Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-12 Thread Liam Proven
On 9 April 2012 12:22, Barry Drake wrote: > > The thing is, I've trained myself to think like a non-geek who is familiar > with Microsoft Windows, and is now using Ubuntu.  Thinking in that way rules > out words like 'panel', 'dash', 'launcher' and many many more as well as > program names such as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-09 Thread alan c
On 09/04/12 12:22, Barry Drake wrote: > On 08/04/12 20:41, Alan Pope wrote: >> Interesting feedback Barry. I certainly didn't expect this, but then I >> naïvely expected people on this list to have taken a look at 12.04 >> previously, and be familiar with the basics. Thanks for highlighting this.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-09 Thread Barry Drake
On 08/04/12 20:41, Alan Pope wrote: Interesting feedback Barry. I certainly didn't expect this, but then I naïvely expected people on this list to have taken a look at 12.04 previously, and be familiar with the basics. Thanks for highlighting this. Maybe a bit of over-reaction on my part. But

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-09 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > > > That's a shame. I'd be interested in knowing exactly which test it was > and we can fix the text description pretty easily for future tests. For example I am asked to run gedit. No problem, I go to Applications, Accessories and select Text Editor. Problem, there is no heading Applica

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-09 Thread Byte Soup
> We're collating this round of testing at 07:00 UTC on Monday but if > you do find any bugs over the next few weeks, do please let us know. > > Cheers, > - -- > Alan Pope I run as many of the test I could. I installed a spare drive into a Dell latitude D610 laptop and installed from DVD. I have r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-09 Thread alan c
On 08/04/12 20:03, Norman Silverstone wrote: > < snip > > >> I think we all ought to shout at the gimp folk. Gimp is an incredibly >> capable program, and it is also the least intuitive and least workable >> that I have ever seen! If the Gimp folk wanted to sell it for cash, >> there would be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Steve
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 20:03:54 +0100 Norman Silverstone wrote: > < snip > > > Once upon a time ordinary folk did have a voice which was welcomed. I > know because I was one of them. I was one of the first non-technical > users of Ubuntu and was used as a bit of a guinea-pig by one of my sons > who

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Barry, On 08/04/12 18:10, Barry Drake wrote: > Norman well said! Unity testing folk (and Popey) please note. I > was appalled at the level of knowledge that the tests required. > The Unity testing program ought at least to tell you how to start >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Norman, On 08/04/12 17:21, Norman Silverstone wrote: > Eventually I settled down to do some tests and very soon > encountered difficulties because I did not really understand how to > carry out the required test. I am not thick but when I am asked,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > > I think we all ought to shout at the gimp folk. Gimp is an incredibly > capable program, and it is also the least intuitive and least workable > that I have ever seen! If the Gimp folk wanted to sell it for cash, > there would be no chance! It seems to me that FOSS developers neve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Barry Drake
On 08/04/12 19:02, John wrote: I am having problems getting used to Gimp which I finding a bit confusing with the way the windows open, but if I dont have the main window maximised, I am ok.. I think we all ought to shout at the gimp folk. Gimp is an incredibly capable program, and it is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread John
On 08/04/12 18:10, Barry Drake wrote: On 08/04/12 17:21, Norman Silverstone wrote: I am not thick but when I am asked, for example, to start gedit or nautilus using a set up with which I am not familiar I was lost and gave up. Maybe this testing is only for the Ubuntu literate and not for a simp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Barry Drake
On 08/04/12 17:21, Norman Silverstone wrote: I am not thick but when I am asked, for example, to start gedit or nautilus using a set up with which I am not familiar I was lost and gave up. Maybe this testing is only for the Ubuntu literate and not for a simple user like me. Norman well said!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > I would like to make a couple of comments relating to my experience. The most time consuming part of the process is the downloading and installation of the system. I suppose, overall this took well over 2 hours. Perhaps, with super fast broadband and a super computer, neither of which I h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
On 8 April 2012 16:59, Norman Silverstone wrote: > Followed instructions and everything worked like a charm. Thanks goodness for that, I am always a bit nervous giving out advice like this in case it all goes wrong. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
Followed instructions and everything worked like a charm. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > > No comma, use the drop down list to select / from the options there. > Thank you. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
On 8 April 2012 12:55, Norman Silverstone wrote: > >> > >> >> >  snip > >> >> >> >> >> >> You are right, I am seeing that too.  The side by side option seems >> >> >> not to be there. >> >> >> Do Something Else takes one to the manual setup page. >> >> > >> >> > I would be quite happy to do a manu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > > >> > snip > > >> >> > >> >> You are right, I am seeing that too. The side by side option seems > >> >> not to be there. > >> >> Do Something Else takes one to the manual setup page. > >> > > >> > I would be quite happy to do a manual set up if I could be sure not to > >> > ruin everything

