Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-18 Thread Colin Law
On 18 May 2011 08:58, Avi Greenbury wrote: > > I think I'm running unity-2d (nothing's ever told me it is, but I've no drop > shadows and the panel's a light grey and it's a bit less pretty than others > I've seen) and the middle-click-on-the-titlebar works for me. You get a choice of which to ru

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-18 Thread Liam Proven
On 18 May 2011 16:25, Colin Law wrote: > On 18 May 2011 13:39, Liam Proven wrote: >> On 18 May 2011 08:19, Colin Law wrote: >>> On 17 May 2011 23:15, Liam Proven wrote: On 17 May 2011 21:07, Colin Law wrote: > On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: >> On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam P

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-18 Thread Colin Law
On 18 May 2011 13:39, Liam Proven wrote: > On 18 May 2011 08:19, Colin Law wrote: >> On 17 May 2011 23:15, Liam Proven wrote: >>> On 17 May 2011 21:07, Colin Law wrote: On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: > On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: >> Did you know that you can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-18 Thread Liam Proven
On 18 May 2011 08:19, Colin Law wrote: > On 17 May 2011 23:15, Liam Proven wrote: >> On 17 May 2011 21:07, Colin Law wrote: >>> On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: > Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a > win

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-18 Thread Avi Greenbury
Colin Law wrote: Have you tried Unity-2D (not the regular Unity)? It is certainly not working for me whereas it does on the regular Unity. I can run the regular Unity if I only use my laptop screen but when I add an external one the virtual display is too large for the graphics chip to run 3D s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-18 Thread Colin Law
On 17 May 2011 23:15, Liam Proven wrote: > On 17 May 2011 21:07, Colin Law wrote: >> On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: >>> On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a window to the back of the stack? It's very handy.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Liam Proven
On 17 May 2011 23:46, Matt Wheeler wrote: > Offtopic but... > > On 17 May 2011 17:29, "Liam Proven" wrote: > [snip] >> Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a >> window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one >> Linux feature I most miss when using Win

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Matt Wheeler
Offtopic but... On 17 May 2011 17:29, "Liam Proven" wrote: [snip] > Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a > window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one > Linux feature I most miss when using Windows - I curse its absence > several times an hour.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Liam Proven
On 17 May 2011 21:07, Colin Law wrote: > On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: >> On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: >>> Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a >>> window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one >>> Linux feature I most miss wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Colin Law
On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: > On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: >> Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a >> window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one >> Linux feature I most miss when using Windows - I curse its absence >> seve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Liam Proven
On 17 May 2011 17:49, John Stevenson wrote: > On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: >> > Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a >> > window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one >> > Linux feature I m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread John Stevenson
On 17 May 2011 17:33, Alan Pope wrote: > On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: > > Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a > > window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one > > Linux feature I most miss when using Windows - I curse its absence > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Alan Pope
On 17 May 2011 17:29, Liam Proven wrote: > Did you know that you can middle-click on the title bar to send a > window to the back of the stack? It's very handy. That is the one > Linux feature I most miss when using Windows - I curse its absence > several times an hour. I did not know this. Will

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread Liam Proven
On 16 May 2011 16:56, gazz wrote: > Choice is a wonderful thing but I don't see any way of exercising it re. the > vertical scrollbar in 11.04. I've ditched Unity interface, can't cope with > it - for something that's supposed to be easy to use, I actually found I > reverted almost entirely to ke

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-17 Thread gazz
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 22:02 +0100, Colin Law wrote: > > Again, though, neither is anything like as convenient as clicking the > app in the bottom panel. Perhaps I just have to put up with this. > > Colin > I'm with you Colin - this is the main reason I switched back to classic - it's way t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Colin Law
On 16 May 2011 21:51, Andy Braben wrote: > > > On 16 May 2011 21:44, Colin Law wrote: >> >> This is a Unity question, not FF.  I am enquiring as to the best way >> to switch between windows within one app using Unity.  This was with >> respect to Alan's point that one could just select the other

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Colin Law
On 16 May 2011 21:53, John Stevenson wrote: > > > On 16 May 2011 21:44, Colin Law wrote: >> >> This is a Unity question, not FF.  I am enquiring as to the best way >> to switch between windows within one app using Unity.  This was with >> respect to Alan's point that one could just select the oth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 May 2011 21:44, Colin Law wrote: > > This is a Unity question, not FF. I am enquiring as to the best way > to switch between windows within one app using Unity. This was with > respect to Alan's point that one could just select the other window > rather than sliding the front one aside.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Andy Braben
On 16 May 2011 21:44, Colin Law wrote: > > This is a Unity question, not FF. I am enquiring as to the best way > to switch between windows within one app using Unity. This was with > respect to Alan's point that one could just select the other window > rather than sliding the front one aside.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Colin Law
On 16 May 2011 18:39, Rob Beard wrote: > On 16/05/11 18:23, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 16 May 2011 17:47, Alan Pope  wrote: >>> >>> Why move a window to see what's underneath? Why not just switch to the >>> window you actually want to see? >> >> If I have the downloads window of firefox open, but b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Josh Holland
On May 16, 2011 6:23 PM, "Colin Law" > If I have the downloads window of firefox open, but behind another > firefox window, what is the most efficient way to get to see it (using > Unity rather than Tools, Downloads in FF)? Install a download bar extension? The separate window always annoyed me..

