Re: Newbie Q: LiveCode Forum

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Calvin- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 11:43:57 PM, you wrote: > What and/or where is "gmane?" http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user Have fun. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.run

Re: Newbie Q: LiveCode Forum

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Mark, What and/or where is "gmane?" Thanks, Calvin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-l

Re: Newbie Q: LiveCode Forum

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Calvin- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 10:45:56 PM, you wrote: > Anyway, I'm just wondering if I might get the same help on the forum? Don't know, but are you aware that this group is also archived on gmane? Not only is it a good way to read the group, you can also search posts back to 2005 or so.

Re: Saving data in standalones

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 10:44:22 PM, you wrote: > In other words, if I set the value of a custom property and later > try to get it back in the same run of the standalone, will I get the > value I saved? Yes. No worries. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net _

Newbie Q: LiveCode Forum

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi, I was wondering who here frequents the LC forum? I'm curious because I have tried to keep up with this list. It reminds me of 1982 when I tried to read every article in the "Wall Street Journal!" Whoosh! I never made through one issue and once, I started "stacking up for the weekend,"

Saving data in standalones

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
I'd like to double check something on the issue of saving data in standalones so I don't go charging down the wrong path. I'm specifically interested in saving the values of custom properties. I know their values won't survive across runs of the standalone but are they maintained while the st

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Bill Vlahos
Yeah its a tough choice. I was astounded the other day when I was talking with a co-worker about him giving me a tab delimited text export and he went on and on about how he loved CSV. Bonkers! Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important

Re: Windows code signing

2011-01-13 Thread Bill Vlahos
Jaqui, I think most users won't care and I've certainly run such software myself. The version of InfoWallet that is downloadable from the web site is still not signed (I plan on making the signed version available in the near future) and I haven't had anyone complain except when Norton flagged

Re: Windows code signing

2011-01-13 Thread Web Admin Himalayan Academy
On 1/13/11 5:34 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/13/11 8:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote: sounds like a hostage situation. Well, to be fair, Verisign gets the money. But still. Yep, freeware, non-profits deploying simply utilities to volunteers have to bite the bullet: Tucows is as about as c

Re: Windows code signing

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 8:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote: sounds like a hostage situation. Well, to be fair, Verisign gets the money. But still. On 13 January 2011 19:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm in the position of wanting to release a no-cost or low-cost app for Windows, but without a code-signing ce

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 8:51 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: If you don't absolutely need this feature (and it's pretty obvious that since nobody noticed its appearance that nobody really needs it) then don't mess with it. Please. You can get into all sorts of trouble. It is indeed the pistol-and-map-to-foot syndrome.

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Mark, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I can't wait. I have an app out there right now. Someone migrated my BASIC code to LiveCode and compiled it to get it up before a deadline. The app seems to be well received, so I don't want to mess up the reception with the nag screens the Person

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Stephen, I read you. I'll have to check and see if my email client (Postbox) has a setting to include only the last XX characters, lines, etc. Thanks for the heads-up! Calvin ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visi

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Calvin- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 2:05:36 PM, you wrote: > I coded in Visual Basic for a few years and making the paradigm > shift to LC is weird. Now *there's* an understatement... > Do you know if I purchase the personal license and code in it until I > am ready to go commercial and *then

Re: Debugging VB vs LC

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Calvin- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 4:30:29 PM, you wrote: > My history has a lot of VB involved. I must admit, I really "loved" > the VB debugger and tools. I have done some testing in LC with the > debugger, but it is a different animal, which we all know. > Given one can code in a few hou

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Alejandro, FYI - I found this in my "Drafts" folder. If I sent it previously, please accept my apologies. Alejandro Tejada Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:30 PM Hi Calvin, Did you created a flo

Re: Windows code signing

2011-01-13 Thread stephen barncard
sounds like a hostage situation. On 13 January 2011 19:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I'm in the position of wanting to release a no-cost or low-cost app for > Windows, but without a code-signing certificate Windows puts up the scary > "untrusted publisher" notification every time the app launches.

