Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Gerry Orkin
You and your wife are a very small sample. But I'm glad you found a phone that works for you (so have I - it's an iPhone). And honestly, arguing for the superiority of a phone based on the numbers sold is just bad science. Lot's of factors (personal preference, carrier choice, cost, product loya

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Gerry Orkin
Chipp If parts of your messages are off limits for a response then help me by marking them as such :) There's nothing personal about my comments. We are ALL ill-informed when it comes to speculation about unannounced products. There's all sorts of noise and nonsense in the lead up, some of it

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Pete
My wife and I just upgraded our phones (with Verizon). We each had a Droid Eris and I have to say they sucked. I upgraded to an HTC Incredible and my wife got an iPhone 4. I am extremely happy with my Incredible - it is a huge advance over the Eris in every way. I have had it for about a month n

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Gentlemen, This thread is similar to the Windows vs. Mac debates here that sometimes got out of hand. Since Livecode supports both mobile platforms, don't you think this name-calling bullshit should stop? I spent an hour writing a 'rebuttal' and finally decided to NOT post it. It would just fan t

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Admin
Bill, I could not disagree more. My Iphone crashed constantly and had to be rebooted all the time. My wife's BRAND NEW itouch 4 - same thing. My HTC Evo - NEVER has a problem. Never. Great battery life with a nice large battery I purchased for it. Outstanding in every way. You are a FOOL if

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Again I request we cut back on the passive-aggressive stuff. It's just a goddamn phone. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pleas

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Bill Vlahos
I haven't used an Android but the people at work who have personal ones say they like them but find that they are buggy and need to be restarted frequently. The ones that have them like them because they can tinker more with them but even they say we shouldn't support them. It reminds me of the

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Gerry, No need to get personal. I suppose you're new about these parts. I'm asking for opinions regarding the iPhone vs Android. I certainly wasn't asking your opinion of my expectations. Clearly you're a fan of Apple. Good for you. On Tuesday, October 4, 2011, Gerry Orkin wrote: > Chipp wrote:

Re: Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Gerry Orkin
Whoops. That's auto-correction for you :) g On 05/10/2011, at 1:00 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > deprecated ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription prefere

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Gerry Orkin
Chipp wrote: > it was pretty well known there was SUPPOSED to be a 4 and a 5, only they > just announced the 4. Supposed to be? According to whom? Apple, or the zillions of blogs and pundits and "analysts"? Don't blame Apple for not meeting your ill-informed expectations :) Gerry

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Admin
I owned a Apple Iphone 3g and my wife owns a touch 4 and the newest touch with better video. I now own a HTC Evo (not the 3D one) with an expanded battery. I also own an Android tablet and an Ipad2. OK, where do I begin? First, I like the Ipad2 better for creating music and editing vide

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, stephen barncard wrote: > Funny that this comes up at this moment - I've been trying to work with a > 'Directory Walker' recursive script (thanks Scott Rossi) and really can't > make it very useful Just a little clarification: I didn't create the directory walker script. I don't recall

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Chipp Walters
C'mon guys! Haven't you been following the blogs and build up for iPhone 5? it was pretty well known there was SUPPOSED to be a 4 and a 5, only they just announced the 4. Steven, yes the iPhone is a very nice device, only this version isn't all that much different from a 4 (purely functional point

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
why is this phone a turd, Chipp? Tell us how you really feel. I've got an "old" 3 (non-gs) now and planning an upgrade. The 3 a turd, I'm no fan-boy, but I really don't want an Android. I'm going to switch to Verizon anyway. On 4 October 2011 19:44, Chipp Walters wrote: > Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh

Mapview, gps, markers

2011-10-04 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Hi, With the location events and all on iOS, do we have a way of showing where we are, and add some "pins" (with text, and remove them). I couldn't find it, does anybody have a workaround? Best regards, Maarten ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecod

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh. All psyched up about the iPhone 5, and Apple lays > this turd. So disappointing. Jeez, didn't take them long to screw things up > now that Jobs is gone. > > Now, I'm considering upgrading my iPhone 4 to Android. Anyone