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/05/11 18:23, Colin Law wrote: On 16 May 2011 17:47, Alan Pope wrote: Why move a window to see what's underneath? Why not just switch to the window you actually want to see? If I have the downloads window of firefox open, but behind another firefox window, what is the most efficient way

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Colin Law
On 16 May 2011 17:47, Alan Pope wrote: > > Why move a window to see what's underneath? Why not just switch to the > window you actually want to see? If I have the downloads window of firefox open, but behind another firefox window, what is the most efficient way to get to see it (using Unity rath

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread gazz
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 17:47 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > Why move a window to see what's underneath? Why not just switch to the > window you actually want to see? > > Al. > Cuz I wanna see both of them - like click on a colour picker and still be able to see what I'm trying to pick! Paula --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/05/11 17:47, Alan Pope wrote: On 16 May 2011 16:56, gazz wrote: Touchpad scrolling is a blunt instrument - for which reason I rarely use it. Depends on the hardware. On my laptop it's fantastic. Very fine control indeed can be had with two finger scrolling. Much finer than a mouse wheel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread J Fernyhough
On 16 May 2011 15:26, Jon Farmer wrote: > Anyway to get my scrollbars back? > Yes. Remove (or purge, depending on preference ;) overlay-scrollbar, e.g. $ sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar Log out and in, all should be chunky. Jonathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Liam Gallear
On 16 May 2011, at 17:47, Alan Pope wrote: > Depends on the hardware. On my laptop it's fantastic. Very fine > control indeed can be had with two finger scrolling. Much finer than a > mouse wheel which (in general) goes in jumps of a few lines at a time. I'm almost certain that that is something

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 May 2011 16:56, gazz wrote: > Touchpad scrolling is a blunt instrument - for which reason I rarely use it. Depends on the hardware. On my laptop it's fantastic. Very fine control indeed can be had with two finger scrolling. Much finer than a mouse wheel which (in general) goes in jumps of a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 16 May 2011 16:49, Jon Farmer wrote: > On 16 May 2011 16:45, Matthew Daubney wrote: > > > I'd argue the point on the loss of fine control, you can still drag those > > little arrows up and down to get to where you want in a document, rather > > than just clicking on them to go up/down. The on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread gazz
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:45 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: > > > > On 16 May 2011 16:27, Jon Farmer wrote: > > On 16 May 2011 15:48, Alan Pope wrote: > > On 16 May 2011 15:44, Jon Farmer wrote: > > > > Easiest way to try is move your finger forward

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Jon Farmer
On 16 May 2011 16:45, Matthew Daubney wrote: > I'd argue the point on the loss of fine control, you can still drag those > little arrows up and down to get to where you want in a document, rather > than just clicking on them to go up/down. The only thing that's a bit more > difficult is clicking

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 16 May 2011 16:27, Jon Farmer wrote: > On 16 May 2011 15:48, Alan Pope wrote: > > On 16 May 2011 15:44, Jon Farmer wrote: > > > Easiest way to try is move your finger forward and back along the > > right hand edge when in a scrollable window. > > So apparently I do. Still a major PITA to use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Jon Farmer
On 16 May 2011 15:48, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 May 2011 15:44, Jon Farmer wrote: > Easiest way to try is move your finger forward and back along the > right hand edge when in a scrollable window. So apparently I do. Still a major PITA to use with Empathy though. A total loss of fine control. R

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Paul Sutton
On 16/05/11 15:44, Jon Farmer wrote: > On 16 May 2011 15:33, Alan Pope wrote: > >> It's supposed to be easier, if you don't try to click them but use the >> scroll region on your touchpad, or if supported enable two finger >> scrolling. >> > > I am not even aware my touchpad has a scroll region.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 May 2011 15:44, Jon Farmer wrote: > I am not even aware my touchpad has a scroll region. > Which netbook is it? Easiest way to try is move your finger forward and back along the right hand edge when in a scrollable window. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Jon Farmer
On 16 May 2011 15:33, Alan Pope wrote: > It's supposed to be easier, if you don't try to click them but use the > scroll region on your touchpad, or if supported enable two finger > scrolling. > I am not even aware my touchpad has a scroll region. Regards Jon -- Jon Farmer Tel 07795 118140

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread gazz
I get this on most apps with 11.04 - very annoying. I can see the point is that the up and down scroll arrows are now close together for people who use the up and down arrows - but, as I normally just click on the gutter next to where my pointer happens to be, I'm also finding it very, very annoyin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 May 2011 15:26, Jon Farmer wrote: > So since I have upgraded to 11.04 on my netbook I have found that > Empathy has lost it's scrollbar in the contacts list and is replaced > with a fiddly up and down control. The control only appears when you > hover over the right edge of the contacts wind

[ubuntu-uk] Empathy and 11.04

2011-05-16 Thread Jon Farmer
Hi So since I have upgraded to 11.04 on my netbook I have found that Empathy has lost it's scrollbar in the contacts list and is replaced with a fiddly up and down control. The control only appears when you hover over the right edge of the contacts window. This is very tricky when using a touchpad