Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:20 +0100, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > Hi!, > > On mié, 2010-03-03 at 00:03 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Filippo Argiolas > > wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > > > Well it's not actually the radio functionality that I really care, > > > that

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 23:55 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 13:06 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > >> > Heya, > >> In Cheese we'd like to have something that

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:48 +0800, Li Yuan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:22 +0800, Li Yuan wrote: > > > Mathias made the patch > > > (http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=118981 ) to > > > make at-spi support XSetti

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 15:57 +0800, Li Yuan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > What is missing for this to work? Can we remove the "you need to restart > > your session" from the a11y capplet in the control-center? > > I just remember that the bonobo activ

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Filippo Argiolas
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Right, so it's a theming change, and has nothing to do with the widgets > themselves. [CUT] > Again, you made it sound like you wanted a new widget when you actually > wanted a group of buttons to *look* like they were related. Right, my fa

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Filippo Argiolas
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> Right, so it's a theming change, and has nothing to do with the widgets >> themselves. > [CUT] >> Again, you made it sound like you wanted a new widget when you actually >> wanted a

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
I do not know where to jump into the conversation, but this issue is keeping me off Gnome due to disability: Single-click mode for all Gnome apps https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358731 -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com ___

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Li Yuan
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 08:42 -0500, Willie Walker wrote: > Li and I had talked about this in Ireland last April. I remember from > the conversation that dynamically loading the a11y modules after an > application has already started was probably OK, but that unloading > them while the app was sti

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Li Yuan
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:22 +0800, Li Yuan wrote: > > Mathias made the patch > > (http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=118981 ) to > > make at-spi support XSettings. > > > > >From a11y side, gail and atk-bridge/atk-adapt

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Li Yuan
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > What is missing for this to work? Can we remove the "you need to restart > your session" from the a11y capplet in the control-center? I just remember that the bonobo activation code has been removed from atk-bridge. So the code probabl

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hi!, On mié, 2010-03-03 at 00:03 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > > [cut] > > > Well it's not actually the radio functionality that I really care, > > that's easily implementable. It's more the custom container that can > > be themed to

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Carlos Garnacho
Hi :), On mié, 2010-03-03 at 11:45 +, Thomas Wood wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:20 +0100, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > > Hi!, > > > > On mié, 2010-03-03 at 00:03 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Filippo Argiolas > > > wrote: > > > > > > [cut] > > > > >

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar
Frankly Thomas has given the best opinion on this. The idea behind the widget set should be to provide the MINIMAL REQUIRED functionality to address the mundane job of programming you own interface. HOWEVER, IMHO, if you want the library to do everything for you, then it will become bloated

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 14:49 +0100, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > Hi :), > > On mié, 2010-03-03 at 11:45 +, Thomas Wood wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:20 +0100, Carlos Garnacho wrote: > > > Hi!, > > > > > > On mié, 2010-03-03 at 00:03 +0100, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 03/02/2010 05:55 PM, Filippo Argiolas wrote: > Anyway, I still think that breadcrumb could be a subclass of this > "button group" (a subclass widget *is* more complicated than the > widget it subclasses), but maybe I didn't get the whole breadcrumb > thing. Just because a breadcrumb may be impl

Re: [Usability] GTK+ at the UX Hackfest

2010-03-03 Thread Li Yuan
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:04 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > It would be nice if you could test that instant-on a11y works as > expected (module loading, application registering) and let us know > whether it works. I'd like to. But instant-on seems doesn't work on my system. atk-bridge isn't lo