[Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, this has already been discussed like countless of time already and stuff, however a decision has not been reached, which is bit worrying. Lets face it - there are a lot of choices out there, but none of them are perfect. Nautilus 3.4 is the safest bet out there (feature an

[Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Omer Akram
Forwared to Ubuntu desktop list as well. -- Forwarded message -- From: Georgi Karavasilev Date: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM Subject: [Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager? To: Ayatana Mailing List Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, this has already been discussed like count

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Nautilus 3.4 is the safest bet out there (feature and stability wise), however it has that horrid chopped down right sided toolbar and the back and forward on the right and neither of those two are even remotely good looking. It would be easy enough to tweak it, but staying on an old unmaintai

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
> > Nautilus 3.4 is the safest bet out there (feature and stability wise), > however it has that horrid chopped down right sided toolbar and the back > and forward on the right and neither of those two are even remotely good > looking. > > *It would be easy enough to tweak it, but staying on an old

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Brandon Watkins
Marlin is still rough around the edges, but it has a very beautiful and usable interface, and some good features. IMO it should be considered for inclusion in future ubuntu releases (I doubt it would be ready enough for 12.10). IMO we should probably stick to a patched nautilus for now, and canonic

Re: [Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Xavier Guillot
Hello, The missing (and removed, not just hidden) features in the new Nautilus that Ubuntu has imho to "patch" : - Extra Pane Mode (F3) - Status bar : for me it is absolutely necessary and useful to know in just one second number of elements in a folder and free space available, without hav

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
The three things that Marlin misses are: A) Stability B) Split screen (multiple panes) ... maybe? C) Ability to "draw the desktop' (e.g. desktop icons, right click on desktop -> context menu) I believe (could be wrong) that those can be solved for 12.10 if the work starts soon enough. And yeah, Xa

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le 09/08/2012 14:50, Georgi Karavasilev a écrit : The three things that Marlin misses are: A) Stability B) Split screen (multiple panes) ... maybe? C) Ability to "draw the desktop' (e.g. desktop icons, right click on desktop -> context menu) I believe (could be wrong) that those can be solved fo

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Omar B .
here is a patched nautilus 3.4 that is already tweaked and could be used: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/install-solusos-patched-nautilus-in-ubuntu-1204.html Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:36:16 +0200 From: seb...@ubuntu.com CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net; ubuntu-desk...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject:

Re: [Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Gregory Merchan
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Georgi Karavasilev wrote: > . . . > Lets face it - there are a lot of choices out there, but none of them are > perfect. > . . . > Personally I am in favour of investing time and manpower in Marlin. Surely > that's biting the bullet and it is bit risky, but it could

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Omar B .
Also here is a more detailed side by side comparison of latest marlin vs nautilus 3.5 http://www.iloveubuntu.net/latest-nautilus-and-marlin-side-side-comparison Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:59:28 +0300 From: motors...@gmail.com To: seb...@ubuntu.com CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net; ubuntu-desk.

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
To be honest, there is so much work to be done in nautilus 3.6 that I find it hard to believe if it is even a choice here -_- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Chad M. Germann
SolusOS has the right idea i think and are wighting patches for nautilus to make it a little less annoying. Taking similar approach would take less manpower and would provide more stability than jumping to one of these other managers. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/install-solusos-patched-nautil

Re: [Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Jonathan Meek
Nautilus is just the latest thing the eyes have fallen on. It's really indicative of the bigger picture... Take what I wrote here, for instance: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/ubuntu-design-micro-vs-macro NONE of the next generation GNOME applications are going to fit in with Ubuntu. We can ke

Re: [Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
I am adding mpt to this little talk of ours. He can clear up the hall "Ubuntu HIG" thing-y :) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Unity-design] What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Omar B .
Agree Gnome is not making it easy for others at this time. from this article: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE0ODg " The "bad things" for GNOME they pointed out was their focus on the traditional desktop, lack of direction and vision, stop energy, lack of corporate involv

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Georgi Karavasilev
Everyone of the suggested ones here uses GTK 3, yes :) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Unity-design] clean good looking unity design

2012-08-09 Thread Benjamin Tegge
Hi Omar, Another nice mockup with good ideas, I have to say. I like how the trash can and the workplace switcher are done in the second link on second picture. The trash can is always annoying me in the current implementation, it doesn't have a nice icon and the space in that corner of the screen

Re: [Unity-design] Fwd: What do we do with the file manager?

2012-08-09 Thread Ryan Gauger
On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Georgi Karavasilev wrote: > I'm not sure how safe it is to use that patched version. It does look much > better than the regular Nautilus 3.4 (see the attached screenie), but > depending on version patched by some guy in a release makes me raise an > eyebrow :P >