Chris Rowson wrote:
> > I can also understand a general unwillingness to disconnect software
> > from the license under which it is made available; I don't see
> > what's gained from splitting them. Why would you wish to be able to
> > ban non-Open source products from tendering?
> >
> You wouldn't
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Alan Bell wrote:
> On 19/11/11 20:33, Chris Rowson wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I did wonder if anyone on the list had responded to the Cabinet Office
>> consultation :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> I am kind of involved in the process (funny how Ubuntu ended up on the
> list isn't it? . .
On 19/11/11 20:33, Chris Rowson wrote:
I did wonder if anyone on the list had responded to the Cabinet Office
consultation :-)
I am kind of involved in the process (funny how Ubuntu ended up on the
list isn't it? . . .)
It is hugely political, and a bit "Yes Minister"ish but yeah there
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 21:37 +, alan c wrote:
> On 19/11/11 20:40, Juan J. MartÃnez wrote:
> > I don't know the details about UK gov, but in Spain the government pays
> > an absurd amount of money just for the licenses, and then pays for
> > support... frequently from a third party (probably the
On 19/11/11 20:40, Juan J. MartÃnez wrote:
> I don't know the details about UK gov, but in Spain the government pays
> an absurd amount of money just for the licenses, and then pays for
> support... frequently from a third party (probably the vendor providing
> the hardware, with a partnership with
On 19/11/11 21:03, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> Chris Rowson wrote:
>
>> The bit that jumped out at me personally was the legal definition of
>> open source as a product rather than a feature. I wondered if this
>> might make it difficult to specify open source as a requirement in a
>> tender (because i
>
>
> I can also understand a general unwillingness to disconnect software
> from the license under which it is made available; I don't see what's
> gained from splitting them. Why would you wish to be able to ban
> non-Open source products from tendering?
>
>
>
You wouldn't want to ban non-open so
On 19/11/11 20:33, Chris Rowson wrote:
>>
>>
>> > The 'All About Open Source' document is particularly interesting
>> > because it explains why UK.gov can't mandate Open Source software.
>> > It's not entirely straight forward; I'm not entirely sure, but I
>> > think it means to say that UK.gov con
Chris Rowson wrote:
> The bit that jumped out at me personally was the legal definition of
> open source as a product rather than a feature. I wondered if this
> might make it difficult to specify open source as a requirement in a
> tender (because it seems that as far as the legal definition in t
On 19/11/11 20:24, Barry Drake wrote:
> On 19/11/11 14:45, Chris Rowson wrote:
>> I thought some of you might be interested in this recent guidance
>> released by the Cabinet Office on Open Source Software:
> I'm quite excited by this. I had already contacted my MP, MEP, local
> councillor and C
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 20:09 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> Chris Rowson wrote:
>
> > The 'All About Open Source' document is particularly interesting
> > because it explains why UK.gov can't mandate Open Source software.
> > It's not entirely straight forward; I'm not entirely sure, but I
> > think
>
>
> > The 'All About Open Source' document is particularly interesting
> > because it explains why UK.gov can't mandate Open Source software.
> > It's not entirely straight forward; I'm not entirely sure, but I
> > think it means to say that UK.gov considers 'Open Source' a product
> > (perhaps l
On 19/11/11 14:45, Chris Rowson wrote:
I thought some of you might be interested in this recent guidance
released by the Cabinet Office on Open Source Software:
I'm quite excited by this. I had already contacted my MP, MEP, local
councillor and County Councillor about Open Standards. Now I've
Chris Rowson wrote:
> The 'All About Open Source' document is particularly interesting
> because it explains why UK.gov can't mandate Open Source software.
> It's not entirely straight forward; I'm not entirely sure, but I
> think it means to say that UK.gov considers 'Open Source' a product
> (pe
On 19/11/11 14:45, Chris Rowson wrote:
> I thought some of you might be interested in this recent guidance released
> by the Cabinet Office on Open Source Software:
>
> http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/open-source-procurement-toolkit
>
> It's publicly accessible so you don't need
I thought some of you might be interested in this recent guidance released
by the Cabinet Office on Open Source Software:
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/open-source-procurement-toolkit
It's publicly accessible so you don't need a .gov.uk address to get access,
and it might be he
I fail to see a market for selling machines with no OS! That's far too
niche for my liking. The fact is you have to install something. And I've
been through all this with him and sent him scurrying back to his boss with
a corrected view of my proposal. Lol
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Bruno G
On 19/11/11 11:06, Gareth France wrote:
I have an appointment with Lloyds next week. Bare in mind I'm not
trying to sell the bank software, but they are getting cold feet about
the idea of me selling a PC with software on.
I understand that. I was only saying that in my experience banks have a
I have an appointment with Lloyds next week. Bare in mind I'm not trying to
sell the bank software, but they are getting cold feet about the idea of me
selling a PC with software on.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Bruno Girin wrote:
> On 19/11/11 10:20, Gareth France wrote:
>
>> Barclays are
On 19/11/11 10:20, Gareth France wrote:
Barclays are the ones who refused me. HSBC are the ones who seem to be
allergic to software. I wonder if their own PC's had pre-installed OSs
and if so where do the people they bought from bank?
Funny that, I didn't have any problem opening a business
It's way too early for that at the moment. I'd like to get on my feet
first. By the way, I had forgotten how much I HATED working with zen cart.
There's far too many options and far too many things I don't seem to have
options for. However the website is now up and running, in all it's default
cont
On 19/11/11 10:20, Gareth France wrote:
I think carousel fraud involves claiming a VAT refund from the British
government for items that you claim to have purchased abroad. By the
time the paperwork has caught up you are long gone with the money. Small
high value items are the favourite subject
On 19/11/11 09:28, Gareth France wrote:
I have no interest in borrowing money whatsoever. I'm hoping to
develop in the direction of group meets, training days etc. I'm
intrigued by the idea of install fests, plenty of opportunities out there.
sounds great, and the LoCo team is here to support
Barclays are the ones who refused me. HSBC are the ones who seem to be
allergic to software. I wonder if their own PC's had pre-installed OSs and
if so where do the people they bought from bank?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Barry Titterton <
barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com> wrote:
> On Fr
On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 23:32 +, Gareth France wrote:
> Recently I decided to do my part by starting up a small business
> selling machines with Ubuntu pre-installed and offering support. My
> bank have refused to offer me a business account at all 'because it's
> too risky to open an account fo
That's worth bearing in mind. I'll add it to my list of things to
investigate next week.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM, john beddard wrote:
> On 19/11/11 09:28, Gareth France wrote:
> > I have no interest in borrowing money whatsoever. I'm hoping to develop
> in
> > the direction of group meets
On 19/11/11 09:28, Gareth France wrote:
> I have no interest in borrowing money whatsoever. I'm hoping to develop in
> the direction of group meets, training days etc. I'm intrigued by the idea
> of install fests, plenty of opportunities out there.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:21 AM, john beddard
I have no interest in borrowing money whatsoever. I'm hoping to develop in
the direction of group meets, training days etc. I'm intrigued by the idea
of install fests, plenty of opportunities out there.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:21 AM, john beddard wrote:
> On 19/11/11 00:50, Gareth France wrote:
On 19/11/11 00:50, Gareth France wrote:
> Naturally everything is in it's infancy right now. I'll be providing a mix
> of new and reasonable spec second hand machines. Expect the range to be
> rather limited at first but I'll be looking to grow it quite quickly.
>
> The website isn't up just yet b
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