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread stephen barncard
sometimes it's the quoting - every reply adds more text if you don't clean it up. Attachments will not work, just links. On 13 January 2011 18:17, Calvin Waterbury wrote: > Hi Craig, > > I think you may be right. I'll wait and see if the mods go ahead and send > the messages through. They migh

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:42:44 PM, you wrote: > For settable IDs, Mark Wieder could make a stronger case than I could, > since this feature was added to support a nifty new tool he's been > working on. Yep, you can all thank me for lobbying to get this implemented. If you don't a

Re: Some thoughts on duck typing

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Thursday, January 13, 2011, 8:02:16 AM, you wrote: > How did you do that for any objects other than images? It can be done, but it's *really* ugly. Determine the ID you want to create (it's best to create a numerically-sorted list if you're doing more than one), then start creating and

Re: Global in debugger redux

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Craig- You might want to try ... if gREVDevelopment is false then filter tGlobalsRaw without "grev*" end if ... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pleas

Re: Debugging VB vs LC

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Jeff, Very nice! I really appreciate your taking the time to compose such an illustrative post. I'm not sure I understood every step, but I do understand how to compare. This has been a most enlightening exercise. Fair winds, Calvin

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Douglas
On 14/01/2011 00:25, Jeff Massung wrote: Honestly, I just think that's silly. When I start up OS X for the first time it doesn't ask me if I'd like to use Opera, Chrome, or FF instead of Safari. I agree, and also find it annoying that Apple are allowed to bundle Safari without a similar notific

Re: WordReport introductory sale ending

2011-01-13 Thread planix
Hi Curry, This is just what I've been waiting for. I have downloaded and will get started on my new app including this. Thanks and congratulations Alistair -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/WordReport-introductory-sale-ending-tp3215800p3217043.htm

Re: Debugging VB vs LC

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Massung
Calvin, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how much less debugging you'll be spending in LC vs. VB (or C# or other compiled languages). Most debugging (in VB, ...) is based around inspecting variables and objects, because those things are only available to you while the program is actually

Windows code signing

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
I'm in the position of wanting to release a no-cost or low-cost app for Windows, but without a code-signing certificate Windows puts up the scary "untrusted publisher" notification every time the app launches. Certificates cost a couple hundred dollars and I don't want to do that. So the quest

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Actually, I don't think it does require IE. You can have updates download and install automatically, or you can use the command line tool wuauclt. The switch you want is /detectnow. There is no /installnow though. Odd huh? Instead there is a script someone wrote that will force Windows Update Se

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Mine never have gone through. I just repost. Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote: > Hi Craig, > > I think you may be right. I'll wait and see if the mods go ahead and send > the messages through. They might be a touch dated by then, but it won't clog > the list with du

Debugging VB vs LC

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi, My history has a lot of VB involved. I must admit, I really "loved" the VB debugger and tools. I have done some testing in LC with the debugger, but it is a different animal, which we all know. Given one can code in a few hours and the spend days(weeks?) debugging complex code, I woul

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Massung
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Douglas wrote: > Remember when Microsoft lost their European court cases about unfair > business practices etc.? > > One of the conditions of being allowed to continue to supply Internet > Explorer in boxed Windows 7 packs in the EU. was that they would add a > "B

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread David C.
> I'm not sure which should die first:  the CSV file format, or all > non-standard implementations in IE.  Man, that would be a tough choice... Let's all hope it's the CSV format! ...where do we vote? Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing lis

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Craig, I think you may be right. I'll wait and see if the mods go ahead and send the messages through. They might be a touch dated by then, but it won't clog the list with dupes. This list is *busy* enough without those kind of shenanigans. :) Fair winds, Calvin -

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
It's been like that for a long time. I had to download Firefox for Windows from a Mac or other PC that already had Firefox and then copy the installer to the Explorer only desktop. I have no doubts in my own mind about this. Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Douglas wrote: > Remember when Mic

