Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Druif
I don't recall the explicit release why it didn't make it in the repositories this release, but the basically it lacked testing this release and also the consensus switch to more "simple" apps like MyUnity to customize Unity. But do read the archive of the Ubuntu Power Users [1]. With metta, Chris

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread Ryan Gauger
IMHO, it should be added to the repositories. Many users like to use Ubuntu Tweak. Sent from my iPod On May 1, 2012, at 1:00 PM, supernova wrote: > 2012/5/1 Chris Druif : >> I know Ubuntu Tweak can be used clean up a system. It had been opted to be >> used by "power users". > it is not in the

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread supernova
2012/5/1 Chris Druif : > I know Ubuntu Tweak can be used clean up a system. It had been opted to be > used by "power users". it is not in the repositories Supernova > I don't know of other solutions, but it would be a good idea to think of > what the janitor *should* do, either by looking up old de

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Druif
I know Ubuntu Tweak can be used clean up a system. It had been opted to be used by "power users". I don't know of other solutions, but it would be a good idea to think of what the janitor *should* do, either by looking up old designs or thinking out a proper design what it should do. With metta,

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread supernova
Many say that computer janitor is bad. Is there a substitute or should we Felipe something better? Supernova Il giorno martedì 1 maggio 2012, Chris Druif ha scritto: > I don't know how janitor works in the background but I do have a terminal command laying about that can be safely used to automat

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Druif
I don't know how janitor works in the background but I do have a terminal command laying about that can be safely used to automatically used to remove old-kernels. Just say if it would make your life easier. With metta, Chris On May 1, 2012 2:17 PM, "supernova" wrote: > I'm trying computer janit

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-05-01 Thread supernova
I'm trying computer janitor on precise: it has a problem because wanted to uninstall packages from leksmark that manage printer/fax. remains the necessity to clean cache and old kernels. Supernova > Sent from my iPod > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Chris Druif wrote: > > If I look at precise: > p

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Ryan Gauger
I agree. In Christ, Ryan Sent from my iPod On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Chris Druif wrote: > If I look at precise: > packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic > packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae > Which gives all the installed sizes of the generic ker

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Ryan Gauger
I agree. Good thinking! In Christ, Ryan Sent from my iPod On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > Quite frankly, the kernel packages accumulating throughout a cycle don't > really take up a significant portion of storage. I don't think its worth the > risk of causing OS damage

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Druif
If I look at precise: packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae Which gives all the installed sizes of the generic kernel. All are in excess of 100 MB, with amd64 topping the list at around 130 MB. It is something trivial

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Elias K Gardner
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > Quite frankly, the kernel packages accumulating throughout a cycle don't > really take up a significant portion of storage. I don't think its worth > the risk of causing OS damage just to clear out a few MB of disk space. Aren't they up

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
That's a good point, but most users running under such constraints are advanced enough to be able to remove old kerenls manually. On Apr 29, 2012 10:34 AM, "Colin Law" wrote: > On 29 April 2012 17:28, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > Quite frankly, the kernel packages accumulating throughout a cycle d

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Colin Law
On 29 April 2012 17:28, Ian Santopietro wrote: > Quite frankly, the kernel packages accumulating throughout a cycle don't > really take up a significant portion of storage. I don't think its worth the > risk of causing OS damage just to clear out a few MB of disk space. That rather depends on you

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
Quite frankly, the kernel packages accumulating throughout a cycle don't really take up a significant portion of storage. I don't think its worth the risk of causing OS damage just to clear out a few MB of disk space. On Apr 29, 2012 9:57 AM, "Chris Druif" wrote: > I wish I could believe that, bu

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Druif
I wish I could believe that, but still: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KernelPanic This could happen after updating to a newer kernel. That's why I asked about it. With metta, Chris On Apr 29, 2012 5:01 PM, "supernova" wrote: > > I think that the new kernel has already been tested, so it's wo

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread supernova
I think that the new kernel has already been tested, so it's working Supernova Il giorno domenica 29 aprile 2012, Chris ha scritto: > An additional note on this: would it br possible to make some kind of background test of the kernel on any users system? That would confirm the installed kernel is

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread Chris
An additional note on this: would it br possible to make some kind of background test of the kernel on any users system? That would confirm the installed kernel is working as it should be and only let that one remain? Just a thought thou, keep us informed how it is going. With metta, Chris On Apr

