Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread Dave Cragg
On 21 Jun 2011, at 07:40, Slava Paperno wrote: > VAR UTF-8 > 194 > 171 > 226 > 128 > 148 > 194 > 187 > > The FIELD and the VAR UTF-16 reports are entirely predictable, but the VAR > UTF-8 list is puzzling to me. I expected six bytes, not seven. I didn't follow the earlier thread, so apologies i

RE: group name persisting

2011-06-21 Thread Luke Hall
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RE: group name persisting

2011-06-21 Thread Luke Hall
by sticking ur finger up your bum > Subject: group name persisting > From: nicon...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:54:23 +0900 > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Hi. > > I use the group command to group three groups, rename that new group to > "gpABC", do some stuff to it, and then

group name persisting

2011-06-21 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Hi. I use the group command to group three groups, rename that new group to "gpABC", do some stuff to it, and then ungroup it. Oddly, if immediately afterwards I regroup the same three groups, the new group gets named "gpABC" instead of being automatically assigned an I'd number as happened t

RE: Unicode text in custom properties

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
As advised by the good folks on the list, custom properties are capable of storing Unicode text, but typing it in the Contents window of the property inspector is not a good idea. Instead, establish the text in a field first, then assign it to the custom property from the unicodeText of the field.

RE: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
I like your definition... "a poor man's Unicode." Cute. Thanks for everything, Slava > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of BNig > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:39 PM > To: use-revolut...@lists.ru

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread John Patten
Hi All... FWIW, Nice site with some folks developing specific tools and API for html5 here: http://popcornjs.org/ Might be useful for someone trying to develop RevTool ;-) John Patten SUSD On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Michael Kann wrote: > I would like to be abl

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread BNig
Slava, I made a slider, make it rather wide and add a field where to put the htmlText into The slider has this code: --- on mouseDown set the endValue of me to the length of field "TextToClick" end mouseDown on scrollbarDrag tValue put round (tValue) into t

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Colin Holgate
Click on the wrench, then About Chrome OS, and in the top bit of text in the dialog that appears is a More Info link, click that. You then have the choice of setting Stable, Beta, and Dev - Unstable. I'm on that one! On Jun 21, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > I couldn't find the devel

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread BNig
Slava, it worked on a self assembled russian text including em-dash and guillemets but not on your text. This works on your text: -- on mouseUp lock screen get word 4 of the clickCharChunk put it into tSelPos put 0 into tStartSel repea

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
One other thing, when announced, Google mentioned they are not discouraging hacking the Chromebooks. So, I would imagine someone will figure out a way to run *some* sort of apps locally. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please v

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
I couldn't find the developer option is settings. Can you tell me where you found it? I did find an interesting article on "Chromoting" which is described as desktop sharting from your Chrombook to your PC. Evidently, it's in development right now, but the idea is you install an extension on your

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Kann wrote: > I would like to be able to download a webpage or an entire website, > with the css and javascript libraries that go with it. On your > desktop you isolate all the parts that are "personal" to the webpage; > basically everything you want to replace with your own material. Out

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Colin Holgate
I take it you know there's a developer option in settings, where you can get OS updates as they happen? Not sure if that does the offline thing yet, I'm just doing an update now. On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Google is planning for offline mode by the end of the summer.

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Google is planning for offline mode by the end of the summer. Certainly, each to his own-- what works for one, doesn't word for another. I still am not sure owning a Chromebook and iPad is mutually exclusive-- as I own both, and use both. Though I've been using my iPad quite a bit less lately... O

the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread Slava Paperno
Bernd, Thanks for the good news, but it doesn't work for me. I must be doing something wrong. I am using the Russian text from Gogol that Tariel found. It is in the attached txt file, with the three problem chars. And I'm using the handler you posted on 6/16. It is in the other attached file. D

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Terry and the rest, Just finished a nice lunch with Jerry and Chris-- two people who have very different takes on the subject, but both agree with Richard and most of you regarding one thing: Learning Javascript is important. Both these guys also know me, and know how I program. Like many of y

