > su

Re: Find oddity?

2012-01-19 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:24 AM, wrote: > I understand that prudent monitoring of "the result" will allow one to > distinguish the difference. We need an autoFindtFromTop property (heck, > every other conceivable property exists natively). > > With all respect I don't agree. A quick check of a co

Re: Beating the dock

2012-01-19 Thread dunbarx
Colin. It is just long-learned fingering. I am constantly (nearly) doing this. Bob: Ugh. I will just learn to unlearn old habits instead of installing new software. I was just hoping it was a feature I could disable. I never use Cmd-Tab. Craig -Original Message- From: Colin Hol

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Kay C Lan
Hi Bob, Everything you say if perfectly valid, and believe me, I'm only now starting to comprehend how incomprehensible the task is that RunRev have chosen;-) to make a multi-platform RAD. I really feel for the company when, after enormous amounts of manpower have transformed HyperCard into someth

Re: Beating the dock

2012-01-19 Thread Colin Holgate
You do know that it's not just a local version of the Dock? You can command-tab or shift-tab cycle through the apps, you can quit any one of them without having to switch to the app first. You can use the mouse to select which of the apps you're trying to switch to or quit. The old advantage of

Re: Beating the dock

2012-01-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
http://raamdev.com/2007/replace-os-x-commandtab-with-witch/ I just googled it. Google is your friend. Bob On Jan 19, 2012, at 3:56 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: > > > In HC, I am used to hitting Cmd-Tab one, two or three times to select tools. > In OSX, Cmd-Tab selects a ghost dock that > plop

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have likened LC to a constructor set before, something like Legos. To make special things, you need special bricks. (Your native widgets) You do not get to make the special thing you want unless you have the special bricks you need, or else can cheese some other bricks together in a kludge of

Beating the dock

2012-01-19 Thread dunbarx
In HC, I am used to hitting Cmd-Tab one, two or three times to select tools. In OSX, Cmd-Tab selects a ghost dock that plops down right in front of the screen. It is supposed to be a shortcut. LC cannot see the commandKeyDown message when Cmd-Tab is pressed, though it catches other combinatio

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think they are saying that someone who you are face to face with, looking at your mockup might be inclined to flatter you, whereas someone behind the anonymity of the digital firewall could be more honest in their criticism than otherwise. Not saying I agree, just saying that might be the tho

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Pete
Hi SCott, You're right of course, it is possible to go custom and tmcontrol no doubt provides a good way of doing that. Just seems like there are so many controls in OS X now that aren't present in Livecode that it would be a huge amount of work to make custom versions of them all ( at least for a

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Richmond
On 01/19/2012 11:38 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:10:35 PM, you wrote: What I fail to understand, is, having bothered to take the trouble to build a "prototype" in Livecode (especially one that does all that you want it to), what possible advantage can there b

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Pete wrote: > Speaking from the perspective of a Mac user, it's impossible to > build an app whose ui doesn't look dated. Maybe not 100% impossible -- an alternative is to go custom: http://tmtools.tactilemedia.com/tmcontrol Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX De

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Richmond
On 01/19/2012 11:38 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:10:35 PM, you wrote: What I fail to understand, is, having bothered to take the trouble to build a "prototype" in Livecode (especially one that does all that you want it to), what possible advantage can there b

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:10:35 PM, you wrote: > What I fail to understand, is, having bothered to take the trouble to > build a "prototype" > in Livecode (especially one that does all that you want it to), what > possible advantage > can there be to then move to some other languag

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Judd
On 20/01/2012, at 08:28 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Terry- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:46:38 PM, you wrote: Agreed - it's almost a great add-on, but ... severely restrict its usability. ...and linux... Linux? What's that ? ;) -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Terry- Thursday, January 19, 2012, 12:46:38 PM, you wrote: > Agreed - it's almost a great add-on, but ... severely restrict its > usability. ...and linux... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.ru

Re: Find oddity?

2012-01-19 Thread dunbarx
Jacque. I see what you are saying. This business of "stopping at the end" even if there is only one instance of text to be found in only one field. But it still means that LC, knowing that if there is boxed text somewhere, and no other text in a different location forthcoming, decides to, at l

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread Warren Samples
On 01/19/2012 04:20 AM, tkuyp...@telenet.be wrote: it's kinda annoying to always have their website open when surfing the internet, accidentally closing my music when closing to many windows. Can't you just open it in it's own window and hide/minimize it? Park it on another desktop/workspa

Re: Session strategies for liveCode server

2012-01-19 Thread Malte Brill
Michael, thanks for getting back! I am afraid I do not have it working yet. :-( I now tried this: And always get a session counter of 1. Maybe I must solve this differently. :-( Cheers, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.run

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread Terry Judd
On 20/01/2012, at 2:08 AM, "Mike Bonner" wrote: > Got it to work with on win 7, livecode 5.0.2 using revbrowser but a script > error pops up. The stream still works for me though. the script error does > NOT show when using a regular old browser. > > Like Andre, i've had a mixed bag with revbro

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread tkuypers
Hi Matthias, Just tried RodeoApps, but the same thing happens... The page is loaded, but no sound... I guess it must be a Mac-oddity :-( Met vriendelijke groeten, Warm Regards, Ton Kuypers +32 (0) 477 739 530 Aardbemden 11 • B-2400 • Mol • Belgium www.publishingtools4u.com ___

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hey Pete. Obviously you're right. I remember how much I hated System 8.0 when it first came out. It's the "old dog/new tricks" thing again. Wait until my book "Death is a Myth©" comes out. Will people continue to die once they understand that they don't have to? Please no response to this on the

