Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-13 Thread Philip Wyett
On 13/02/07, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On Sun, February 11, 2007 11:12 pm, Philip Wyett wrote: > On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Philip Wyett wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have >> > some seri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-13 Thread Matthew East
Hi, On Sun, February 11, 2007 11:12 pm, Philip Wyett wrote: > On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Philip Wyett wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have >> > some serious reservations about it. >> > >> > Will CNR be part of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > On 12/02/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I find it odd, because no-one expects to drive a car without doing some >> learning and even taking a test, but some people expect to use a >> computer with no training/learning/effort what so ever! > > That's cal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Stephen Morrish wrote: > > > On 2/12/07, *Tony Arnold* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > Perhaps the implication is that many Windows users are already 'mindless > idiots'. Or to be more fair, people who have bought a machine that > already has Windows insta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Martin Fitzpatrick
On 12/02/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find it odd, because no-one expects to drive a car without doing some > learning and even taking a test, but some people expect to use a > computer with no training/learning/effort what so ever! That's called "the law". If there was no legal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Stephen Morrish
On 2/12/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan, Alan Pope wrote: > But on Windows they are expected to install antivirus, spyware, operating system updates. This is all stuff they > *had* to learn, so why should they suddenly become mindless idiots when they move to Linux? Perhaps the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan, Alan Pope wrote: > But on Windows they are expected to install antivirus, spyware, operating > system updates. This is all stuff they > *had* to learn, so why should they suddenly become mindless idiots when they > move to Linux? Perhaps the implication is that many Windows users are al

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:46:32AM +, alan c wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:25 +, alan c wrote: > >> I have had no problem with automatix or with easy ubuntu. > > > > How many machines have you install automatix and all the gumpf and then > > upgraded to the next r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 10:33:16AM +, alan c wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:25 +, alan c wrote: > >> I have had no problem with automatix or with easy ubuntu. > > > > How many machines have you install automatix and all the gumpf > > what gumpf? > The stuff that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:25 +, alan c wrote: >> I have had no problem with automatix or with easy ubuntu. > > How many machines have you install automatix and all the gumpf and then > upgraded to the next release using update manager? In the past this has > been the bit tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:25 +, alan c wrote: >> I have had no problem with automatix or with easy ubuntu. > > How many machines have you install automatix and all the gumpf what gumpf? > and then > upgraded to the next release using update manager? In the past this has >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 08:25 +, alan c wrote: > I have had no problem with automatix or with easy ubuntu. How many machines have you install automatix and all the gumpf and then upgraded to the next release using update manager? In the past this has been the bit that has bitten quite a few peo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 00:14 +, Toby Smithe wrote: > This last step is supposed to get even easier with Feisty, with > easy-codec-installation and suchlike coming in. > Indeed. I double clicked a video on a blank feisty install (with all updates) and it duly went off, found the necessary codec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-12 Thread alan c
Toby Smithe wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:06 +, Stephen Morrish wrote: >> OK I'm new here, so Hi to everyone. Now that's out of the way... I >> tried FreeSpire before ubuntu. There were several things I didn't like >> about it and one of those was CNR. Not the method, but the whole feel >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-11 Thread Toby Smithe
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 23:06 +, Stephen Morrish wrote: > OK I'm new here, so Hi to everyone. Now that's out of the way... I > tried FreeSpire before ubuntu. There were several things I didn't like > about it and one of those was CNR. Not the method, but the whole feel > of the thing. It felt lik

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-11 Thread Stephen Morrish
On 2/11/07, Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Philip Wyett wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have > > some serious reservations about it. > > > > Will CNR be part of a default des

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-11 Thread Philip Wyett
On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philip Wyett wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have > some serious reservations about it. > > Will CNR be part of a default desktop installation? Not according to the FAQ that was released with th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-09 Thread Dean Sas
Philip Wyett wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have > some serious reservations about it. > > Will CNR be part of a default desktop installation? Not according to the FAQ that was released with the press release. We are to get some "CNR like" fe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-09 Thread roberto sarrionandia
day, 9 February, 2007 4:11:16 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal On 2/9/07, Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have some serious reservations about it. Will CNR be part of a default desktop installati

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-09 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/9/07, Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have some serious reservations about it. Will CNR be part of a default desktop installation? If yes, I will have to seriously consider abandoning Ubuntu. Why? Ubuntu - L

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

2007-02-09 Thread Philip Wyett
Hi all, I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have some serious reservations about it. Will CNR be part of a default desktop installation? If yes, I will have to seriously consider abandoning Ubuntu. Why? Ubuntu - Linux for human beings and not Linux to confuse the cr