Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Nov 29, 2007 8:44 PM, Elijah Newren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007 5:14 PM, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also interestingly, when you view the menu with alt+space the Move > option > > doesn't list the Alt+F7 keyboard shortcut. That hinders discoverability > a > >

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 29, 2007 4:47 PM, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a related note, enhancing metacity's window movement behavior from > the keyboard would be really nice. If you press Alt+F7 to move a > window, you can move it all over the screen using the arrow keys. But, > if you press Alt+

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Travis Watkins
On Nov 29, 2007 8:44 PM, Elijah Newren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007 5:14 PM, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also interestingly, when you view the menu with alt+space the Move option > > doesn't list the Alt+F7 keyboard shortcut. That hinders discoverability a > > bit.

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Ross Burton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 07:05 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 4:51 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Hans Petter Jansson wrote: > > > ... > > > Which made me wonder if there's a more discoverable way of moving > > > windows around when

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 29, 2007 9:09 PM, Travis Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They don't show up when using Compiz. Which is odd, because that menu > comes from libmetacity/wnck (can't remember which right now). libwnck. Yes, I remember Dan and David telling me about that now. And you'll note that they ke

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 30, 2007 4:51 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Hans Petter Jansson wrote: > > ... > > Which made me wonder if there's a more discoverable way of moving > > windows around when they're too big/partially off-screen. > > ... > > Sure there is. M

Re: [Usability] FW: UI Responsiveness

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Nov 30, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 29 Nov 2007, at 22:58, Martin Harris wrote: > ... >> Also, has there been any talk about making UIs accountable for real- >> time responsiveness (low-latency interactivity)? Is there anything >> in the overall system that could require a UI t

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Nov 29, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Hans Petter Jansson wrote: > ... > Which made me wonder if there's a more discoverable way of moving > windows around when they're too big/partially off-screen. > ... Sure there is. Make a window movable by dragging not just the title bar, but *any* part of it that d

Re: [Usability] FW: UI Responsiveness

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Dec 1, 2007, at 1:56 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > ... >> On 29 Nov 2007, at 22:58, Martin Harris wrote: >> ... >>> Also, has there been any talk about making UIs accountable for real- >>> time responsiveness (low-latency interactivity)? Is there anything >>> in the overall system that could

[Usability] FLOSS usability at Jonctions/Verbindingen 10

2007-11-30 Thread Femke Snelting
Dear list, At the Jonctions/Verbindingen Festival this weekend, one of the themes will be F/LOSS usability so you might be interested ;-) For those who can not join us in Brussels, all lectures and discussions will be broadcast live; also you can respond / ask questions via chat. Hope to see y

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Elijah Newren
On Nov 29, 2007 8:00 PM, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2.2.20 I think. I guess I'm not confident on how to tell what window manager > I'm using. Metacity or compiz fusion, since I've not done anything to change > that. It's Ubuntu 7.10 with effects enabled. You can find out some detai

Re: [Usability] Discoverable off-screen window dragging

2007-11-30 Thread Willie Walker
Elijah Newren wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007 4:47 PM, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On a related note, enhancing metacity's window movement behavior from >> the keyboard would be really nice. If you press Alt+F7 to move a >> window, you can move it all over the screen using the arrow keys.