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Douglas wrote: Remember when Microsoft lost their European court cases about unfair business practices etc.? One of the conditions of being allowed to continue to supply Internet Explorer in boxed Windows 7 packs in the EU. was that they would add a "Browser Choice" page that would allow the us

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread DunbarX
This used to happen to me when I sent code snippets by simply copying and pasting the styled text taken from the script editor into the body of an email message. The styled text makes a much larger file than you would think. I always convert to plain text before I paste. Is this the culprit? C

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Schonewille
> Message body is too big: 20967 bytes with a limit of 15 KB -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.5 for LiveCo

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Calvin, Try sending emails to the list as plain text or simple HTML, with no images or attachments. That might do it. On 1/13/11 3:30 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote: The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 20967 bytes with a limit of 15 KB -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Justices directives aside, Microsoft will *not* do anything to help the other guys, so if some little omission or other "mistake" slips by their QC folks... oh well. Fair winds, Calvin Douglas

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
Absolutely, the substacks should stay listed under their main stack, would be chaos otherwise I think! So it would be a 2-level sort, mainstack as the first level, then substacks within each main stack as the second level. I'll put in a feature request. Pete Haworth On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:59 P

Re: OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Dave Cragg
On 13 Jan 2011, at 23:29, Douglas wrote: > How many people think that this is an unfortunate "mistake" on Microsoft's > part? 27 Cheers Dave :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscr

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Calvin, Did you created a flowchart of the software that you want to create? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowchart Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-Newbie-questions-tp3216739p3216935.html Sent from the Revolution - User mai

Re: Your message to use-livecode awaits moderator approval

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Any one? Hmm... I keep getting the below message, but I don't understand why? Is it because it is a reply within reply withing reply...? TIA Calvin use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com

OT: Are Microsoft really at it again!

2011-01-13 Thread Douglas
Remember when Microsoft lost their European court cases about unfair business practices etc.? One of the conditions of being allowed to continue to supply Internet Explorer in boxed Windows 7 packs in the EU. was that they would add a "Browser Choice" page that would allow the user to choose a

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
And besides, we have a lot of dumb answers as well. If we're going to have fisticuffs each time that happened we'd never get any work done. Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/13/11 4:05 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote: >> Hi Jeff, >> >> Thanks for the boost. I really do

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
The hardest thing is to untrain your mind about the complexities you are used to. It's easy to overthink things coming from another high level language. You are probably used to having to write everything from scratch, as though a plane manufacturer had to design and manufacture all the parts an

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Don't forget the pope. He's supposed to be somewhere there too. And BTW the bear can eat cheese anywhere he likes, but you already knew that. Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I'll leave it to the philosophers to determine which "give

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 3:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: The script editor find has a variation when you click the "More..." button. I've seen that window come up sometimes when I select Find from the edit menu but can't pin down just when that happens. Oh, I see. That's actually the same Find window, the "

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 4:05 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for the boost. I really do feel quite overwhelmed (see more below*)! It's normal. LC is fairly unique, and you need a certain critical mass of info before it falls into place. That doesn't take a whole lot of time, but there's a par

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Richard, Ye Sir! Your tone and attitude, as well as the content reflect exactly that of my mentor. He's been at it about two years. He goes by "Doc." At least that was his moniker when I became acquainted with him. He's a great guy! Thanks for the encouragement. Fair winds, Calvin

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Craig, I think I understand what you mean? Fair winds, Calvin dunb...@aol.com Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:19 PM You will be a fanatical adherent in about two weeks. Make a few play

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks you Bernd, I obviously didn't look hard enough! There are indeed a lot of cool features in Remo. Pete Haworth On Jan 13, 2011, at 2:04 PM, BNig wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > in Remo look under Help -> Quickstart Docs. > > It explains quite a bit. You should look at this since some things

Fuzzy text on my iPhone 4 with LiveCode iOS

2011-01-13 Thread Jérôme Rosat
Hi, I have just created my first application with LiveCode iOS (a kind of calculator). When I test it on my iPhone 4, I notice that the text which is displayed in a field is not "sharp". As if the text is "fuzzy". I use Helvetica. But, when I use it on a iPhone 3GS or on a iPad, the text looks