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-29 Thread supernova
I'm not an expert but if somebody would help me I could implement and experiment this feature. Supernova Il giorno sabato 28 aprile 2012, supernova ha scritto: > > > Il giorno sabato 28 aprile 2012, Aditya Vaidya ha scritto: >> CCSM is _NOT_ the place for Janitor to be. If anywhere, it is to be

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-28 Thread supernova
Il giorno sabato 28 aprile 2012, Aditya Vaidya ha scritto: > CCSM is _NOT_ the place for Janitor to be. If anywhere, it is to be in System Settings (that dashboard-like thingy) > Ok. It could be a good idea. Supernova > Sincerely, > Kroq-gar78 > > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:07 AM, supernova wrot

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-28 Thread Chris Druif
I agree with this last state, if it can't be automated. It is similar to "Privacy" that it's a setting in my eyes to "keep" a certain amount of kernels. I'd go for only the current and the most recent second one, but further investigation in automating this process should be done. With metta, Chri

[Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-28 Thread Aditya Vaidya
CCSM is _NOT_ the place for Janitor to be. If anywhere, it is to be in System Settings (that dashboard-like thingy) Sincerely, Kroq-gar78 On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:07 AM, supernova wrote: > So we could for example: > Adapt computer janitor to Ubuntu exigencies, put it as default in the os, >

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-28 Thread supernova
So we could for example: Adapt computer janitor to Ubuntu exigencies, put it as default in the os, place a button in ccsm, any other configuration tool to switch between newbie or Skilled? Default is newbie, of course... Supernova Il giorno sabato 28 aprile 2012, Ryan Gauger ha scritto: > Not a p

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Ryan Gauger
Not a problem, I was just a little confused a little. :) Have a great weekend!!! In Christ, Ryan Sent from my iPod On Apr 27, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Aditya Vaidya wrote: > Yes sorry, 11.10 > > Sincerely, > Kroq-gar78 > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ryan Gauger wrote: > ...It was removed

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Aditya Vaidya
Yes sorry, 11.10 Sincerely, Kroq-gar78 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ryan Gauger wrote: > ...It was removed from the Oneiric CD wasn't it? At least I thought it > was... Thanks! > > In Christ, > Ryan > > Sent from my iPod > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Aditya Vaidya wrote: > > 'computer-

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Ryan Gauger
...It was removed from the Oneiric CD wasn't it? At least I thought it was... Thanks! In Christ, Ryan Sent from my iPod On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Aditya Vaidya wrote: > 'computer-janitor' was removed from the 12.04 CD because it messed up a lot > of stuff, like removing flash... or someth

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Daniel Hollocher
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Michele Giacomoli wrote: > It seems the description of the computer-janitor, but in Ubuntu 12.04 it's > not installed in the system. I know i can install it running sudo apt-get > install computer-janitor, but a newbie doesn't know that. Moreover a newbie > doesn't

[Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Aditya Vaidya
'computer-janitor' was removed from the 12.04 CD because it messed up a lot of stuff, like removing flash... or something along those lines. Sincerely, Kroq-gar78 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Michele Giacomoli < michele.giacom...@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems the description of the computer

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Michele Giacomoli
It seems the description of the computer-janitor, but in Ubuntu 12.04 it's not installed in the system. I know i can install it running sudo apt-get install computer-janitor, but a newbie doesn't know that. Moreover a newbie doesn't think he has to clean his pc, so the application should clean the

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Ian Santopietro
In addition to that, it isn't really something that normal users should need to concern themselves with. On Apr 27, 2012 4:23 PM, "Daniel Hollocher" wrote: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CleanupCruft > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM, supernova > wrote: > > Maybe this is not the right place for th

Re: [Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread Daniel Hollocher
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CleanupCruft On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:53 AM, supernova wrote: > Maybe this is not the right place for this discussion, anyway I want > to think about one thing: when the kernel package upgrades, a new one > in installed beside the old. I then remove the old one and keep

[Unity-design] managing packages

2012-04-27 Thread supernova
Maybe this is not the right place for this discussion, anyway I want to think about one thing: when the kernel package upgrades, a new one in installed beside the old. I then remove the old one and keep only the new one. This can be done with synaptic or through line commands, but not with Ubuntu S