Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 22:58, Jim Price wrote: > On 28/01/12 22:36, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 28 January 2012 22:12, Jim Price  wrote: >>> >>> On 28/01/12 21:13, Liam Proven wrote: On 28 January 2012 19:10, Barry Drake  wrote: > > On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: > > > [s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Price
On 28/01/12 22:36, Liam Proven wrote: On 28 January 2012 22:12, Jim Price wrote: On 28/01/12 21:13, Liam Proven wrote: On 28 January 2012 19:10, Barry Drakewrote: On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: [snippage for brevity] There are boot floppy images for free download on: http://www.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 22:12, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Liam, > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:24:52PM +, Liam Proven wrote: >> Well, in theory, if you paid Kroll Ontrack £LOTS then they claim to be >> able to get much or all of the data off a zero-overwritten drive by >> meticulously examining the ver

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 22:12, Jim Price wrote: > On 28/01/12 21:13, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 28 January 2012 19:10, Barry Drake  wrote: >>> >>> On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: There are boot floppy images for free download on: http://www.bootdisk.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Free

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Price
On 28/01/12 21:13, Liam Proven wrote: On 28 January 2012 19:10, Barry Drake wrote: On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: There are boot floppy images for free download on: http://www.bootdisk.com/ Free download? �The guy seems to want me to pay $4 for any of his downloads. �Could be worth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Liam, On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:24:52PM +, Liam Proven wrote: > Well, in theory, if you paid Kroll Ontrack £LOTS then they claim to be > able to get much or all of the data off a zero-overwritten drive by > meticulously examining the very edge of the tracks for a sort of > magnetic overspi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 20:31, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:16:19PM +, paul sutton wrote: >> On 28/01/12 18:40, scoundrel50a wrote: >> > What is so wrong about wanting to be able to securely wipe an >> > hdd.and why do people feel the need to be so condescendi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 20:29, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Nick, > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:00:10PM +, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: >> Just curious to know this, as I don't format disks too often, but does >> formatting a HD rid it of any bad sectors? I assume not, but I'm a tad >> perplexed!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 20:14, Barry Drake wrote: > On 28/01/12 20:00, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: >> >> Just curious to know this, as I don't format disks too often, but does >> formatting a HD rid it of any bad sectors? I assume not, but I'm a tad >> perplexed! > > AFAIK the bad sectors on SMART

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 20:10, paul sutton wrote: > Back then you could create a boot disk and boot Linux from that, Er... You still can...? Or am I missing something? The machine I'm typing on has 2 versions of Ubuntu, DOS, WinXP and Win7. > it > would then point to the right place on the hdd,  so

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 20:00, wrote: > Just curious to know this, as I don't format disks too often, but does > formatting a HD rid it of any bad sectors? I assume not, but I'm a tad > perplexed! No. Bad sectors are a hardware failure. "Quick formatting" /can/ in theory re-mark bad blocks as usab

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 19:10, Barry Drake wrote: > On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> There are boot floppy images for free download on: >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ > > > Free download?  The guy seems to want me to pay $4 for any of his downloads. >  Could be worth it, but I'll stick with Clo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 19:02, Barry Drake wrote: > On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 28 January 2012 16:27, Ted Wager  wrote: >>> >>> I am not bothered. abt the data..All I want is for the machine to boot >>> from the hdd so the buyer can install an os. If they want a Linux system >>> I w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Paul, On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:16:19PM +, paul sutton wrote: > On 28/01/12 18:40, scoundrel50a wrote: > > What is so wrong about wanting to be able to securely wipe an > > hdd.and why do people feel the need to be so condescending > > when somebody asks about it...trying to ma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Nick, On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:00:10PM +, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: > Just curious to know this, as I don't format disks too often, but does > formatting a HD rid it of any bad sectors? I assume not, but I'm a tad > perplexed! Not as such. Also it depends what you mean by "forma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread paul sutton
On 28/01/12 18:40, scoundrel50a wrote: > On 28/01/12 16:27, Ted Wager wrote: >> On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 14:46 +, Andy Smith wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:41:36AM +, Ted Wager wrote: I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of however the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
On 28/01/12 20:00, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: Just curious to know this, as I don't format disks too often, but does formatting a HD rid it of any bad sectors? I assume not, but I'm a tad perplexed! AFAIK the bad sectors on SMART aware drives are re-located and won't be restored when f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread paul sutton
On 28/01/12 17:55, Liam Proven wrote: > On 28 January 2012 17:44, Barry Drake wrote: >> I understand the problem. Windows (any version) refuses to install >> unless you try to install to a drive with a valid boot record. > What? No it doesn't! > > Depends on the version. I don't think I have ever