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Welcome aboard, Calvin. Calvin Waterbury wrote: In regard to the end product, the user doesn't even have to install anything? Simply zip the exec and the "externals" folder and send it? Am I understanding you correctly? Yep. I understand that's sometimes shocking to VB devs, and more so to

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Massung
Calvin, On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > In regard to the end product, the user doesn't even have to install > anything? Simply zip the exec and the "externals" folder and send it? Am I > understanding you correctly? > Yes, that's all I do. You can writ

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread DunbarX
You will be a fanatical adherent in about two weeks. Make a few play stacks. An address book and a metric conversion calculator. Embellish them endlessly. Join the revolution. Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Ple

Global in debugger redux

2011-01-13 Thread DunbarX
Per Thierry, I made the hack he suggested in the revDebugger stack script to filter out those unfilterable globals. I tried it earlier but must have done something wrong. Anyway, it works, and is a pleasure to have only your own declared globals appear when debugging. This was discussed a bit la

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the boost. I really do feel quite overwhelmed (see more below*)! In regard to the end product, the user doesn't even have to install anything? Simply zip the exec and the "externals" folder and send it? Am I understanding you correctly? *"Overwhelmed" is my mental sta

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread BNig
Hi Pete, in Remo look under Help -> Quickstart Docs. It explains quite a bit. You should look at this since some things are not self-evident and very useful. Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Slug-saves-the-day-Was-Layers-revN

[OT] Looking for Beta Testers

2011-01-13 Thread RunRevPlanet
Hi All, I have a "shrink-wrap" application written in LiveCode that has been successfully sold for Macs. Now I plan to release a Windows version of the same software on the Intel AppUp store. The application itself doesn't need beta testing, but what does require testing is the download/inst

Re: LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Massung
Calvin, Don't let the vent thread scare you. Some here have been using LC for quite a while, and usually it's the little things that make you want to vent. The big things Rev has been doing a great job with! LC apps do compile to an EXE. It's not 100% self-encompassing, though, meaning it may nee

LiveCode Newbie questions

2011-01-13 Thread Calvin Waterbury
Hi, I have just begun in LC and frankly, some of the comments in the "Vent!" thread scares me! Also, I have/am reading all the FAQ stuff I can, but it's tough to sort it all out at his time, so if I ask a inappropriate(read: "dumb")question, just send me to my room. PLEASE don't hit me?!?

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: > I have around 40 substacks in my application and trying to find a > specific one in the Application Browser is a pain, particularly > since I can;t tell what order they are in - maybe sorted by the > date they were created? Should be easy to do, since when you query "the s

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm giving this a try. Yes it does allow easy relayering of objects, glad to see that. I'm sure it does lots of other great things too but there's not a shred of documentation that I can find either on the web site or built into the product. Maybe a lot of it is intuitive but sure would be ni

Re: What does the DragData contain?

2011-01-13 Thread zryip theSlug
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi Bob, > Well I know that I can put something into the dragData["private"] which > either makes this a custom behavior, or else an array. I vote for the former. > But is there any other "elements" that the dragData contains that I can use?

Re: Some thoughts on duck typing

2011-01-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi David, Yes - well to be accurate revamping it. I've been storing scripts and staks in CVS / SVN and now GIT for the last 10 years. Originally I used a full XML based file structure, but did not need it, so for years I have been storing only the full stacks and the scripts (so I can diff the

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:52 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/13/11 12:15 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: >> Livecode is a great tool but the IDE is full of user interface >> weirdnesses as far as I'm concerned. There are three different >> Find/Replace dialogs and you're never sure which one will pop up

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 1:14 PM, Paul Looney wrote: And Peter, Let's not forget: You click a down arrow to make objects move up. You click an up arrow to make objects move down. You click an up arrow to make objects move right. You click an up arrow to make objects wider. I wouldn't change this because it

