- radical groups increase in complexity
>>
>>
>> It's not a sentence that can be read, but there's an obvious pattern,
>> so it's also not completely gibberish.
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>>
>> Peter
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From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Verdy
via Unicode
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:58 PM
To: James Kass
Cc: Peter Constable; Unicode list
Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
2017-11-13 21:48 GMT+01:00 James Kass :
Peter Const
er Constable
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Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
Peter Constable wrote,
We don't want to add BMP characters to the ExtB fonts.
So the sample text would lack punctuation. Given that the
Supplementary Ideographic Plane is composed of rare and historical
characters from multipl
With over a thousand Zhuang characters, Zhuang would work, though of
course would not have punctuation.
Of the top of my head something like:-
𭆸𭆛𦘭𭓨𬾀𬿇
𭆸𭆨𭓨𮤯𫩒𬖙
𬻹𭓨𡍹𬙙𠷯𪽖
In romanised Zhuang:-
Gou bae ranz gyoengqde
gou youq ranz ndaw gwn haeux
aen ranz baihlaeng miz naz
In English:-
I went to
Perhaps the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_language should be
considered as a way to construct an example Chinese sentence from
characters that are only within Plane2? Probably coukd be understand by
more people than something Cantonese too
Philippe Verdy wrote,
> ... As well the newline don't need any font, it is synthetized by renderers.
It's true that fonts don't need to have glyphs mapped for control
characters, but I'd hesitate to use any control character in a font's
sample text field because of the field's intended use. But,
Any font would likely map the space (and probably for any CJK font the
ideographic space). As well the newline don't need any font, it is
synthetized by renderers. This could be used to compose some Japanese-like
Aiku with some meaning...
2017-11-13 23:54 GMT+01:00 James Kass via Unicode :
> Pete
As mentioned in my initial mail, the fonts support the Basic Latin block from
the BMP.
Peter
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Unicode
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Unicode list
Subject: Re: Plane-2-only
Peter Constable wrote,
> “𠀀𠀁𠀂𠀃𠀄
> 𦬣𦬤𦬥𦬦𦬧
> 𦩒𦩓𦩔𦩕𦩖
> 𨣫𨣬𨣭𨣮𨣯”
>
“𠀀𠀁𠀂𠀃𠀄 𦬣𦬤𦬥𦬦𦬧 𦩒𦩓𦩔𦩕𦩖 𨣫𨣬𨣭𨣮𨣯”
It looks good in blocks on four separate lines, but would a typical
font viewing or comparison tool be expected to break it down into four
lines? The pattern is still apparent if displayed on just one line,
but
ss [mailto:jameskass...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:29 PM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: Unicode list
Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
Peter Constable wrote,
> We don't want to add BMP characters to the ExtB fonts.
So the sample text would lack punctuation. Given that the Supplem
Peter Constable wrote,
> We don't want to add BMP characters to the ExtB fonts.
So the sample text would lack punctuation. Given that the
Supplementary Ideographic Plane is composed of rare and historical
characters from multiple sources, I suspect that the short answer to
Peter's original quest
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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:46 PM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: Unicode list
Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
𠆩 𠌥 𠍁 𠓼 𠕄 𠝭 𠝹 𠮨 𠮩 𠯋 𠯦 𠯽 𠰋 𠰲 𠱁 𠱂 𠱃 𠱓 𠱘 𠱥 𠱷 𠱸 𠲜 𠳏 𠳕 𠳖 𠴕 𠴰 𠵇 𠵈 𠵉 𠵩 𠵯 𠵼 𠵾 𠵿 𠶜 𠶧 𠶲 𠸉
That is an example of
2017-11-13 21:48 GMT+01:00 James Kass :
> Peter Constable wrote,
>
> >> May be this test page ?
> >>
> >> http://www.i18nguy.com/unicode/supplementary-test.html
> >
> > Thanks. I’d need to know _at least something_ about what the characters
> > signify, though, to have a sense of whether there’s a
Peter Constable wrote,
>> May be this test page ?
>>
>> http://www.i18nguy.com/unicode/supplementary-test.html
>
> Thanks. I’d need to know _at least something_ about what the characters
> signify, though, to have a sense of whether there’s anything potentially
> offensive.
The Plane 2 characters
Peter Constable wrote,
> We don't want to add BMP characters to the ExtB fonts.
How about Plane 15 or 16, then?
𠆩 𠌥 𠍁 𠓼 𠕄 𠝭 𠝹 𠮨 𠮩 𠯋 𠯦 𠯽 𠰋 𠰲 𠱁 𠱂 𠱃 𠱓 𠱘 𠱥 𠱷 𠱸 𠲜 𠳏 𠳕 𠳖 𠴕 𠴰 𠵇 𠵈 𠵉 𠵩 𠵯 𠵼 𠵾 𠵿 𠶜 𠶧 𠶲 𠸉
That is an example of forty Cantonese-specific characters which are not obscene
(that I'm aware of) from Extension B. For the curious, I've appended at the
bottom the full list of 280 for all of Plane 2 which I was
t; via Unicode
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:39 AM
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> Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
>
> A font's sample text can be used in place of the default "The quick brown
> fox..." text which is used to illustrate the typeface in applications which
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Thanks for the suggestion. Alas, the fonts don't support that block.
Peter
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From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Ruland
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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:05 PM
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AM
To: James Kass
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Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
May be this test page ?
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We don't want to add BMP characters to the ExtB fonts.
Peter
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Unicode
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:39 AM
To: Unicode list
Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
A font's sampl
Many of characters in the CJK Compatibility Ideographs Supplement block
are quite common Chinese characters, or variants thereof. You could try
and build Chinese sentences with these characters.
On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 at 20:20 GMT+01:00 Peter Constable via Unicode wrote:
I’m wondering if anyone
May be this test page ?
http://www.i18nguy.com/unicode/supplementary-test.html
2017-11-13 20:38 GMT+01:00 James Kass via Unicode :
> A font's sample text can be used in place of the default "The quick
> brown fox..." text which is used to illustrate the typeface in
> applications which support t
A font's sample text can be used in place of the default "The quick
brown fox..." text which is used to illustrate the typeface in
applications which support that feature.
One approach would be to find a non-gibberish text string using some
Plane 2 characters and add the BMP glyphs to the font map
I’m wondering if anyone could come up with a string of 15 to 40 characters
_using only plane 2 characters_ that wouldn’t be gibberish?
We are considering adding sample-text strings in some of our fonts. (In
OpenType, the ‘name’ table can take sample-text strings using name ID 19.) One
particula
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