Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-10 Thread Andrew Turner
2009/3/10 Michael G Fletcher : > Great stuff! > > Out of interest, how much did they credit you? £62.82+VAT! The laptop cost £399 (including VAT). -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-10 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Turner wrote: > 2009/3/8 Michael G Fletcher : >> Andrew, not sure if you have tried yet, but I have a friend that >> bought a Dell and had no trouble getting a refund [1] :-) >> >> Good Luck >> --Michael >> >> [1] http://www.ducklight.net/node/42 > > Michae

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-10 Thread Sean Miller
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM, James Milligan wrote: > Also the UK hasn't conformed to the EU metric system - 'we' still use > imperial measurments. You've lost me there... it's still illegal to not display a metric weight on goods being sold, I believe... last autumn the government announced t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-10 Thread Rob Beard
On 10/03/2009 10:09, Andrew Turner wrote: > 2009/3/8 Michael G Fletcher: > >> Andrew, not sure if you have tried yet, but I have a friend that >> bought a Dell and had no trouble getting a refund [1] :-) >> >> Good Luck >> --Michael >> >> [1] http://www.ducklight.net/node/42 >> > > Michae

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-10 Thread Andrew Turner
2009/3/8 Michael G Fletcher : > Andrew, not sure if you have tried yet, but I have a friend that > bought a Dell and had no trouble getting a refund [1] :-) > > Good Luck > --Michael > > [1] http://www.ducklight.net/node/42 Michael, Thanks for the link. After confirming to Dell UK Customer Servi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-08 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Andrew Turner wrote: > Hello, > > Just got myself one of the new Dell Inspiron 15 laptops (unfortunately > with Vista - they no longer do the Ubuntu pre-installed 1525). Thought > I'd let the list know that Intrepid runs out out the box with no > problems (wireless,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-05 Thread Andrew Oakley
Matt Jones wrote: > Dell build has improved recently, apart from the odd cockup. I have a > vostro 1400 that I have had for quite a while now, compared to the > 640m I had before (Smaller inspiron 6400), it is much better. The base Yeah, I've got an Inspiron 1520 which is rock-solid, has been trun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 22:49 +, Alec Wright wrote: > I bought an inspiron 6400 with ubuntu preloaded back in the ubuntu > feisty days (about 1.5 years ago). I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree > - their build quality is poor, as is their support. I'm not going to > deny that my laptop does take a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Turner
>> Dell build has improved recently, apart from the odd cockup. I have a >> vostro 1400 that I have had for quite a while now, As I said in my original post, the build quality of my new Inspiron 15 is very good. Admittedly I've only had it 2 days, but it feels very solid. Unlike my old Evesham, on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/4 Matt Jones : > Dell build has improved recently, apart from the odd cockup. I have a > vostro 1400 that I have had for quite a while now, I thought the Vostro range were quite recent? So it can't be /that/ old. > The > build still isn't quite as good as my thinkpad, but isn't that far >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/4 Matt Jones : > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM, James Milligan wrote: >> Wow that's had a beating! You're not wrong there! :-o I do think that apart from the benefits of SSDs in laptops, once the price:capacity ratio is a bit better, that there is a market for armoured laptops. Not as m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Jones
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM, James Milligan wrote: > Wow that's had a beating! > > Also the UK hasn't conformed to the EU metric system - 'we' still use > imperial measurments. > > Dell build quality is awful. The repair shop I work at gets more Dell > PCs than anything. I haven't dealt with s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread James Milligan
Wow that's had a beating! Also the UK hasn't conformed to the EU metric system - 'we' still use imperial measurments. Dell build quality is awful. The repair shop I work at gets more Dell PCs than anything. I haven't dealt with support yet, thank God! James On 4 Mar 2009, at 22:49, Alec Wri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Alec Wright
I bought an inspiron 6400 with ubuntu preloaded back in the ubuntu feisty days (about 1.5 years ago). I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree - their build quality is poor, as is their support. I'm not going to deny that my laptop does take a bit of a beating being carried to and from school every day,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread David King
It is a real shame that Dell no longer sell the 1525 with Ubuntu. I bought one for a friend and she loves it. Now it is either a mini laptop or a much more powerful one, with the mini one being about the same price as the old 1525. Also, off topic, why has Dell gone all American on their UK sit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/4 Josh Holland : > On 04/03/2009 13:31, Andrew Turner wrote: >> That's true. If the OEM version of Vista is tied into a particular set >> of hardware, can I run it in a virtual machine? I don't want to dual >> boot this shiny new machine ;) > > I'm pretty sure that is explicitly forbidden in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Josh Holland
On 04/03/2009 13:31, Andrew Turner wrote: > That's true. If the OEM version of Vista is tied into a particular set > of hardware, can I run it in a virtual machine? I don't want to dual > boot this shiny new machine ;) I'm pretty sure that is explicitly forbidden in the EULA. Not 100% though. --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Rob Beard
On 04/03/2009 13:31, Andrew Turner wrote: >> You could use it yourself for testing. For example tools like wubi >> (windows ubuntu installer) and the live installer which allows >> migration of data from Windows partitions to Linux partitions could >> all do with testing :) >> > > That's true