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Hi Chipp, This sheds some other light upon this topic. I think the reason why it is such a torture to work with HTML5 is the lack of a good RAD tool. The guy who figures out how to do that, is a soon to be rich guy. A development environment with the ease of use LiveCode offers, that makes behi

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Pierre Sahores
Chipp, I just have to follow Richard, Andre, ... on this. The way i implement HTML5/CSS3/JS in my LC-server driven apps is not really complex at all and no far from funny to the end, something in between the feelings we had, as kids, in playing Lego and Meccano :D I use HTML templates build on

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Actually there is a compile step. The beauty is that it happens in the dev environment as the app is running, and only to script objects that have been edited. Try to execute an uncompiled script and it will run like the previously compiled script. However, we are talking about a conversion no

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
I tried a dBase to LC code converter as my first project. I abandoned it because there were tokens like $ and & that both languages used, but meant totally different things. Also, dBase (or super sets of dBase) use a thing called Macro substitution for which there is no equivalent in LC. Finally

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Kann
Richard and Friends, Thank you for the stimulating discussion on this thread. I'll throw in some ideas from the cheap seats. First, I love you guys and gals to death but it is reality that Livecoders will never be able to compete with the people writing and maintaining the popular javascript l

Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
I don't think I could abide the No Network - No Work thing. There are a lot of things I like to do with the iPad which do not require a network. Book reading for example. Also I like to map my progress on road trips. Playing games on a flight, or watching a movie or playing music, all things peo

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-21 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:25:07 +0300 Richmond Mathewson wrote: > http://code.google.com/p/openxion/ > "XION is an xTalk language similar to the ones used by HyperCard, > SuperCard, and Runtime Revolution." Interesting project! Hopefully it gain more supporters from Java developers. Who could bench

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard, That is Fedora 15 running Gnome 3.0. It is very good and it will replace Mac OS X as my main machine as soon as we get feature parity between the platforms (revBrowser, I am looking at you). I am running vanilla Fedora 15, with no tweaks or anything, just the plain OS. I've installed Liv

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: I just can't resist, this thread is just too good. Here is a movie I just recorded: http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.mp4 Is that Gnome 3? Which distro are you using? Looks nice. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fo

Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chipp Walters wrote: So, if we focus on where the puck WILL be-- is it fair to say it's headed in the direction of HTML5 web apps? I dunno, but it is interesting to consider One of the aspects of the current RunRev product line that may be easy to forget is that they're all essentially th

Re: mouseDoubleUp issues

2011-06-21 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Ahhh ok, how do I stop that without having to duplicate datagrids? > Impossible? Place the data grid inside of a containing group and then share the containing group among cards. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems LiveCode Re

Re: [ANN] MobGUI & web site

2011-06-21 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > John, > > Wow. Looks great. I look forward to trying the iPad version ;-) > -- > Chipp Walters > CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. > > I don't think there is a need for an iPad specific version since a radio button toggles between all of the v

Re: "do" statements and value function

2011-06-21 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I agree with Tim. Firstly, I use "Do" functions every day, and run up "Do" statements of many lines (building it up in a variable). effectively making mistakes in the generation until I get it right ! Couldn't do without the "Do" statement, but I guess that many Live

Re: the mouseText and Unicode: a 3-char puzzle

2011-06-21 Thread BNig
Slava, no contribution to the puzzle but maybe to more sleep: the HTMLText works for selecting «—» and copying it. And all words afterwards. No order in the chaotic universe, just managing it, word by word :) Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.27

Re: [OT ??] OpenXION

2011-06-21 Thread Bernard Devlin
Without looking at it, this non-gui xtalk sounds somewhat similar to GNU Smalltalk: http://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/manual/html_node/Starting-Smalltalk.html#Starting-Smalltalk gst can still load and save a smalltalk image, but it is an image with no gui. I haven't used gst, I just liked th