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread thegeeksquadron
Just curious to know this, as I don't format disks too often, but does formatting a HD rid it of any bad sectors? I assume not, but I'm a tad perplexed! Nick -- -Original Message- From: Barry Drake Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:10:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello scoundrel50a, On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 06:40:33PM +, scoundrel50a wrote: > What is so wrong about wanting to be able to securely wipe an > hdd. Nothing. As I stated, a simple single pass of dd is all that's needed to practically do that, and if you need more than that then DBAN

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: There are boot floppy images for free download on: http://www.bootdisk.com/ Free download? The guy seems to want me to pay $4 for any of his downloads. Could be worth it, but I'll stick with Clonezilla as it doesn't cost even $1. Regards,Barr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
On 28/01/12 17:31, Liam Proven wrote: On 28 January 2012 16:27, Ted Wager wrote: I am not bothered. abt the data..All I want is for the machine to boot from the hdd so the buyer can install an os. If they want a Linux system I will install it but if they want Windows they are on their own. Use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread scoundrel50a
On 28/01/12 16:27, Ted Wager wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 14:46 +, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:41:36AM +, Ted Wager wrote: I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of however the mbrr was not formatted and they still boot from grub. Anyone

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 17:44, Barry Drake wrote: > > I understand the problem.  Windows (any version) refuses to install > unless you try to install to a drive with a valid boot record. What? No it doesn't! Depends on the version. I don't think I have ever met a version that won't install *at all* b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Barry Drake
On 28/01/12 16:34, Colin Law wrote: To install an OS it is not necessary to boot from hdd, boot from either linux or windows CD/DVD. If you make the disk completely blank as you originally asked it will not be able to boot from the hdd as it will be blank. Colin I understand the problem.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Liam Proven
On 28 January 2012 16:27, Ted Wager wrote: > I am not bothered. abt the data..All I want is for the machine to boot > from the hdd so the buyer can install an os. If they want a Linux system > I will install it but if they want Windows they are on their own. Use a DOS boot floppy - or USB stick -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Colin Law
On 28 January 2012 16:27, Ted Wager wrote: > > I am not bothered. abt the data..All I want is for the machine to boot > from the hdd so the buyer can install an os. If they want a Linux system > I will install it but if they want Windows they are on their own. To install an OS it is not necessary

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Ted Wager
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 14:46 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:41:36AM +, Ted Wager wrote: > > I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of > > however the mbrr was not formatted and they still boot from grub. > > Anyone tell me how I format

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:41:36AM +, Ted Wager wrote: > I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of > however the mbrr was not formatted and they still boot from grub. > Anyone tell me how I format the drive so it is completely blank ? Ah, the old "how do I secu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Ged Byrom
On 28 January 2012 10:41, Ted Wager wrote: > I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of > however the mbrr was not formatted and they still boot from grub. > Anyone tell me how I format the drive so it is completely blank ? > Regards > Ted Wager > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lis

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Alan Pope
On 28/01/12 10:41, Ted Wager wrote: I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of however the mbrr was not formatted and they still boot from grub. Anyone tell me how I format the drive so it is completely blank ? http://www.dban.org/ - Darik's Boot and Nuke. The canonica

[ubuntu-uk] mbr

2012-01-28 Thread Ted Wager
I used gparted to blank a couple of hdd's that I am getting rid of however the mbrr was not formatted and they still boot from grub. Anyone tell me how I format the drive so it is completely blank ? Regards Ted Wager -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubun