Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 11:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are choosing more often to deploy first on Android. But the flip side of that was

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: > I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and > promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are > choosing more often to deploy first on Android. But the flip side of > that was discussed in another article I rea

no joy with fonts

2011-09-15 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
There have been recent discussions about cross platform font issues. My problem is, at the moment, confined to the platform I'm working on, i.e. Mac OS X. I've built a number of stacks for my students, pretty simple stuff with at least two text fields, one for Chinese, the other for Roman. No prob

List Reader Stack

2011-09-15 Thread Bob Earp
While searching the archives I came across Richard Gaskin's post of earlier this year regarding a better way to read list. Does anybody know if this got finished and published ? If so, where can I get hold of a copy please. best, Bob... > And yet another option is a list reader stack Mark St

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Hi Dar, > > > Thankfully, our > customers prefer Android to iOS by a significant margin-- but the LC > Android > build capabilities are still lagging behind

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Monte Goulding
> It's hard enough for us to try and get an Apple developer license. Imagine > how confusing this process would be for our client! And, what would they do > with it? Remember, they're a marketing group. They would rather we keep > track of the technology for now. I totally agree Chipp but you don

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Chipp Walters
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Maybe. Personally I think piracy is overrated in terms of sales impact. > Perhaps. But in the case of mobile phones, not so fast. Here's why. As commercial developers, we all pretty much know our job is to deter the casual pirate-- the

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Dar, We already use Ad Hoc provisioning with apps-- the problem is, they time out and are only available to a total of 100 users cumulative for all apps from a single developer. So, it's not really a solution, and furthermore, Apple frowns on it, and as you know, no one wants to make Apple angr

Re: [OT] Viagra from Livecode?

2011-09-15 Thread Judy Perry
Well, the crazier thing is actually that I'm the IT person in this case and good luck to hackers finding my server space, as it's among the 11 million websites removed from Google's database for being a free co.cc top-level domain. You can't begin to imagine how many panicked emails I've recei

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > The spread of malware ... Perhaps this is an important issue this century. Apple's policies are part of the industry learning process in dealing with this. Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > My reading of it was your customer would need the enterprise license not you. > Is that wrong? Yeah, that is my impression. I suspect I didn't understand Chipp's need. Not that I know anything; that is just the impression I got. http://deve

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: Android users seem to be far more brutal in their reviews. Both platforms have their share of users who don't read the description or the docs and then mark down an app for not doing something it wasn't written to do. But it seems that many perfectly fine Android apps get tr

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are choosing more often to deploy first on Android. But the flip side of that was discussed in another article I read, which talked about

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 6:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some companies are choosing more often to deploy first on Android. A couple of other thoughts. I've been mulling this over for so

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 5:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Given that for nearly every person who chooses iOS two choose Android, it looks like it's off to a reasonably good start: I was just reading some articles today about Android's prominence and promise, and how, given Apple's long time to market, some c

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Richard, Thanks.That had been my assumption. Maybe the VM Fusion 4, just released, may resolve some of those issues. I'm really only coding for the Mac market anyway. If they like what I do and want to use it, they can switch to a Mac. (smile) That's been my credo for the past 25 years. Not to

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Monte Goulding
On 16/09/2011, at 7:08 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > So, our customer would like us to build both an iOS and Android app for > their advisers. I thought this should be simple. Let's see-- for Apple, > we'll need an Enterprise license and for Android we'll need..hmmm. zippo. > Just build and deploy o

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > I guess my only concern to this would be: is the quality of the > applications as good and versatile on Android as on iOS? For example: > how about the uses of music and voices? My Windows versions of my Mac > Apps in which I use sound of almost any kind really sucks!

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Fellas, I guess my only concern to this would be: is the quality of the applications as good and versatile on Android as on iOS? For example: how about the uses of music and voices? My Windows versions of my Mac Apps in which I use sound of almost any kind really sucks! Also, I just use a Ma

Re: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread Gerry Orkin
I'm running the latest version of the simulator and with LC 4.6.4 it now works, but with 4.6.3 and earlier it doesn't. Gerry -- http://gerryorkin.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsub

Re: Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: ... So, of course Apple wants another 300 bucks, what's new. You don't get to be the richest company in the US by not being greedy, and certainly developers are a good source of revenue. OK, fine. Now, first thing it turns out you also need, is a D&B rating (Dunn & Bradstreet

Re: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread James Little
Ok, will try that. Thanks. On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/15/11 2:06 PM, James Little wrote: >> >> Do you know, will it be possible to load local files in the simulator >> in a future LiveCode build? Or is this too much to expect with the >> simulator? > > I don't

Apple vs Android in the Enterprise

2011-09-15 Thread Chipp Walters
So, our customer would like us to build both an iOS and Android app for their advisers. I thought this should be simple. Let's see-- for Apple, we'll need an Enterprise license and for Android we'll need..hmmm. zippo. Just build and deploy on Android (sweet!) So, of course Apple wants another 300

Re: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 2:06 PM, James Little wrote: Do you know, will it be possible to load local files in the simulator in a future LiveCode build? Or is this too much to expect with the simulator? I don't think it's a LiveCode issue, it's probably the old version of the simulator I'm using. Dixie say

Re: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/15/11 2:34 PM, John Dixon wrote: Sorry Jacque... loading a local file DOES work in the simulator... Ah, okay. Good to know. It's probably my version of the simulator, I haven't updated yet to the latest. I guess it's time to brace for the gigabyte download. I wasn't sure if it would wor

RE: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread John Dixon
Sorry Jacque... loading a local file DOES work in the simulator... Dixie > On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > Okay. Solved. > > Loading a local file does NOT work in the simulator. My script, which is > > similar to all your examples, works great on my real live iPad.

Re: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread James Little
Do you know, will it be possible to load local files in the simulator in a future LiveCode build? Or is this too much to expect with the simulator? Jim L. On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Okay. Solved. > > Loading a local file does NOT work in the simulator. My scrip

Re: help work with field into datagrid

2011-09-15 Thread zryip theSlug
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alessandro Pisoni wrote: > > I have a datagrid consists of 10 columns in a datagrid. the first 4 columns > arenormal to insert the data. from column 5 in row I inserted a template > field and I have to format the amount in euros. then I want that pressing the >

Re: LiveCode post 3.5 on Linux boxes with no display

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ben Rubinstein wrote: Is there still a way to build a standalone using current LiveCode, that can operate on a Linux box that can only be accessed on the command line? I've been able to build standalones that behave well when run from the command line provided I launch them with the -ui flag a

Re: LiveCode post 3.5 on Linux boxes with no display

2011-09-15 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 14/09/2011 16:43, Mark Wieder wrote: Ben- Wednesday, September 14, 2011, 6:01:05 AM, you wrote: I'm catching on late to the removal of the command-line options from Rev 4.0 onwards. Specifically, I have a current application which is sometimes run interactively, but can also be run non-i

Re: [OT] Viagra from Livecode?

2011-09-15 Thread Bob Sneidar
The crazy thing about these old password policies is most password systems cannot be brute forced anymore, because they employ a lockout policy which makes an automated brute force method impossible. Suggest to the IT guy at your university that he enable the lockout policy of your domain, and t

Re: Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Bob Sneidar
Instead of writing to a file each time, write to a global variable, then write out the variable to a file at the end of processing. Bob On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Andrew Henshaw wrote: > Hi, > > Ive got an application that quite happily runs along at an acceptable speed > on my Macs, but

Re: Loading a local file into a UIWebView control

2011-09-15 Thread Bob Sneidar
3 I believe if you are using the full path. The extra slash means "The boot volume" as in /Users or /Library. If SpecialFolderPath returns the full path to the special folder then 2 should do it. I just checked and it does so the 2 slashes are all you need. I also entered your bit of code into t

Re: [OT] Viagra from Livecode?

2011-09-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 09/15/2011 07:39 PM, Judy Perry wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011, Richmond Mathewson wrote: The only problem about random nonsense passwords is that, once chosen, they stop being random and have to be remembered. --Right, and my university is quite insistent that we must change our passwords ev

Re: [OT] Viagra from Livecode?