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
If they had called it the iPhone 5, everyone would still be impressed. The iPhone 4 is an amazing phone, and the iPhone 4S is better in almost every way it could be. So that makes it be a bit better than you're suggesting. On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Apple iPhone 4s--

new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Apple iPhone 4s-- ugh. All psyched up about the iPhone 5, and Apple lays this turd. So disappointing. Jeez, didn't take them long to screw things up now that Jobs is gone. Now, I'm considering upgrading my iPhone 4 to Android. Anyone have experience with both and can offer advice? -- Chipp Walte

RE: Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Ralph DiMola
I had previously tried==>mobileBuildInfo("SERIAL") and my Droid X returns error "219,37,21,mobileinfo 465,37,1". I tried several other mobileBuildInfo properties and they worked OK. I am trying to get some Unique ID to verify the device for licensing a b2b app. Seeing there are no externals for An

Re: Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
Some online have noted that the word is "deprecated". You shouldn't use iPhonePhotoPick, it's deprecated, use mobilePhotoPick instead. But iPhonePhotoPick still works. There's reason to hope that UDID will continue to work, even if it's not recommended. On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:42 PM, Gerry Orkin

Re: Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Gerry Orkin
As of iOS 5 Apple have depreciated the UDID. I expect RunRev will remove the ability to read USIDs in a future update. Gerry -- Sent from my iPhone. On 05/10/2011, at 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > You could ask the user for their number. I would bet that it's not possible > to get the

Re: Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
You could ask the user for their number. I would bet that it's not possible to get the number programmatically, if it was possible people could then make apps that sent your number to all the telemarketers on earth. The Objective-C call to get an iOS device ID is like this: [[UIDevice currentDe

Re: Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > Does anyone know how to get either the ID of the mobile device or > preferably > the phone number in LC? > > Thanks > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 > Cell: 518-796-9332 Look at m

Get a Mobile Unique ID iOS and Android

2011-10-04 Thread Ralph DiMola
Does anyone know how to get either the ID of the mobile device or preferably the phone number in LC? Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Ben, this is a great solution -- works perfectly --still trying to break it. I love it. No shell, no extensions, a pure LIvecode solution. Also it's very fast. Thanks very much. On 4 October 2011 10:33, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > On 04/10/2011 15:54, stephen barncard wrote: > >> Another question

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/04/2011 10:39 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Clearly they think you don't need it. I wonder how they worked out I was so desperate . . . :) On Oct 4, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Did I miss yet another "enhancement" email?? This is getting to be insulting! ;-) __

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
Clearly they think you don't need it. On Oct 4, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Did I miss yet another "enhancement" email?? This is getting to be insulting! > ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this ur

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
are we moderated yet? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:22 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > politics, religion, cheese and sex > > On 4 October 2011 12:19, Warren Samples wrote: > > > On 10/04/2011 02:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > > > >> but it doesn't replace Viagra >

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
politics, religion, cheese and sex On 4 October 2011 12:19, Warren Samples wrote: > On 10/04/2011 02:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > >> but it doesn't replace Viagra >> > > > I'm sure there are some... > > > Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Tim Cook and Phil Schiller did a good presentation today. Cook could be mistaken as Jobs' older similarly birdlike, incredibly thin brother. one more thing: the prices: 4s 16gig - $200/2year 4s 32gig - $300/2 4s 64gig - $400/2 4 8 gig - $99/2 3Gs 8 gig "free with plan" still selling the older

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Warren Samples
On 10/04/2011 02:13 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: but it doesn't replace Viagra I'm sure there are some... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription pref

[ANN] LiveCode.tv event #38

2011-10-04 Thread Björnke von Gierke
After a lack of volunteers forced the event into a summer vacation, it has come back sun tanned and ready to rock. Mario Miele will introduce his 2.0 update to his style palette add-on. It allows the creation and organisation of different custom button styles, making skinning your application m

Re: new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Sounds great Stephen, but it doesn't replace Viagra (yet!) Joe Wilkins On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:03 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > watching apple announcement on CNN on the iPad > > Just announced: iPhone 4s > > new A5 dual core processor > 7x graphics speed > real-time rendering in a game shown

new iPhone 4s

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
watching apple announcement on CNN on the iPad Just announced: iPhone 4s new A5 dual core processor 7x graphics speed real-time rendering in a game shown new battery 8 hours talk time on 3g 10 hours video 14.4 mb wifi performance more next post WORLD PHONE NOW 2 antenna technologies cam