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
On 8 April 2012 11:43, Norman Silverstone wrote: > >> >  snip > >> >> >> >> You are right, I am seeing that too.  The side by side option seems >> >> not to be there. >> >> Do Something Else takes one to the manual setup page. >> > >> > I would be quite happy to do a manual set up if I could be su

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > snip > > >> > >> You are right, I am seeing that too. The side by side option seems > >> not to be there. > >> Do Something Else takes one to the manual setup page. > > > > I would be quite happy to do a manual set up if I could be sure not to > > ruin everything else on the HD. > > Open a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
On 8 April 2012 11:22, Norman Silverstone wrote: >  snip > >> >> You are right, I am seeing that too.  The side by side option seems >> not to be there. >> Do Something Else takes one to the manual setup page. > > I would be quite happy to do a manual set up if I could be sure not to > ruin everyt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
snip > > > You are right, I am seeing that too. The side by side option seems > not to be there. > Do Something Else takes one to the manual setup page. I would be quite happy to do a manual set up if I could be sure not to ruin everything else on the HD. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
On 8 April 2012 10:45, Norman Silverstone wrote: > < snip > >> >> Boot off the USB stick or CD/DVD and then follow the prompts. one of >> the options is to install side-by-side with your existing >> installation. Choose that, job done. >> >> Other options will allow you to "upgrade" or "overwrite"

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > > > Boot off the USB stick or CD/DVD and then follow the prompts. one of > the options is to install side-by-side with your existing > installation. Choose that, job done. > > Other options will allow you to "upgrade" or "overwrite". Don't choose > those if you absolutely want dual boot.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Law
On 7 April 2012 23:34, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Colin Law wrote: >> On 7 April 2012 17:10, Alan Pope wrote: >> > Boot off the USB stick or CD/DVD and then follow the prompts. one of >> > the options is to install side-by-side with your existing >> > installation. Choose that, job done. >> >> If you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Avi Greenbury
Colin Law wrote: > On 7 April 2012 17:10, Alan Pope wrote: > > Boot off the USB stick or CD/DVD and then follow the prompts. one of > > the options is to install side-by-side with your existing > > installation. Choose that, job done. > > If you choose that route does it give a choice on how much

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > > > > > There is. Download the ISO, use USB startup disk creator to put it on > a USB stick, or burn the ISO to a CD/DVD. > > Boot off the USB stick or CD/DVD and then follow the prompts. one of > the options is to install side-by-side with your existing > installation. Choose that, job

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/12 17:30, Byte Soup wrote: > Just giving this a spin.. I downloaded a 32bit desktop ISO of beta > 2, booting from USB connected HDD and running like a live CD. I can > see my home network in the network manager wireless networking list > but c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Byte Soup
Just giving this a spin.. I downloaded a 32bit desktop ISO of beta 2, booting from USB connected HDD and running like a live CD. I can see my home network in the network manager wireless networking list but can't select it to connect. I bet I'm missing something obvious here, but it seems it only

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Colin Law
On 7 April 2012 17:10, Alan Pope wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/04/12 15:40, Norman Silverstone wrote: >> I would like to have a go but need a little helpful advice, please. >> I have Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop computer and wondered if there is >> a simple way t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/12 15:40, Norman Silverstone wrote: > I would like to have a go but need a little helpful advice, please. > I have Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop computer and wondered if there is > a simple way to install the version of Ubuntu to be tested along

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Barry Drake
On 07/04/12 15:40, Norman Silverstone wrote: I would like to have a go but need a little helpful advice, please. I have Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop computer and wondered if there is a simple way to install the version of Ubuntu to be tested along side the version I use. Thanks Norman I put a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread paul sutton
On 07/04/12 15:40, Norman Silverstone wrote: >> If any of you are at a loose end this weekend and would like to make >> Unity better, we'd really appreciate some testing ahead of the next >> release. >> >> I made a little summary video to show how easy it is to get involved. >> >> http://www.youtub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-07 Thread Norman Silverstone
> If any of you are at a loose end this weekend and would like to make > Unity better, we'd really appreciate some testing ahead of the next > release. > > I made a little summary video to show how easy it is to get involved. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgL957zo5QM > > It's all detailed

[ubuntu-uk] Unity testing

2012-04-06 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, If any of you are at a loose end this weekend and would like to make Unity better, we'd really appreciate some testing ahead of the next release. I made a little summary video to show how easy it is to get involved. http://www.youtube.com/wa