't call the user a quitter if their
work is not saved, they would enjoy the experience more. This in fact
is what IIRC the HIG recommends also.
Have you finished reading this message?-)
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trusted me to know better than itself. Something that is quite
annoying in applications if not easily overridden.
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("whip up" is a relaxed way to say "desing a good algorithm to find
out which visited folders are actually worth to keep in the list" ;)
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:46:38 +0100, Maurizio Colucci
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> Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > Why should it be a sidebar?
>
> Look at it this way. Do you use tabbed browsing? I suppose so. Would you
> like it if the tab-bar became a popup list? I guess no
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:06:08 +0100, Maurizio Colucci
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> Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:46:38 +0100, Maurizio Colucci
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > FWIW, I have not used
u would be editing the copied
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mostly unused window key. And before anyone cries "undiscoverable!",
the modifier keys always are.
But that does not mean we should not use them at all.
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d mean "touching" the
target, changing the modification time. This could be valuable in some
applications where it triggers an update for other parts of the app
(like for example 'make'). This would not be a common situation
however, and probably better hanled by a dedicated UI, so
screen (the words), and so save some screen space.
It could make it a little confusing, too.
The synonyms could even be in a GtkCellRendererCombo, but that could
be even more confusing (how do you add new items?) and undiscoverable.
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:03:40 +0200, Leif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > Perhaps you could have the list behave like that on irksu, and have
> > the right
as long as it Works.
(I have no comments on the actual issue)
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b) make mistakes frequent, and in this case, non-trivial ones that
eject your disc when you try to acces it
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to a file on a USB dongle and
remove it before the buffered write to it is finished?
If you find text files too small, try to imagine the same with
nautilus and .oggs. That copy dialog goes away way before the data is
on the actual device. "caching data" sounds like the problem we a
specifically after send (like a dialog) is pretty
much asking for it[1].
[1] Sorry for the pun, it was asking for it[2].
[2] I'll stop this time for real. Unless someone shows up asking for it.
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lable even if I don't change anything. Of course it complains
that it doesn't know where to send it, but that's already too late,
the user was finished with the message and now has to mentally go back
to it because he was allowed to try to send
Ok, so it could be three or four if you count cc and bcc but I
consider them grouped with to: which is only logical way to handle
them in my opinion
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2005/9/19, Matthew Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 17 Sep, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > ...
> > Now that I think about it, what possible reason does Evolution have to
> > accept a message for sending if the subject is not there?
>
>
ut I hoped there was a way
to implement the "mandatory" hint without adding text. Your
"(required)" example shows why, the relatively unimportant hint (when
compared to the "what I need to write here" and to the input area)
takes up as much space as the lab
2005/9/20, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:58:05 +0300
> > From: Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: Usability gnome conference
>
6 1429 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"
So here's the new slim UI for our email client that implements only
the essential:
To: [.........] [ Send ]
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2005/9/22, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2005/9/22, Marc O'Morain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc822.html
> > The subject field is not required in an email...
>
> If want to go down t
27;t think any open software
should default to closed formats as long as valid open ones are
available. That would be admitting that the closed formats are
good(sometimes) and fine(not really) and we love them(nevers!). Which,
I hope, is not true.
And don't bother repeating the fact that us
her gripes, I think the settings capplet reworking has been
undergoing for some time now (at least the talking of it), but can't
find any status page or similar for it...
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it isn't
> there.
Have you tried the context menu? Although I do agree that select all
should be in the "Edit" menu, as it is a standard action.
You probably should file a bug about it, if there isn't one already or
if it is
2005/10/12, Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> On 10/12/05, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2005/10/12, Sven Jaborek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I searched for a way in evolution to mark all messages read without
> > > ctrl-a,
om the context menu.
> Up until now I have mostly tried to avoid using it at all, but since that's
> nearly impossible I think I'm better off learning how to use it instead.
That's a great additude! Keep it up ;)
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moved over $TOLERANCE pixels and then decide whether to
raise the window or not. If release happens within the timeout, then
you can raise immediately. Maybe also if there's nothing to drag under
the cursor.
The tricky part is to determine what the value of $TOLERANCE is so
that you d
2005/10/18, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 14:37 +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>
> > With metacity, using ALT while clicking works, but is of course a
> > little inconvenient.