Re: Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I used to do "prototypes" with HC and then code the apps in VisualBasic and FutureBasic (very compatible); however, had I "done the prototypes" in LC, which was not available at the time, I would have continued, as Richmond suggests, tweaking and improving the Code until I had the Windows and Ma

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Pete
I don't disagree with you, just saying that there are users out there who, consciously or unconsciously, judge part of the quality of an app by the "state-of-the-art-ness" of its ui. Apple and Microsoft will continue to evolve their user interface whether we like it or not. A prime example of tha

Prototyping

2012-01-19 Thread Richmond
I had a look at the Jolt thing. As it says, Livecode is good for prototyping insofar as one can get something working very very quickly indeed in Livecode. What I fail to understand, is, having bothered to take the trouble to build a "prototype" in Livecode (especially one that does all that

Re: Session strategies for liveCode server

2012-01-19 Thread Michael Kann
Malte, Here's the working code for php, if that helps. Notice that session_start() comes before anything else, including WORKING CODE: --- On Thu, 1/19/12, Malte Brill wrote: From: Malte Brill Subject: Re: Session strategies for liveCode s

Re: Session strategies for liveCode server

2012-01-19 Thread Michael Kann
Malte, You've probably got this running by now, which I've failed to do. But I'll make a suggestion anyway. Perhaps some headers are being sent out before the line "start session". If that is the case then it won't work. Let us know if you untangle it. Mike --- On Thu, 1/19/12, Malte Brill w

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Richmond
On 01/19/2012 09:17 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Speaking from the perspective of someone who likes to get work done: I feel that too many innovations in the user interface can be a major turn-off. This is why I still use Appleworks 6 for Macintosh as my Primary Word-Processor, and "fairly sh

Re: [Ticket#2012011810000736] Re: RevOnline

2012-01-19 Thread Richmond
Dear Heather, Thanks for your swift reply. > Dear Richmond, > > OK, define "didnae wark". 'define' is perhaps the wrong word here, as it didnae wark. Possibly 'explain how it didnae wark' wid be better . . . :) > What happened when you tried? 1. I clicked on "Log In" in the top right-hand

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread stephen barncard
Wait a minute - *Livecode at Macworld*? this is great news...and now a good reason to go... When was the last time LIvecode were there? 2003 - I was there - (a little booth in the developers section) and met Jacque for the first time. Some young guy was there too... was that Kevin? I think I bou

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Speaking from the perspective of someone who likes to get work done: I feel that too many innovations in the user interface can be a major turn-off. My favorite CAD program uses many of the same tools that were a part of the original MacDraw program; greatly enhanced and more powerful, but much

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Pete
I agree. Speaking from the perspective of a Mac user, it's impossible to build an app whose ui doesn't look dated. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Native widgets would be nice on the desktop, too, but I'm not holding > my breath. > -- Pete Molly's Revenge

Re: Find oddity?

2012-01-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/19/12 11:34 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Kay. Interesting, but I did not mean to cloud the issue. I was just fooling around, So you do see that, with a single instance of text in a field, successive find commands will alternately box and then unbox the foundtext? To me, this is a bug.

Re: Find oddity?

2012-01-19 Thread dunbarx
Kay. Interesting, but I did not mean to cloud the issue. I was just fooling around, So you do see that, with a single instance of text in a field, successive find commands will alternately box and then unbox the foundtext? To me, this is a bug. Craig -Original Message- From: Kay

Android Orientation change artifacts

2012-01-19 Thread Ralph DiMola
When running on the device, I receive the resizestack message. I resize and move all controls on the card then pass the message. When the screen in redrawn in the new orientation there is 1 or 2 pixel wide random noise to the right from top to bottom of all images(most but not all of the time). My

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
AndyP- Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 10:30:16 PM, you wrote: > Hi Mark, > This was announced in newsletter 126. That's funny. I never even looked at the front page of the newsletter, just went straight for the articles. I wonder what else I've been missing? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Kay- Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 8:31:12 PM, you wrote: > sort of puts a fizzer on things. I don't think RunRev want to be known as a > prototyping tool, for the real job to be done by a real tool, so hopefully > they are nose to grindstone working on sorting out those "native widgets > and reso

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread Mike Bonner
Got it to work with on win 7, livecode 5.0.2 using revbrowser but a script error pops up. The stream still works for me though. the script error does NOT show when using a regular old browser. Like Andre, i've had a mixed bag with revbrowser. A few things work smashingly well, then theres everyth

Re: Session strategies for liveCode server

2012-01-19 Thread Malte Brill
Anyone, pretty please? Andre, Stephen? I just do not get it. I have a login form now and that one calls a liveCode script to validate the user and start a session: start" else include "login.html" end if end if ?> As soon as I click the start link the session ap

Re: looking for new iOS device, anyone recommends iPod Touch?

2012-01-19 Thread Andrew Henshaw
Hi Andre, I lucky enough to have them all, and id agree the original 3G is now too slow. I keep it so I can test the worst case, but its slow. If you have an original iPad however, Id just use that and compile the app as an iPhone only app to force it to emulate the iPhone. Its almost iden

Re: revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Ton, i am pretty sure, that this is not want you want to hear. I do not use revBrowser anymore, because it is not possible to create reliable apps with it. That is not a complaint, just a fact. But if you are on Mac you could try Jerry Daniels RodeoAppMaker instead, which is able to create a

revBrowser & sound

2012-01-19 Thread tkuyp...@telenet.be
Maybe somewhat silly, but who can shed a light on this. My favorite radiostation switched from an iTunes stream to a webstream for their internet broadcast. This means I need to open my browser all the time to listen to the music and it's kinda annoying to always have their website open when sur

Re: Jolt Award

2012-01-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Exactly my thoughts, Kay! -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 19 jan 201