Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread David D Lowe
On 16/09/10 22:02, Tommy Pyatt wrote: > You may be able to compress it first into a .tar.gz or other compressed > archive of some sort, then you could store it anywhere. I think I've > done that before, but i'm not certain. > > Last time I tried that, it took half an hour before spitting out an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO

2010-09-16 Thread David King
Alan Pope wrote: > On 15 September 2010 09:10, Mark Harrison wrote: > >> 1: I've not used MS Office for about 5 years now, however the one time I >> needed to was in 2007 for a really complex mailmerge, which is one area >> where MSO is still better than OOo :-( >> > I once made the mistak

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-16 Thread Jim Price
On 16/09/10 18:24, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > so I can't get ubuntu NBR You can - just install whatever ubuntu 10.04 you can by whatever means, then install the ubuntu-netbook package, which will bring with it the rest of the bits you need for the netbook interface. I've not tried it, so I can't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Grant Sewell
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:03:25 +0100 pmgazz wrote: > > On 16/09/10 18:48, Alan Bell wrote: > > > > The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I > > have it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64 > > bit. > > > > Alan. > > > Nu-uh, I emailed BBC and they s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Tony Pursell
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:21 +0100, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > flash doesn't work properly at all on mine, how did you get it to > work? > > On 16 September 2010 18:19, Tony Pursell > wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote: > > Well that answers par

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Tommy Pyatt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/09/10 18:45, David D Lowe wrote: > Which filesystems are suitable for one's home directory backups? > > I assume Fat32 is a no-no, but what about NTFS, which supports POSIX > case-sensitive filenames and file permissions? > > Or do I have to u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
silly bbc On 16 September 2010 19:03, pmgazz wrote: > > On 16/09/10 18:48, Alan Bell wrote: > > > The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I have > it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64 bit. > > Alan. > > > Nu-uh, I emailed BBC and they said only wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
On 16/09/10 18:48, Alan Bell wrote: The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I have it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64 bit. Alan. Nu-uh, I emailed BBC and they said only works up to Karmic. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://list

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bell
On 16/09/10 13:46, pmgazz wrote: > I had a similar heart-searching around Adobe Air - I work with > non-profits for whom fundraising is core - most funders issue > badly-constructed pdf forms and trying to fill these in with Evince is > still a work in progress. I can manage to do it because I know

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread David D Lowe
Which filesystems are suitable for one's home directory backups? I assume Fat32 is a no-no, but what about NTFS, which supports POSIX case-sensitive filenames and file permissions? Or do I have to use a traditional Linux filesystem like ext3? David D Lowe -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
This may be of interest: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
Don't understand, Lucid64 install, flash works (10.1.82.76) and BBC iPlayer works (Air not installed) what am I missing? I mean the Desktop version, the browser version works OK. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
On 16 September 2010 18:21, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > flash doesn't work properly at all on mine, how did you get it to work? > > > On 16 September 2010 18:19, Tony Pursell wrote: > >> On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote: >> > Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
so I can't get ubuntu NBR On 16 September 2010 18:13, Jim Price wrote: > On 16/09/10 17:28, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > > so you're saying I should just be able to put the live cd in one of my > > machines, then use a network boot over the lan > > Yes, but this only works for the Edubuntu 10.04 DVD

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
flash doesn't work properly at all on mine, how did you get it to work? On 16 September 2010 18:19, Tony Pursell wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote: > > Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit > > browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine. > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Tony Pursell
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote: > Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit > browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine. > > > Steve It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because that needs Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-16 Thread Jim Price
On 16/09/10 17:28, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > so you're saying I should just be able to put the live cd in one of my > machines, then use a network boot over the lan Yes, but this only works for the Edubuntu 10.04 DVD, not the other 'buntus. I know it gets you as far as booting an Edubuntu client o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine. Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] meeting tonight 9PM

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I'll try and make it On 16 September 2010 18:03, Alan Bell wrote: > Hi all, > > we have an IRC meeting this evening, it is in the #ubuntu-uk-meeting > channel on freenode which you can get to using xchat or other IRC > clients or even a web browser, if you have one of those newfangled > things, b

[ubuntu-uk] meeting tonight 9PM

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bell
Hi all, we have an IRC meeting this evening, it is in the #ubuntu-uk-meeting channel on freenode which you can get to using xchat or other IRC clients or even a web browser, if you have one of those newfangled things, by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-uk-meeting agenda is in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html On 16 September 2010 17:48, Steve Fisher wrote: > Don't understand, Lucid64 install, flash works (10.1.82.76) and BBC iPlayer > works (Air not installed) what am I missing? > > Steve > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
Don't understand, Lucid64 install, flash works (10.1.82.76) and BBC iPlayer works (Air not installed) what am I missing? Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I currently don't like adobe because of the lack of x64 support for flash > no web games/movies On 16 September 2010 13:46, pmgazz wrote: > I had a similar heart-searching around Adobe Air - I work with non-profits > for whom fundraising is core - most funders issue badly-constructed pdf > form

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
so you're saying I should just be able to put the live cd in one of my machines, then use a network boot over the lan On 16 September 2010 14:30, Jim Price wrote: > On 16/09/10 08:24, Neil Greenwood wrote: > > On 15 September 2010 19:44, Jacob Mansfield > wrote: > >> surely I could just put the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gwibber account window spontaneously opening

2010-09-16 Thread John Matthews
On 16/09/10 13:37, pmgazz wrote: > >> FYI, the fix for this is to go to the twitter account, authorise it then >> make sure you press save, have to press save or it'll keep coming back >> >> > Tried this already - didn't work. Just starts doing it again and when > I check Twitter is unauthor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gwibber account window spontaneously opening