>
> Yeah. Though Alt conflicts with Gimp's and Ink
rth another font setting either.
But, if you are fixed on the 2D-canvas idea ;), you might consider
implementing zoom to it. That could give you some control over the
size of things (including the font), but without making it suck for
some by default. 100% could have the app font size, 75% could
2005/10/27, Estradin Solaris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Innovation cannot be held at the cost of usability.
User expectations should not constrain innovation either.
But both of these statements are black and white, while usability
tends to be more greyish.
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ers getting confused, how many do you think
look at the nae "File" instead of just opening the first menu? I think
the placement is more important factor here than the name.
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2005/10/30, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:07:08 +0200
> > From: Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: usability@gnome.org
> > Subj
esumably due to
the number of items being high enough (5) and due to the Edit menu
being very full already (specially if you have certain plugins on).
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I thought the word "Guidelines" would prevent you from _requiring_
somebody to do something ;)
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2005/11/28, Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 15:53 +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>
> > I thought the word "Guidelines" would prevent you from _requiring_
> > somebody to do something ;)
>
> Well yes, the wording is tricky, otherw
file to be overwritten so it's only
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ght be very
annoying if you don't use bookmarks or have clever programs. I think
it was even suggested a while ago.
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While
this may not always be true, on could argue that it's the common case
;)
I'd hate to have to toggle it off explicitly, I don't edit my
dot-files *that* often (and usually do that from the terminal
anyways...).
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Otherwise making dialogs fit better to 800x600 rocks (I have that on
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asy and there's some options included in the base GNOME
distribution) than to constantly fight over which of the hip themes
should be the default today.
Remember how the Aqua look was so popular that everybody had a theme
with glassy buttons? How many still uses that
ders (to
change the current selection). I wish it would automatically accept
the dialog too if a file is dropped there, but not sure if it would
have bad side-effects...
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dialogs, although it's not done at the Gtk+ level AFAIK.
And look how big of a fuss it has made!
Must be a real sales booster, GNOME would probably go out of stock too
if it ever had that feature.
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somebody would. I'd contribute, but my artistic/graphical
skillZ have proven to be of no use when the target is "attractive" :)
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For contributing icons, the Tango project (http://tango-project.org)
should be kept in mind.
Contributing other parts: create them, submit to art.gnome.org, advertise.
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"Being first" is not "being good".
(also one from my bag of opinions)
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It's been a while since I've taken math classes (hint: 2 is not a
word, it's a number), but if you are saying that you'd provide a
mockup of what you mean then by all means.
Nothing tells it better than a pretty picture :)
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be just a matter of snapping fingers. The last time the look changed,
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> On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 14:33 +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > On 12/14/05, Josue Farde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > thanks kalle
> > >
> > > but does that means that there isn't a respons
ame the project for lacking leadership
(which is a common feature of OSS communities, not really a bug in
them).
So you want something decided, bring something to decide on (in yes/no
form) to the table.
Simple as that.
If you start formalizing the process, it loses interest for a lot of
people,
king on these projects has the same amount of
coolness, it's just the packaging that changes.
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ormal" users are better off without it.
(I don't use virtual desktops nor the taskbar, just the window list
and most of the time I'm just fine with it)
/me parades around with "we don't want the workspace switcher (by
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spot IMO), as would many others.
There's the nautilus scripting framework to implement these, so I
don't think a complete power tool would be necessary.
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adding virtual desktops would not have helped...
And I think the default setup should probably concentrate on home
users since workplace setups usually have custom configuration adapted
to the needs and policies of the businness anyway.
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 02:54:02PM +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > On 1/11/06, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The switcher gives visibility to this great feature that should not be
> > >
On 1/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 January 2006 23:48, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
> > On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I have a few suggestions I would like to raise
o.
I think this thread was about the current default panel layout.
Re-implementing the gnome-panel isn't really the answer for right now
(although it could be for the future), so maybe the subject line
should change...
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would _prefer_ instead of really _need_ (and thus
any reply with "no, it works fine this way" causes them to get annoyed
and start throwing the "usability" word around ;).
Focus on getting to the goal and the tool to get there will be
insignificant (as it should be).