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 12:15 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Livecode is a great tool but the IDE is full of user interface weirdnesses as far as I'm concerned. There are three different Find/Replace dialogs and you're never sure which one will pop up when you press command-F. They're contextual. The right one a

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/13/11 12:53 PM, Paul Looney wrote: So it appears that there is no way to adjust layers into, out of, or between groups in the LC world today. Set the relayerGroupedControls to true and assign a layer number at will. That ignores group layers. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Apparently you can set the ID of a stack to a higher number than >> it currently is, but attempting to set it to a lower number will >> generate an error stating "invalid id (must be greater than current >> id)". >> >> T

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I'll leave it to the philosophers to determine which "gives" the ID to > the other, spending my time instead pondering the bigger question: if a > stack crashes on a machine that isn't running, does it make a noise? ;) It makes the same sound as one hand clappi

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> DunbarX wrote: >> So the id of a new object is indexed from the current stack ID. >> I thought (for no reason at all) it was the other way around, >> that the stack took on the id of a new object. > >> Unless I misunderst

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Chipp Walters
Paul, Moving controls into to and out of groups is as simple as just setting the layer one number higher and/or lower outside the range of the group. And at the time I wrote altLayer, this was easily accomplished by using the relayer tools in Rev-- not sure how that works these days. Chipp Wal

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread BNig
Hi Paul, If you use MacOSX 10.5 or higher you could use Jerry Daniels Remo to move things into and out of groups and change layering. As an aside you would have a very nice script editor replacement. :) I like it a lot more than the application browser. http://remoeditor.com/ no affiliation,

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > > So it appears that there is no way to adjust layers into, out of, or > between groups in the LC world today. > There may not be a tool but I have a stack on revOnline that has handlers for reordering into, out of or between groups. You prob

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'll be daggummed. I checked the short name of one of my stacks, and it was Datagrid 1! LOL! Apparently I was bitten in the butt by this same anomaly. Too funny. Bob > I personally find the property inspector a bit annoying too. GLX2 had a > pretty good property inspector, and Remo has a way

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
I personally find the property inspector a bit annoying too. GLX2 had a pretty good property inspector, and Remo has a way to insert basic properties into the script of the object. Really nice! And you can add other properties by typing in the name using the same syntax as the other ones. All

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Not really imho. The engine looks at the stack ID, creates a new object, gives it that ID then increments the stack ID. Otherwise it would be like arguing whether an increase in the bank balance caused a deposit, or the deposit changed the bank balance. :-) (GOD I love analogies!) Bob On Jan

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
My personal opinion is that this is a bit of a kludge. Stacks should have their own unique ID like any other object, and internal objects should have their own unique ID inside each stack. The ID should be read only. If users want their own ID system, the AltID was a perfect solution for that. T

Re: Import Snapshot Broken in 4.5.3?

2011-01-13 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Peter: "the selObj" is short for "the selectedObject". It returns the long id of whatever object is selected. Like other LC functions, you must either use the form "the xyz" or "xyz()". In this case, both "the selObj" and "selObj()" are the correct forms. I found that the script works as ex

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Paul Looney
And Peter, Let's not forget: You click a down arrow to make objects move up. You click an up arrow to make objects move down. You click an up arrow to make objects move right. You click an up arrow to make objects wider. You adjust the type size on the last panel but you adjust the leading on th

Re: Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
I second this! My ap uses extensive use of groups, often nested within each other and it is anight mare to move controls in and out of them. Pete Haworth http://www.mollysrevenge.com http://www.sonicbids.com/MollysRevenge http://www.myspace.com/mollysrevengeband On Jan 13, 2011, a

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Roger Guay
On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:00 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:56:44 -0700 > From: Devin Asay > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: Vent! > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Jeff

Slug saves the day. Was Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Paul Looney
Thank you all! To summarize since yesterday morning: Question #1 I asked "Can you recommend something for layering objects in LC 4.5.1 and later?" Tereza suggested using Chipp's altLayer Tool and showed me where to find it (I had the same problem that Bob and Phil had locating it). I ema

Re: Import Snapshot Broken in 4.5.3?