Re: [OT] Kernel 3.1

2011-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Ubuntu 11.10 and Fedora 15 :-) On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is anybody else "living dangerously" ? > > Currently running Ubuntu 11.04 with Kernel 3.1. rc8 over here. > > No obvious problems at all . . . . . . yet . . . . . :) > >

[OT] Kernel 3.1

2011-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Is anybody else "living dangerously" ? Currently running Ubuntu 11.04 with Kernel 3.1. rc8 over here. No obvious problems at all . . . . . . yet . . . . . :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscri

Re: ANN: RoomMatic

2011-10-04 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Roger Guay wrote: > We needed to buy furniture for a difficult room, so I started to lay it out > using the graphic tools in LiveCode. One thing led to another and I ended > with a room simulator! You can find RoomMatic on revOnline . Thanks to this > community for

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 04/10/2011 15:54, stephen barncard wrote: Another question is - is there another, non-recursive way to walk all folders? Some kind of two-pass method? Or is this just the way it is? My standard non-recursive file walker looks something like this, given tRoot as the path to the folder you'

ANN: RoomMatic

2011-10-04 Thread Roger Guay
We needed to buy furniture for a difficult room, so I started to lay it out using the graphic tools in LiveCode. One thing led to another and I ended with a room simulator! You can find RoomMatic on revOnline . Thanks to this community for most of the ideas, tricks and techniques I used. Cheers

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10/04/2011 06:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/4/11 5:44 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Interested to know whether an e-mail entitled "Offer to Author a LiveCode book" that was sent to me from an Alina Lewis is a mail-shot that has been sent to all people on this list. I know of at least f

Re: Mouseevents in NOT active windows

2011-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Am 04.10.2011 um 19:01 schrieb Bob Sneidar: > This is normal in OS X. You can interact with windows that are not the > frontmost windows, or even belonging to the frontmost application. Ah, OK, thanks. > Otherwise how would drag and drop work? How could you move a window without > bringing it

Re: Mouseevents in NOT active windows

2011-10-04 Thread Keith Clarke
Apologies if I've diverted the original thread :-) I don't see the persistent tooltips bug as an OSX issue as for me, this behaviour with the LiveCode IDE, my own stand-alones and ScreenSteps Pro, the (otherwise quite excellent!) LiveCode app. Every other app I use with any tooltip features (

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Did I miss yet another "enhancement" email?? This is getting to be insulting! ;-) Bob On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: > I think "LiveCode" is the latest pseudonym for "cialis". "Author" now > means "sell". > > But seriously. The offer did not come to me. > > Bernard > >

Re: Mouseevents in NOT active windows

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
This is normal in OS X. You can interact with windows that are not the frontmost windows, or even belonging to the frontmost application. Otherwise how would drag and drop work? How could you move a window without bringing it to the front? Bob On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote:

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
The posting was actually timed at 11:01am today. Mark managed to find it. On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, stephen barncard wrote: > I don't see it. Today is Oct 4, do you mean Sept 4? > > On 4 October 2011 08:00, Colin Holgate wrote: > >> I mentioned recursion in my 11am posting on October 4th.

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/4/11 2:34 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Or does the error message also apply for the message queue? Yes. If your handler calls a second one, which in turn calls the first one, you'll you'll get get recursion recursion. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActi

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Web search says I have to 'install' something and 'makefile' it. Looks like curl. No clue 'where' to put this stuff. On 4 October 2011 08:52, stephen barncard wrote: > Thanks, Andre > > My MacOS shell call (and terminal) doesn't seem to recognize the 'tree > command' > > "no manual entry for tre

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/4/11 5:44 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Interested to know whether an e-mail entitled "Offer to Author a LiveCode book" that was sent to me from an Alina Lewis is a mail-shot that has been sent to all people on this list. I know of at least four people, including myself, who received that

Re: Mouseevents in NOT active windows

2011-10-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/4/11 8:11 AM, Keith Clarke wrote: I don't know if it's related (the other side of the same coin?) but I've also noticed 'orphan' tooltips that get stuck after a change of window focus away from LiveCode (IDE on 4.6.4 on OSX). I think it's OS X. I see the same thing in Firefox. -- Jacquel

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Thanks, Andre My MacOS shell call (and terminal) doesn't seem to recognize the 'tree command' "no manual entry for tree" sqb On 4 October 2011 08:22, Andre Garzia wrote: > Stephen, > > If you can afford to waste some performance and know what platform you are > using, then, you can build a tw

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Tuesday, October 4, 2011, 8:00:00 AM, you wrote: > I mentioned recursion in my 11am posting on October 4th. on rotfl rotfl end rotfl -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Plea

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Stephen, If you can afford to waste some performance and know what platform you are using, then, you can build a two pass algorithm. The first pass just collect the file references, full path, one per line. Then you filter this for the extensions you need and after that you process it as usual.

