Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software
On 5/16/11 3:49 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: $12k and a license seems to contradict Open Source. Oh, well, Richmond is probably missing something again . . . :( The $12k pricetag is if you want to write a commercial program and include TightVNC functionality (which was my original plan). I

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Richmond, That's called a dual license, I think. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/16/2011 11:30 PM, Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software wrote: Thank you to everyone for your help on this. I hate to say it, but I'm spending too much time on this. Add to that, the GPL, FOSS and Open Source concept is a bit confusing (to me anyways). I'm going to remove TightVNC from the

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software
Thank you to everyone for your help on this. I hate to say it, but I'm spending too much time on this. Add to that, the GPL, FOSS and Open Source concept is a bit confusing (to me anyways). I'm going to remove TightVNC from the code and not include that functionality. Then I don't have to f

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Andre, You're right (AFAIK) but the problem is that LiveCode may be considered a non-system library that is linked to. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50

Re: get URL from inside firewall using automatic configuration script

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Brian, It would be very interesting to me to find out about a solution for your problem. How do you connect? What exactly happens when you try to connect? Do you get any error messages? What do it and the result contain? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Soft

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark, Please correct me if I am wrong but if he isn't linking against tightvnc libs then he can simply offer the tightvnc source and license his souurce as MIT or BSD. Bundling gpl software along with your own is ok as long as you distribute the source for the gpl part. If he is not bundling but h

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richmond, Andre, Derek, It is not true that you can't release your LiveCode stacks as open source, because the LiveCode development tool is not open source. Unless the license explicitly states that the development tool has to be open source, you can safely release your LiveCode stack as open s

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, First, the expert here on the list is David, he'll probably chime in soon. In the meanwhile let me give a couple information here. LiveCode stacks can be released as FOSS. We're over the linking with proprietary engine trouble, that has been discussed a lot and in the end, the stack is you

get URL from inside firewall using automatic configuration script

2011-05-16 Thread Brian Meriaho
Anyone have any luck getting LiveCode apps to connect to a website from within a corporate network that is set up to use an automatic configuration script? I have done quite a bit of looking but am only able to find solutions that require my app to know the address of the proxy server. With the au

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/16/2011 09:13 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Richmond, That's not true. You could at least release your source code as open-source. There are open-source licenses that allow this. If you think no license fits, then simply invent your own. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille What's not true

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richmond, That's not true. You could at least release your source code as open-source. There are open-source licenses that allow this. If you think no license fits, then simply invent your own. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software
On 5/16/11 12:33 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: If your project involves Livecode/Runtime Revolution it CANNOT be released as Open Source as the Livecode engine is Closed Source. I fell foul of this about 5 years ago when I offered a slew of my EFL programs as freebies to the Edubuntu arm of Ubun

Re: Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/16/2011 08:11 PM, Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for an easy way that I can release a project as Open Source? Do I just put the code up on sourceforge or freshmeat? The project already includes TightVNC functionality, and as such, forces me to r

Suggestions for releasing to Open Source

2011-05-16 Thread Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software
Does anyone have any suggestions for an easy way that I can release a project as Open Source? Do I just put the code up on sourceforge or freshmeat? The project already includes TightVNC functionality, and as such, forces me to release the project as Open Source. Also, I'm not looking to act

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Trevor DeVore
2011/5/16 Björnke von Gierke > you can open any arbitrary stack with any livecode made standalone. just > drag drop the stack file onto the standalone, or use the file association > dialog of the OS (for example right click "open with..." on windows, then > select any standalone). Doing so will

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Björnke von Gierke
you can open any arbitrary stack with any livecode made standalone. just drag drop the stack file onto the standalone, or use the file association dialog of the OS (for example right click "open with..." on windows, then select any standalone). On 16 May 2011, at 18:02, Trevor DeVore wrote: >

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Does that prevent AppleScript also from opening another stack in a > standalone and executing the openStack handler? No. But your code that process the AppleScript events for opening files handles tha

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Trevor, Does that prevent AppleScript also from opening another stack in a standalone and executing the openStack handler? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: I've just posted one possible solution. Thanks. The developer can block these actions with the following line in an appleEvent handler placed in a library stack, however: ## Don't let user execute random

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Trevor, I've just posted one possible solution. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here http

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richard, Make a stack with the following script in the stack script: on openStack insert script of btn 3 of me into back end openStack The back script should be: on bla return the text of fld 1 of stack "x" end bla and the AppleScript: tell application "LiveCode 4.6.1" set x

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Yes. This is good to know. Can you point me towards some example scripts so that I can experiment with this in applications built with LiveCode? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems Live

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Schonewille wrote: On 16 mei 2011, at 16:53, Trevor DeVore wrote: Can AppleScript access the text in LiveCode fields? Yes. How? I had thought the AE dictionary was limited to DOSC and EVAL, thereby limited access to only those things the scripter has implemented (or at least not bl

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Yes. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/ce On 16 mei 2011, at 16:53, Tre

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Until a clever bloke writes an AppleScript that gets all the strings from > the current card. Can't control that :-) > Can AppleScript access the text in LiveCode fields? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mang

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Until a clever bloke writes an AppleScript that gets all the strings from the current card. Can't control that :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553

Re: Obscuring password data in a data grid

2011-05-16 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Nonsanity wrote: > Careful with a password protect font. It may not be readable, but someone > can select, copy, and paste somewhere else to read it. As the developer of an application you have control over what can be selected, cut or copied to the clipboard. Y

Re: Live LiveCode code event #23

2011-05-16 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Past event was a blast. For the future, we need: Presenters People that help with organisation People that help with making streaming easier (it's already decent, but not super easy) Contact me, or mark, or post to the site: http://livecode.tv/participate/ Andreas has delivered free, native iPh