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Houston, I think we have a problem. This script works in LC (Rev) 4 OS X but generates an error in 4.5.3: import snapshot from rect (rect of the selobj) of the selobj Message execution error: Error description: value: error executing expression

Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: AltLayerTools http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev It keeps you from moving objects in and out of groups. It only move groups around. just put in msg box: go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev

Re: data transfer with webDAV

2011-01-13 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Jack, On Mac or Windows, you can navigate to files on a mounted WebDAV server like you would to a file on any other mounted volume (e.g. external HD). answer file "Pick a file:" if it = empty then exit to top put it into fld "pickedFileName" If you do this once, then you'll see

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
DunbarX wrote: So the id of a new object is indexed from the current stack ID. I thought (for no reason at all) it was the other way around, that the stack took on the id of a new object. I guess this way is more compact; the stack id property is the id counter. Unless I misunderstand, I think

Re: Vent!

2011-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
Livecode is a great tool but the IDE is full of user interface weirdnesses as far as I'm concerned. There are three different Find/Replace dialogs and you're never sure which one will pop up when you press command-F. The File menu contents are completely different depending on which window is

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread DunbarX
Richard. So the id of a new object is indexed from the current stack ID. I thought (for no reason at all) it was the other way around, that the stack took on the id of a new object. I guess this way is more compact; the stack id property is the id counter. Anyway, I will just do what I always

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: Richard - what happens in your test if you reset the ids of objects - can you reset the stack ID and hence that of all newly created objects by some combination of setting all the obects say back to their fressh id status? That is is the stack id not automatically created as

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
I recall in a thread a while back someone was trying to set the stack ID and was having trouble. I think the engine reverts it. Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Bovill wrote: > Richard - what happens in your test if you reset the ids of objects - can > you reset the stack ID and hence t

Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
That's exactly what a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien would say! Bob On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:26 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> Are we sure that Trevor is not a super intelligent albeit benevolent alien >> species sent here to hasten

data transfer with webDAV

2011-01-13 Thread JACK RARICK
Hi all! I am writing a program that moves data (TEXT FILES) across the 'net - usually from schools. Most of these schools have pretty restrictive firewalls. I am able to use webDAV - but am totally confused on the correct line/lines of code to use to send data out and get data back. I would ha

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread David Bovill
Richard - what happens in your test if you reset the ids of objects - can you reset the stack ID and hence that of all newly created objects by some combination of setting all the obects say back to their fressh id status? That is is the stack id not automatically created as the incremental increa

Re: Layers, revNavigator, & DataGrids

2011-01-13 Thread Chipp Walters
AltLayerTools http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev It keeps you from moving objects in and out of groups. It only move groups around. just put in msg box: go URL "http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev"; then save to plugins. I use with my toolbar palette.

Re: ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
DunbarX wrote: Is it so? You can now set the id of any object, like a button? Yep. I tried it, and you can. Did I miss this somewhere? I believe it's in the Engine Change log, but comes with a caveat that it was added specifically to facilitate translating stacks to and from a textual fo

Re: Codesign Error

2011-01-13 Thread Marty Knapp
Hey Colin, My app doesn't have a data folder in the bundle, so it didn't do that step. The codesign command you suggested is exactly what I tried. As that didn't work, I didn't get any further. I need to get to the bottom of what "no identity found" is referring to - I'm assuming that it's e

Re: Some thoughts on duck typing

2011-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Thierry wrote: Le 13 janv. 2011 à 16:01, Andre Garzia a écrit : till late 4.5.x we could not set ids for all objects by hand. ... That prevented textual representation of stacks because the restore operation would have different ids assigned by the engine which you could not change. Now you c

ID's are settable???

2011-01-13 Thread DunbarX
Is it so? You can now set the id of any object, like a button? I tried it, and you can. Did I miss this somewhere? I think this is a terrible new feature, If I am not missing something. What is the point of the altID now, which used to be very cool? Craig Newman

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