Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-16 Thread Omar B .
de CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running 2012/2/16 Thorsten Wilms On 02/15/2012 10:10 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: MPT can probably point to it, but there's more research that people don't

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-16 Thread Stefanos Apostolopoulos
2012/2/16 Thorsten Wilms > On 02/15/2012 10:10 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > MPT can probably point to it, but there's more research that people >> don't understand the difference between minimising and closing, and >> "just want it back" when they click on the app icon. So that's what we >>

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-16 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/15/2012 10:10 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: If I: * use window A1 from app A * then maximise window B1 from app B so I cannot see A1 * then raise window A2 from app A * then minimize A2 * then click on the icon for app A I would still want to see A2, even though I minimized

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 15/02/12 07:27, Thorsten Wilms wrote: On 02/15/2012 06:19 AM, mm wrote: Though what happens if the last viewed window is minimized while there are still others open? Would clicking on the launcher (if another application had focus) bring forward the minimized window (which was last-focused) o

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 15/02/12 05:19, mm wrote: Though what happens if the last viewed window is minimized while there are still others open? Would clicking on the launcher (if another application had focus) bring forward the minimized window (which was last-focused) or the last used open one (the, um, penultimat

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-14 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/15/2012 06:19 AM, mm wrote: Though what happens if the last viewed window is minimized while there are still others open? Would clicking on the launcher (if another application had focus) bring forward the minimized window (which was last-focused) or the last used open one (the, um, penulti

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-14 Thread mm
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > With regard to minimization: > >  * we should not unminimize a window unless that is explicitly requested >  * we should make no assumptions about app windows which "go together" > unless we have a basis for doing so, such as child window

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-14 Thread nick rundy
.@ubuntu.com To: estela...@hotmail.com CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running On 13/02/12 15:42, Omar B. wrote: 1) spread/scale needs quite some improvements, as

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-14 Thread Conscious User
* if the app is running with a focused window, spread the windows (even minimised windows) so the user can choose Are there plans to show minimized windows differently during spread? In my personal usage, minimized windows have lower priority in the workflow, so it would be interesting to show

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 13/02/12 15:42, Omar B. wrote: 1) spread/scale needs quite some improvements, as it hasn't seen any at all since its introduction. here you can see the problem in more detail. http://askubuntu.com/questions/37722/hard-to-find-one-window-among-many it has been forgotten for a while, so it st

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 13/02/12 12:53, Alan Bell wrote: On 13/02/12 11:47, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: * if the app is running with windows, but not focused, bring the last-focused window to the top and focus it => if we know there are other windows which are part of that window's experience, like floating too

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Philipp Gassmann
Am 02/13/2012 04:42 PM, schrieb Omar B.: > I agree on those plans, but the are also a few other issues. > > 1) spread/scale needs quite some improvements, as it hasn't seen any > at all since its introduction. > > 2) another problem is constantly invoking the spread to find and > select between win

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Brandon Watkins
I agree, current behavior is terribly confusing. I believe I made a similar post to the ayatana list when 11.04 came out. There really needs to be preditctable behavior when clicking on an item that has multiple instances. Personally, I'd favor an approach similar to the windows 7 superbar or avan

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Omar B .
a part that we use frequently, so not forgetting about it and making it that extra bit more accessible and comfortable to use is always welcome. > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:47:15 + > From: m...@ubuntu.com > To: t...@freenet.de > CC: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net > Su

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Alan Bell
On 13/02/12 11:47, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: * if the app is running with windows, but not focused, bring the last-focused window to the top and focus it => if we know there are other windows which are part of that window's experience, like floating toolbars and palettes, raise them too

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 13/02/12 12:13, Thorsten Wilms wrote: On 02/13/2012 10:40 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: - Since the scope is applications, not windows, bringing the application to the top can mean bringing all windows of the application to the top, keeping their relative z-order. After Mark's mail, I realize t

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/13/2012 10:40 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: - Since the scope is applications, not windows, bringing the application to the top can mean bringing all windows of the application to the top, keeping their relative z-order. After Mark's mail, I realize that a distinction should be made between

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Thanks for the analysis. Here is my understand of what *should* be happening. There are clearly bugs, in part because I suspect the interaction of all this with minimised windows was never specified in detail, I may be speaking out of turn, John Lea will be able to provide clarity. The firs

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Treviño
Il giorno 13/feb/2012 07:51, "mm" ha scritto: > > Why can't scale be invoked every single time there are multiple > instances of a program open? Or, better, just show the windows on the > same workspace, which would fit better with the new alt-tab behavior. This is how it works in precise. Everyt

Re: [Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-13 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi, confusing indeed! I think the logic should be: - A click on a Launcher Icons does what it takes to bring the associated application to the top. - Thus if the application isn't running, it will be started. - Since the scope is applications, not windows, bringing the application to the top c

[Unity-design] On left-clicking the launcher with multiple instances running

2012-02-12 Thread mm
Hello, I can't seem to figure out the reasoning behind the behavior of left-clicking a launcher icon when there are multiple instances of a program running. It is currently quite confusing. As it is now, there are at least five different things that happen when you click the launcher: #1- If ther