2010-09-16 Thread John Matthews
On 16/09/10 13:37, pmgazz wrote: > >> FYI, the fix for this is to go to the twitter account, authorise it then >> make sure you press save, have to press save or it'll keep coming back >> >> > Tried this already - didn't work. Just starts doing it again and when > I check Twitter is unauthor

[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Ubuntu Open Week, request for instructors

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Pope
If anyone would like to _give_ a talk/session, please get in contact with Jorge. See the links below. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jorge O. Castro Date: 16 September 2010 15:23 Subject: Ubuntu Open Week, request for instructors To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts" ,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Glen Mehn
On 16/09/2010 10:33, Norman Silverstone wrote: >>> I frequently read that, before carrying out various operations, one >>> should first backup the home folder. Does this mean simply taking a CD >>> and copying the home folder to it? >> This is absolutely possible although probably not totally nec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-16 Thread Jim Price
On 16/09/10 08:24, Neil Greenwood wrote: > On 15 September 2010 19:44, Jacob Mansfield wrote: >> surely I could just put the live CD onto my working ubuntu desktop and do a >> PXE boot to it >> > > You would need to set up the infrastructure that will supply the PXE > boot information to the netbo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
Reinstalling using the existing home folder is a fabulous idea thanks! But you still need to back up in case of problems. And I back up constantly anyway in case I accidentally delete files myself or am struck by lightning etc etc. I use rsnapshot, which keeps rotating timed backups in a very

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
To achieve a reinstall/upgrade of this nature simply boot from a recent CD and when you get to the partitioning step, choose to 'manually' partition the disk. Choose where you want to install and make sure 'Format' is _not_ ticked. The installer will go through /bin, /usr, /var, /etc, /lib and s

[ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
I had a similar heart-searching around Adobe Air - I work with non-profits for whom fundraising is core - most funders issue badly-constructed pdf forms and trying to fill these in with Evince is still a work in progress. I can manage to do it because I know Evince fairly well and what it can a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gwibber account window spontaneously opening

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
FYI, the fix for this is to go to the twitter account, authorise it then make sure you press save, have to press save or it'll keep coming back Tried this already - didn't work. Just starts doing it again and when I check Twitter is unauthorised again. Have had to remove Gwibber as it's t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 16 September 2010 10:29, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 September 2010 10:24, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: >> Which distro installers support this? > > It's a feature of Ubiquity. I do not know if the alternate CD also has > the feature because I've not tried it recently. > For those that don't know, Ubi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 September 2010 10:29, ian pettitt wrote: > I was unaware of this useful feature - I am very cautious when using the > partitioner :-) > Some are less cautious, and "discover" the feature by accident. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-September/228201.html (read entire th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > I frequently read that, before carrying out various operations, one > > should first backup the home folder. Does this mean simply taking a CD > > and copying the home folder to it? > > This is absolutely possible although probably not totally necessary. > > > Assuming that this is correct d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 September 2010 10:24, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > Which distro installers support this? It's a feature of Ubiquity. I do not know if the alternate CD also has the feature because I've not tried it recently. > They actually "rm -rf" those directories > first? Yes. > If so, this is indeed an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread ian pettitt
On 16/09/10 09:55, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 September 2010 09:05, ian pettitt wrote: >> I think that is correct. I have my /home on a separate partition to the >> system (/), so when I have reinstalled my data, settings, email etc. are >> retained >> > > I've lost count of how many times I've said

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Thursday 16 Sep 2010 09:55:33 Alan Pope wrote: > To achieve a reinstall/upgrade of this nature simply boot from a > recent CD and when you get to the partitioning step, choose to > 'manually' partition the disk. Choose where you want to install and > make sure 'Format' is _not_ ticked. The insta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 16/09/10 08:58, Norman Silverstone wrote: > I frequently read that, before carrying out various operations, one > should first backup the home folder. Does this mean simply taking a CD > and copying the home folder to it? This is absolutely possible although probably not totally necessary. > A

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 September 2010 09:05, ian pettitt wrote: > I think that is correct. I have my /home on a separate partition to the > system (/), so when I have reinstalled my data, settings, email etc. are > retained > I've lost count of how many times I've said this but it seems many people don't know. Y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gwibber account window spontaneously opening

2010-09-16 Thread Gordon Allott
On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 12:09 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: > On 10 September 2010 12:08, pmgazz wrote: > > On 10.04 Gwibber has suddenly started opening the add account window > > spontaneously whether Gwibber is running or not. Anyone else getting this? > > I am getting this as well; I don't know why

Re: [ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread ian pettitt
On 16/09/10 08:58, Norman Silverstone wrote: > I frequently read that, before carrying out various operations, one > should first backup the home folder. Does this mean simply taking a CD > and copying the home folder to it? > > Assuming that this is correct does it mean that if I mess things up or

[ubuntu-uk] backup home folder

2010-09-16 Thread Norman Silverstone
I frequently read that, before carrying out various operations, one should first backup the home folder. Does this mean simply taking a CD and copying the home folder to it? Assuming that this is correct does it mean that if I mess things up or even have to re-install Ubuntu from scratch, copying

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Wubi on a dual partition machine

2010-09-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 15 September 2010 19:44, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > surely I could just put the live CD onto my working ubuntu desktop and do a > PXE boot to it > You would need to set up the infrastructure that will supply the PXE boot information to the netbook. I've not done this, but I think you need: - a