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/4 Andrew Turner : >> You could use it yourself for testing. For example tools like wubi >> (windows ubuntu installer) and the live installer which allows >> migration of data from Windows partitions to Linux partitions could >> all do with testing :) > > That's true. If the OEM version of Vi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Turner
> You could use it yourself for testing. For example tools like wubi > (windows ubuntu installer) and the live installer which allows > migration of data from Windows partitions to Linux partitions could > all do with testing :) That's true. If the OEM version of Vista is tied into a particular se

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Alan Pope
2009/3/4 Andrew Turner : >> Nope, unfortunately OEM Windows licences are tied to the machine. >> You'll often find that OEM keys on branded (i.e. Dell, IBM, Acer etc) >> machines don't work anyway when used with a normal Windows disc. > > In that case, is there an Ubuntu testing team that would be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Turner
> Nope, unfortunately OEM Windows licences are tied to the machine. > You'll often find that OEM keys on branded (i.e. Dell, IBM, Acer etc) > machines don't work anyway when used with a normal Windows disc. In that case, is there an Ubuntu testing team that would be able to put it to good use? --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Rob Beard
Andrew Turner wrote: > Do you know if the EULA allows me to resell it? > Nope, unfortunately OEM Windows licences are tied to the machine. You'll often find that OEM keys on branded (i.e. Dell, IBM, Acer etc) machines don't work anyway when used with a normal Windows disc. The only versions

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread mac
Andrew Turner wrote: > Do you know if the EULA allows me to resell it? Good lord, no! It doesn't belong to you: it belongs to Steve Balmer; he's just letting you borrow it, and you musn't mess with it, copy it, sell it or breathe on it heavily! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread mac
Sean Miller wrote: > Deflation in the PC market is alarming. Laptops at £250 in Tesco, > what's that about? Guess it's about the marginal cost per chip when you're producing n*10^6 chips, and the cost of labour in Malaysia? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Turner
Do you know if the EULA allows me to resell it? 2009/3/4 Sean Miller : > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Jason Liquorish wrote: >> This is exactly what I got told for my HP laptop, and when I rang MS I >> got told it was HPs problem. Unless you have the time and patients to >> take this as far as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Rob Beard
Jason Liquorish wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > mac wrote: > >> Jon Reynolds wrote: >> >>> Well I will be very interested to see how you get on with this, if you >>> follow it up. >>> >> Yes, indeed, do let us know. You may have to go back to Microsoft,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Sean Miller
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Jason Liquorish wrote: > This is exactly what I got told for my HP laptop, and when I rang MS I > got told it was HPs problem. Unless you have the time and patients to > take this as far as possible and you document you removing XP etc. then > unfortunately I doubt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Jason Liquorish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mac wrote: > Jon Reynolds wrote: >> Well I will be very interested to see how you get on with this, if you >> follow it up. > > Yes, indeed, do let us know. You may have to go back to Microsoft, > though: I've certainly seen reports that when peop

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread mac
Jon Reynolds wrote: > Well I will be very interested to see how you get on with this, if you follow > it up. Yes, indeed, do let us know. You may have to go back to Microsoft, though: I've certainly seen reports that when people have tried to get refunds from PC or laptop makers/suppliers, th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Jon Reynolds
Well I will be very interested to see how you get on with this, if you follow it up. Jon On Wed 04/03/09 08:44 , Andrew Turner acturne...@gmail.com sent: > Just found this in the EULA:- > > "By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not > acceptthem, do not use the software. In

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Alan Jenkins
Andrew Turner wrote: > Just found this in the EULA:- > > "By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not accept > them, do not use the software. Instead, return it to the retailer for > a refund or credit. If you cannot obtain a refund there, contact > Microsoft or the Microsoft affil

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Turner
Just found this in the EULA:- "By using the software, you accept these terms. If you do not accept them, do not use the software. Instead, return it to the retailer for a refund or credit. If you cannot obtain a refund there, contact Microsoft or the Microsoft affiliate serving your country for in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Jon Reynolds
Ha! I will be amazed if that is true! Jon On Wed 04/03/09 08:12 , Andrew Turner acturne...@gmail.com sent: > > I seem to remember a thread a while back about getting a refund from > Microsoft for unwanted OEM copies of Windows - can anyone enlighten > me? > > Andrew -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubu

[ubuntu-uk] Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop

2009-03-04 Thread Andrew Turner
Hello, Just got myself one of the new Dell Inspiron 15 laptops (unfortunately with Vista - they no longer do the Ubuntu pre-installed 1525). Thought I'd let the list know that Intrepid runs out out the box with no problems (wireless, bluetooth, compiz etc all work without any configuration). I se