Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-06-25 Thread Paul Broadhead
Paul Broadhead wrote: > Great, dell are selling their Inspiron Mini 10v preloaded with Ubuntu > 8.04. The base system with a 8GB SSD is priced at 199 pounds. > You can even upgrade the spec to be the same as the XP version, i.e. > with a 160GB hard drive. The problem is with that upgrade the Ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-06-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 31/05/09 15:20, Paul Broadhead wrote: > > I did not realise that was the case. However, the figures would be very > useful to know; both for Ubuntu and for windows. I wish companies could > be more open about the OS cost and stop trying to hide behind different > specifications and machines t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Also the CDs you order through shipit come with 4 stickers each I think. I've got a fair few here. Need to stick them somewhere actually. James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 17:24, Tony Travis wrote: > Edd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Ah right thanks for that. That kinda makes sense now. Can you remember how much it was to have the branding? James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 16:46, Eddie Bernard wrote: >> From: Paul Broadhead >> Subj

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Tony Travis
Eddie Bernard wrote: >> [...] > In other words, it's a question of branding, rather than getting > permission to use the software. If you don't use the branding, you > don't pay anything. Hello, Eddie. What if you sell the PC's pre-loaded with Ubuntu, and give your customers an Ubuntu sticker as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Eddie Bernard
> From: Paul Broadhead > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than > Alan Pope wrote: > >> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM >> wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to >> Canonical for the use of the trademarked

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
Paul Broadhead wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > >> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM >> wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to >> Canonical for the use of the trademarked name. I believe there are >> also restrictions upon what you can do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
Dell are also paid, as all OEMs are, to bundle crapware with windows installations. Trial versions of Symantec, etc. This cuts the cost of XP to nothing or often less than nothing. Paul Broadhead wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > >> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any O

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Broadhead
Alan Pope wrote: > As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM > wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to > Canonical for the use of the trademarked name. I believe there are > also restrictions upon what you can do, for example you can't > pre-inst

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Ok, and also thanks Steve. James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 14:37, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/5/31 James Milligan : >> Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to >> pay that as wel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 James Milligan : > Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to > pay that as well? > You'd need to check with the OEM team at Canonical about that. I suspect the answer is yes, assuming the store is selling machines in the same way that Dell is. Cheers, Al. --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Steve Cook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: > Ah right. Makes more sense now. > > Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to > pay that as well? > > I think I remember hearing about something like this a while back on > the list. > > Thanks

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Ah right. Makes more sense now. Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to pay that as well? I think I remember hearing about something like this a while back on the list. Thanks James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 James Milligan : > Boom! That's me out of the water lol. Are they made to pay for it or > out of 'generosity'? > As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to Canonical for the use of the trademarked

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Boom! That's me out of the water lol. Are they made to pay for it or out of 'generosity'? James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 14:15, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/5/31 James Milligan : >> How can they charge mor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 James Milligan : > How can they charge more? They get the thing for free! They don't. It doesn't cost Dell much as I understand it, but they do pay for Ubuntu. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
How can they charge more? They get the thing for free! Well, we presume they do... I guess it's paying for training and support etc. If so that isn't so bad James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 13:04, Paul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 Paul Broadhead : > Needless to say, I'm not buying one. If you wanted one, get the xp one, dont accept the license, send it back and ask for a refund. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/