Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-17 Thread Grant Bowman
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Jono Bacon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: >> > What is the objection about Canonical making money in Ubuntu given the >> > millions of dollars invested into Ubuntu? >> >> I think trust is the primary issue. >> >> First, that was a p

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jono Bacon's message of 2012-12-15 18:01:55 -0800: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: > > > > What is the objection about Canonical making money in Ubuntu given the > > > millions of dollars invested into Ubuntu? > > > > I think trust is the primary issue. > > >

[Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-16 Thread I L
The addition of the Amazon search feature for me raises one particular question that I hope can be addressed. I have been an avid supporter of Ubuntu, passing out discs and evangelizing the operating system whenever I can. However, at this time I feel that I can no longer do so because I am afraid

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-15 Thread Jono Bacon
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: > > What is the objection about Canonical making money in Ubuntu given the > > millions of dollars invested into Ubuntu? > > I think trust is the primary issue. > > First, that was a partial quote of a sentence and I think not the most > impor

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-14 Thread Peter Swain
This is a small corner of a very big issue, and there's nothing childish about the argument. I suspect the intent here, when the decision was made to omit the opt-in setup, was to simplify the user setup experience. For most people, most of the time, this relatively benign "spyware" is not an issu

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-14 Thread Leif Ryge
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 09:55:38PM -0800, Jono Bacon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: > > For discussion: > > http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/12/07/on-richard-stallman-and-ubuntu/ > > > > I am trying to reserve judgement but the 12.10 install I tried seemed > > to sacrif

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-13 Thread Grant Bowman
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Jono Bacon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: >> For discussion: >> http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/12/07/on-richard-stallman-and-ubuntu/ >> >> I am trying to reserve judgement but the 12.10 install I tried seemed >> to sacrifice privacy a

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-13 Thread Troy Ready
I think the disclaimer is enough, and hope the furor over this dies down soon. We have real enemies to fight, and fighting against Canonical (or ensuring it never reaches profitability) will not fix bug #1. For the people that have a problem with the behavior, Canonical has made it exceedingly sim

Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-13 Thread Jono Bacon
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: > For discussion: > http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/12/07/on-richard-stallman-and-ubuntu/ > > I am trying to reserve judgement but the 12.10 install I tried seemed > to sacrifice privacy a little too easily and I don't like the idea of > money be

[Ubuntu-US-CA] RMS vs. Amazon search results feature

2012-12-13 Thread Grant Bowman
For discussion: http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/12/07/on-richard-stallman-and-ubuntu/ I am trying to reserve judgement but the 12.10 install I tried seemed to sacrifice privacy a little too easily and I don't like the idea of money being made by default from Ubuntu for Canonical. At the same time I