2011-09-15 Thread Judy Perry
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011, Richmond Mathewson wrote: The only problem about random nonsense passwords is that, once chosen, they stop being random and have to be remembered. --Right, and my university is quite insistent that we must change our passwords every six months, and the new one cannot be a

Re: Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Andrew Henshaw wrote: > Yes, the Windows spec is pretty similar to my slower macs, but the > performance is significantly different, for example adding a few items at > once takes a fraction of a second on the mac, but about 2 seconds on the > windows machine s

Re: Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Dar Scott
I don't know about best practice. Here are some thoughts. If I suspect some particular section of code, I bracket it with timing scripts. If your problem is on the order of 2 seconds, then you can call a handler before and a hander afterward. The first saves the long seconds and the second g

Re: Spelling app promo codes

2011-09-15 Thread John Craig
Hi, Marc. I hadn't thought about it, but it would be straight forward to recreate in another language :) On 15/09/2011 12:28, Marc Siskin wrote: John, I would be interested in your App. As a language technology person, I wonder if you are thinking of offering languages other than English.

Re: Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Michael Kann
Andrew, What I like to do is use a couple of time markers: put the milliseconds into a_milli put theĀ  milliseconds into b_milli Start at the top with both together and you should get zero (to check that it is working). Keep moving the b_milli marker down until you find the problem. At the bott

Re: How do you install Livecode 4.6.3 on Ubuntu 10.10

2011-09-15 Thread planix
Hiya, Gosh that was quick! I must have brainfreeze. I went in and had a look at permissions on the file. It wasn't set as an executeable. So, as root, I set it to executeable. And it fired right up. hmmm...sigh... maybe I really am getting old... cheers And maybe this will help some other 's

help work with field into datagrid

2011-09-15 Thread Alessandro Pisoni
I have a datagrid consists of 10 columns in a datagrid. the first 4 columns arenormal to insert the data. from column 5 in row I inserted a template field and I have to format the amount in euros. then I want that pressing the tab key the cursor goesto the other column 6 where even there I ente

help work with field into datagrid

2011-09-15 Thread Alessandro Pisoni
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How do you install Livecode 4.6.3 on Ubuntu 10.10

2011-09-15 Thread planix
Hi, I have been running with Ubuntu 10.10 for a little while now. Very happy with it. I even went so far as to install Livecode 4.6.1 on it. So happy was I that I decided to take the full plunge and go 'totally' Linux (if Ubuntu is such). It installed fine, though I can't for the life of me remembe

Re: Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Henshaw
Thanks Roger, Yes, the Windows spec is pretty similar to my slower macs, but the performance is significantly different, for example adding a few items at once takes a fraction of a second on the mac, but about 2 seconds on the windows machine so Im sure there is a big code issue there, and

Re: Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Andrew Henshaw wrote: > Hi, > > Ive got an application that quite happily runs along at an acceptable speed > on my Macs, but on Windows systems it seems to struggle. > > Im trying to pin down the parts of the code that I need to look at so I can > work out what i

Best practice for performance testing

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Henshaw
Hi, Ive got an application that quite happily runs along at an acceptable speed on my Macs, but on Windows systems it seems to struggle. Im trying to pin down the parts of the code that I need to look at so I can work out what is happening. My best guess would be the interaction with the sql

Re: Spelling app promo codes

2011-09-15 Thread Marc Siskin
John, I would be interested in your App. As a language technology person, I wonder if you are thinking of offering languages other than English. Thanks, Marc On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:27 AM, John Craig wrote: > If anyone else has time and would like to test the spelling app for iPad, > drop me

Re: Spelling app promo codes

2011-09-15 Thread Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab)
Hi John, I shall be glad to give it a try... Please forward a promo code accordingly. Thanks, - Boo -Original Message- From: John Craig Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:27 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Spelling app promo codes If anyone else has time and would like to test

Spelling app promo codes

2011-09-15 Thread John Craig
If anyone else has time and would like to test the spelling app for iPad, drop me a line and I'll send a promo code - still have plenty left. The iPhone version is still waiting review/approval. :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.run

Re: [OT] Viagra from Livecode?

2011-09-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 09/15/2011 12:42 AM, Judy Perry wrote: I tried doing the "random nonsense passwords" exactly once and ended up having to log in most of my students myself by hand. Never again. Now I make their account logins and passwords the same thing: FirstInitialLastname. I think it's okay to assume