Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Bell wrote: > I am with the desktop crowd (small as it is) > GDM doesn't consume many resources, if left logged out on the GDM screen > it won't chew memory, processor or open any external ports (neither does > X/Gnome itself by default). When the full desktop is running it will use > extra re

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread etali
Alan Bell wrote: > When the full desktop is running it will use > extra resources but that is fine. If I am giving a customer their first > Ubuntu server for them to mostly leave well alone I would put the > desktop on it, with Compiz and all the eye candy turned on! I want them > to see that on t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Alan Bell
I am with the desktop crowd (small as it is) GDM doesn't consume many resources, if left logged out on the GDM screen it won't chew memory, processor or open any external ports (neither does X/Gnome itself by default). When the full desktop is running it will use extra resources but that is fine. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Tony Travis
etali wrote: > [...] > If you have the luxury of powerful hardware, and enough knowledge to do > things both ways, then of course - use what works for you. I do think > that newbies should learn things "the hard way" though. In the past few > months, on test machines, I've had Webmin throw a fit

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread etali
Tony Travis wrote: > I'd be interested to know if anyone has actually instrumented the vast > resources used when running a GUI on a modern server: In my experience, > the impact is minimal even on a very ordinary 2p server with 3GiB RAM. > Much less so on a 4p server with 8GiB. Where it has a b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

2009-11-13 Thread Paul Roach
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jon Spriggs wrote: > Just out of interest, what boxes did horde fail to tick? I've been very > enthusiastic about their systems in the past, and I'm fairly confident that > having the IMAP set up properly behind the scenes should give you a > comprehensive exchang

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Rob Beard
Tony Travis wrote: > Rob Beard wrote: > >> [...] >> The only time I would install a complete desktop on a server is if it is >> to run as an LTSP server. Then it can need everything a desktop >> requires. When I last installed an LTSP server I was also pleased to >> see that FreeNX works with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Tony Travis
Chris Ray wrote: > Thanks for all the comments guys. As I see it then; in answer to the > specific question, the majority opinion is to add the GUI to the server > install rather than the other way around.. > > In answer to the more general question "why do I want to do that", my > experience is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What webcam?

2009-11-13 Thread Keith Powell
Thank you all for your help and all the information you have given. There is a lot to read! I agree that webcams are a minefield. In my experiments, I have found that mine works with some programs but not with others. Different distros give different results. There seems to be no consistency.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Chris Ray
Thanks for all the comments guys. As I see it then; in answer to the specific question, the majority opinion is to add the GUI to the server install rather than the other way around.. In answer to the more general question "why do I want to do that", my experience is this: I agree with apparen

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Tony Travis : > Rob Beard wrote: >> [...] >> The only time I would install a complete desktop on a server is if it is >> to run as an LTSP server. Then it can need everything a desktop >> requires. When I last installed an LTSP server I was also pleased to >> see that FreeNX works with i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-13 Thread Tony Travis
Rob Beard wrote: > [...] > The only time I would install a complete desktop on a server is if it is > to run as an LTSP server. Then it can need everything a desktop > requires. When I last installed an LTSP server I was also pleased to > see that FreeNX works with it as well. :-) Hello, Rob. I