Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 02/05/12 23:08, Bruno Girin wrote: On 02/05/12 08:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote: The fix apparently is to fix java to export that data. That is interesting. Thanks for looking into it. But it does beg the thought... in earlier versions of Gnome/Ubuntu (10

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Bruno Girin
On 02/05/12 19:57, Paul Tansom wrote: > ** James Morrissey [2012-05-02 15:09]: >>> If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does >>> nothing >>> on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem >>> to >>> be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest yo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Bruno Girin
On 02/05/12 08:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> I had a chat with a couple of the developers today. It seems one of >> the big issues they have is that java doesn't export any information >> about the application running through X. So it doesn't let on what pi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Colin Law
On 2 May 2012 14:01, Paul Tansom wrote: > I seem to > be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2 > screens, but I've had no luck so far :( It is likely that you have a chipset (intel 945 for example) where 3d is not supported by the chipset if the virtual desktop is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Paul Tansom
** James Morrissey [2012-05-02 15:09]: > > If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does > > nothing > > on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem > > to > > be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2 > > scre

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Keith Burnett
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread James Morrissey
> If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does nothing > on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem to > be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2 > screens, but I've had no luck so far :( > It doesn't work on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Andy Braben
On 2 May 2012 14:01, Paul Tansom wrote: > ** J Fernyhough [2012-05-01 14:36]: > > On 1 May 2012 14:33, Grant Phillips-Sewell > wrote: > > > Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the > > > repositories, be required to create a .desktop file? > > > > It's not that it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Paul Tansom
** J Fernyhough [2012-05-01 14:36]: > On 1 May 2012 14:33, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote: > > Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the > > repositories, be required to create a .desktop file? > > It's not that it should - it's that you should be able to switch to > t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote: I had a chat with a couple of the developers today. It seems one of the big issues they have is that java doesn't export any information about the application running through X. So it doesn't let on what pid the windows belong to, what application is running i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/05/12 15:01, Bruno Girin wrote: > On 01/05/12 15:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: >> >> This *really* shouldn't be so hard! > > Well, Talend is based on Eclipse, which is a very complex Java app > with all sorts of weird stuff going on. Last time I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Bruno Girin
On 01/05/12 15:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > This *really* shouldn't be so hard! Well, Talend is based on Eclipse, which is a very complex Java app with all sorts of weird stuff going on. Last time I used Talend on Ubuntu, I had to compile a specific version of xulrunner from source. So you migh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread alan c
On 01/05/12 15:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 01/05/12 14:38, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, you can create a launcher in ~.local/share/applications, give it an icon, and execute the launcher in nautilus. Then once it is running, right-click on the launcher icon and "Lock to Launcher". Afte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread alan c
On 01/05/12 16:11, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 01/05/12 16:07, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, I then minimised my app and the little arrow disappeared from my Talend launcher icon and clicking on it it tries to start a new instance of the app. I really, really hate to suggest this, but l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 01/05/12 16:07, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, I then minimised my app and the little arrow disappeared from my Talend launcher icon and clicking on it it tries to start a new instance of the app. I really, really hate to suggest this, but log out and in again. Lol; it's just like bei

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-05-01 16:35, Alan Lord (News) wrote: >> Does Alt-Tab work to select the minimised window? Does the window show >> up in Expo (Super-W)? > > Alt-tab doesn;t show it, but - you sir are a star! > > The Expo (Super W) does :-) > However, I then minimised my app and the little arrow disappear

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 01/05/12 14:35, J Fernyhough wrote: Does Alt-Tab work to select the minimised window? Does the window show up in Expo (Super-W)? Alt-tab doesn;t show it, but - you sir are a star! The Expo (Super W) does :-) Thank you! Al -- Libertus Solutions http://www.libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 01/05/12 14:38, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, you can create a launcher in ~.local/share/applications, give it an icon, and execute the launcher in nautilus. Then once it is running, right-click on the launcher icon and "Lock to Launcher". After that Unity seems to index ~/.local/share/appl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Barry Drake
On 01/05/12 14:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote: I can run it from the command line, that's OK. But because of the stupid, pea-brained Unity interface, if you accidentally minimise an application which doesn't have a launcher icon then you can't get it back. Or at least I haven't found a way to yet.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Carlos Ronceros
You can use Docky or Cairo! On 01/05/12 14:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed > with it. > > I use some applications which are not packaged. > > For example, Talend. It is an Eclipse based ETL application. > > I can run it from th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-05-01 15:29, Colin Law wrote: >> Anyone got any workarounds/suggestions for this scenario? > > If you open the dash and search for the app does it find it? If so > then run it that way, and you can pin it to the launcher if you want > to. > > If not then create a .desktop file to launch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread J Fernyhough
On 1 May 2012 14:33, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote: > Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the > repositories, be required to create a .desktop file? It's not that it should - it's that you should be able to switch to that task using the Unity launcher. On 1 May 2012

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Grant Phillips-Sewell
Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the repositories, be required to create a .desktop file? Grant On May 1, 2012 2:29 PM, "Colin Law" wrote: > On 1 May 2012 14:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Colin Law
On 1 May 2012 14:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed with > it. > > I use some applications which are not packaged. > > For example, Talend. It is an Eclipse based ETL application. > > I can run it from the command line, that's OK. But

[ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed with it. I use some applications which are not packaged. For example, Talend. It is an Eclipse based ETL application. I can run it from the command line, that's OK. But because of the stupid, pea-brained Unity interface, if