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
I don't see it. Today is Oct 4, do you mean Sept 4? On 4 October 2011 08:00, Colin Holgate wrote: > I mentioned recursion in my 11am posting on October 4th. > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
I mentioned recursion in my 11am posting on October 4th. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread stephen barncard
Funny that this comes up at this moment - I've been trying to work with a 'Directory Walker' recursive script (thanks Scott Rossi) and really can't make it very useful, I keep raising the recursionlimit to millions, but it eventually will crash on more dense stacks. I included a visible counter to

images gone in standalone

2011-10-04 Thread Curt Ford
Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.. turns out it was a different issue. The project is still small with just a few images, so I began to rebuild it from scratch, making standalones after any major additions. Images in the standalones were fine until I checked 'copy referenced files' in

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Holgate
I have been a tech reviewer on two of their books. They seem like nice people. On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > > The company is: http://www.packtpub.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Alena Lewis is a legit person searching for an author for a mobile development book. She contacted me, due to the community work I've been doing, but didn't want to pursue me after I told her that I am unreliable and haven't done any mobile development myself. I forwarded her to some people, an

Re: Mouseevents in NOT active windows

2011-10-04 Thread Keith Clarke
I don't know if it's related (the other side of the same coin?) but I've also noticed 'orphan' tooltips that get stuck after a change of window focus away from LiveCode (IDE on 4.6.4 on OSX). They remain as the mouse moves, until returning to a LiveCode window and then making a mouse movement.

Mouseevents in NOT active windows

2011-10-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all, I have asked this some time before, but did not get any answer. Is it correct behavior that mouseenvents (mouseenter, meouseleave, mousemove etc...) are getting executed even if that stack is NOT the active window? Know what I mean? I have a Finder window in front, but moving the mouse

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Malte, Whenever this happens to me, it is because of a bug in the IDE. Are you doing something with an object that has sent the mouseMove handler? Maybe you should lock messages before doing so. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage:

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Malte, I've been bit by these one many times. Check out http://docs.runrev.com/Property/recursionLimit :-D On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Malte Brill wrote: > Hi all, > > I am a little stumped atm. From time to time I see a "recursion limit > reached" error popping up, even though there is (

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Admin
Nope, none offered to me either. Mike On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 07:19:25 -0500, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: > No offer here. > > On Oct 4, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: > >> I think "LiveCode" is the latest pseudonym for "cialis". "Author" now means "sell". But seriously. The offer

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
No offer here. On Oct 4, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: > I think "LiveCode" is the latest pseudonym for "cialis". "Author" now > means "sell". > > But seriously. The offer did not come to me. > > Bernard > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Richmond Mathewson > wrote: >> Intereste

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Bernard Devlin
I think "LiveCode" is the latest pseudonym for "cialis". "Author" now means "sell". But seriously. The offer did not come to me. Bernard On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Interested to know whether an e-mail entitled "Offer to Author a LiveCode > book" > that was se

Re: "Offer to Author a LiveCode book"

2011-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Interested to know whether an e-mail entitled "Offer to Author a LiveCode book" that was sent to me from an Alina Lewis is a mail-shot that has been sent to all people on this list. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vi

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Alex Tweedly
I expect that the error message happens when the number of handlers in the call stack becomes too high; that would almost always be due to recursion. Does your handler do "wait with messages" or "send" or any other 'message path invoking' action ? If the engine has an opportunity to do a mess

Re: When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Malte, i cannot enlighten you, but can remember that i got that "recursion limit" message, too. But i cannot remember which handler was affected. And it just happened 3 or 4 times. If i remember right only with GLX2 enabled. I will try to recap that, but have to remember first which project

When does recursion limit bite you?

2011-10-04 Thread Malte Brill
Hi all, I am a little stumped atm. From time to time I see a "recursion limit reached" error popping up, even though there is (and this is debateable) no recursion happening in my scripts. At least not obviously. But it seems that one has not understood recursion as long as one has not understo