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>
> http://usability.gnome.org/ui-review/2.13.html
>
> I know about the screensaver typo, I'll fix it when I upload the
> epiphany log :)
What typo?-)
(it's a "finglish&quo
e not best to be the same, and changing these temporarilary
when launching programs is often useful too.
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might open a file with the menu
> command, or with the Return key, or Ctrl+O.
Agreeing with this one, but...
> (BTW, the actual label says "Run executable text files
> when they are clicked". I've filed a bug.)
...this is valid in my case (I don't use double-click anywh
ction as needed.
>
> ImageMagick.
Or the Gimp batch mode:
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/
Granted, this does require one to learn a little more than simple
command line arguments (but then again, Gimp is far from "simple"
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but that's a bit too far fetched to
be a real concern.
So, if there is nobody with opposing arguments, could this go in sometime soon?
[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171424
[2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=58986&action=view
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relatively long with the spinning
speeds being so high, unless the motor technology has recently seen
drastic improvements that I'm not aware of.
[1] This can of course be controlled by setup as usual, but less setup
needed would be a better answer.
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context.
Have you looked at the Tango icon theme? The HD icon from the Tango
theme is the "box" in question. So you are ranting to get things to
where they already are...
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the active tab closes".
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M/VOIP/whatnot integrated to the GNOME desktop (when, not if ;).
People who _are_ paranoid about their personal data can ignore the
applet just as they ignore the fields traditional unix user accounts
have (phone, room number etc).
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to refuse
such things).
Don't remember seeing it on desktop-devel yet, so perhaps re-sending
to there might be approperiate (both i18n and usability lists have
narrower audience and d-d-l is where the discussion and eventual
consensus should be happening).
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ther.)
> Of course, you could encapsulate this in a launcher icon for easy access
> too.
Note that if you have LC_ALL set to something, the LC_TIME has no
effect (at least for me):
$ LC_ALL=fi_FI LC_TIME=en_GB date
ti elokuun 21. 13:58:56 EEST 2007
$ LC_ALL= L
M prompt have any specific issues that would induce
this behaviour or was this just a poll?
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ng lists or issue tracker, since it is not really an issue GNOME
upstream can influence (there are no binary releases of GNOME), nor
would this usability-focused mailing list be the right place to ask
such things.
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the "modify profile" consept isn't the most obvious way to change
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ting smaller dialogs already few
years ago when I used a low-end laptop. Now I've got a internet tablet
with the approximately same resolution...
Funny how it all revolves back to where it began ;)
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smells like eeePC so,
Actually eeePC:s and other similar devices are generally 800x480 (and
the bigger screen versions 1024x600).
[snip large signature]
Wow, I bet that didn't fit in 800x600 ;)
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ign (code-wise) I could imagine that adding such
functionality would not be too taxing everywhere.
Bugzilla seems to be down right now, but the launcher dialog should
probably be mentioned in the bug Calumn pointed to...
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is necessary, present it as a sentence in a smaller font (not in
>italics) aligned underneath the label. (This time the indicative
>form is appropriate, with the checkbox as the implied subject.)
Useful note, so lose the parenthesis.
Some useful pointers seem to have been dropped, wi
2008/7/29 Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Kalle
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Kalle Vahlman wrote on 28/07/08 10:19:
>>...
>>>== Text ==
>>>
>>>A checkbox should always have a label, and (except in the rare
>>&
op files. This could be
> incomplete. If so, bugs should be filed.
There's a bug for nautilus not providing feedback on Desktop:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121138
I suppose the scope of that could be extended to all new nautilus
windows since there no longer is a throbber
rt would do much more
good in designing and implementing a better way to handle multiple
views (eg. improving window management or using a canvas approach)
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2009/2/12 Allan Day :
> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:17 +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>> 2009/2/9 Allan Day :
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > I've been working (on and off) on reviewing all the bugs and other
>> > discussions on tabs in GNOME [1]. It's rea
2009/2/12 Mackenzie Morgan :
> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 15:31 +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>> I just don't belive tabs *can* be streched that far with worthwhile
>> results, and thus I think it would be wiser to direct effort to fix
>> the WM...
>
> So, in my way of
actually belong to, simply having one corner of the
rectangular window placed where the mouse was clicked is just not
enough. That would still leave the other item selected, so it wouldn't
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