[Usability] HIG proposals are bad for PDA and small screen devices

2008-01-09 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Hallo. HIG conforming application must use 12 pixel spacing and ignore screen dimensions. It sounds broken by design. On PDA devices, screen size is one of most limited resources. GNOME HIG proposes constant spacing [1] [2], which keeps empty 20% or more of available PDA screen area in an average

Re: [Usability] HIG proposals are bad for PDA and small screen devices

2008-01-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 16:21 +0100, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > On PDA devices, screen size is one of most limited resources. GNOME HIG > proposes constant spacing [1] [2], which keeps empty 20% or more of > available PDA screen area in an average window. The cost: unneeded > scroll bars, less items

Re: [Usability] HIG proposals are bad for PDA and small screen devices

2008-01-09 Thread Calum Benson
On 9 Jan 2008, at 15:21, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > Hallo. > > HIG conforming application must use 12 pixel spacing and ignore screen > dimensions. It sounds broken by design. It's a known issue, but the main 'broken-ness' is in gtk[1], which uses pixel units for everything, rather than a devic

Re: [Usability] HIG proposals are bad for PDA and small screen devices

2008-01-09 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Calum Benson wrote: > On 9 Jan 2008, at 15:21, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > > HIG conforming application must use 12 pixel spacing and ignore screen > > dimensions. It sounds broken by design. > > It's a known issue, but the main 'broken-ness' is in gtk[1], > [1] Or at least, it was when the HIG wa