Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

2009-05-31 Thread mac
Michael Douglas wrote: > mac wrote: >> What did you reckon? Worth a look? Worth a 25GBP/yr subscription? > Dunno, only had a 2 second look at it. I'll see if it is in border's > today before I start work and I'll report back. Thanks. Looking forward to hearing what you think. mac -- ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
mac wrote: > Michael Douglas wrote: > >> mac wrote: >> >>> Anyone seen a physical copy of this, yet? >>> >> Yes. Hamilton, WH Smith's had a copy. I think Borders in Glasgow did >> too? I can't remember. >> > > What did you reckon? Worth a look? Worth a 25GBP/yr subscription? >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

2009-05-31 Thread mac
Michael Douglas wrote: > mac wrote: >> Anyone seen a physical copy of this, yet? > Yes. Hamilton, WH Smith's had a copy. I think Borders in Glasgow did > too? I can't remember. What did you reckon? Worth a look? Worth a 25GBP/yr subscription? mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

2009-05-31 Thread mac
Anyone seen a physical copy of this, yet? http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/online/news/linux_new_media_launches_ubuntu_user_magazine mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
mac wrote: > Anyone seen a physical copy of this, yet? > > http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/online/news/linux_new_media_launches_ubuntu_user_magazine > > mac > > > Yes. Hamilton, WH Smith's had a copy. I think Borders in Glasgow did too? I can't remember. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https:/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread mac
Michael Douglas wrote: > Thomas Ibbotson wrote: >> There is also no need for bottom posting if you use thunderbird with >> thread view, as everyone could simply not include the previous messages > And if you ARE including all the previous stuff, bottom posting means > the read it in the correct

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > alan c wrote: > > I also use thunderbird with the view set to see threads. I also 'replay' > the thread by clicking on each message in turn. I find that big threads > can get quite unwieldly in thunderbird (i.e. when the subject line is > indented past the end of the sub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
alan c wrote: > Thomas Ibbotson wrote: >> James Milligan wrote: >>> Good old popey.com ;-) >>> >>> Also noting someones earlier email - is it considered 'proper >>> etiquette' to reply to a list email below the quoted text? If so I >>> apologise. >>> >> Wikipedia has an article on posting style

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread alan c
Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > James Milligan wrote: >> Good old popey.com ;-) >> >> Also noting someones earlier email - is it considered 'proper >> etiquette' to reply to a list email below the quoted text? If so I >> apologise. >> > Wikipedia has an article on posting style > (http://en.wikiped

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
James Milligan wrote: > Good old popey.com ;-) > > Also noting someones earlier email - is it considered 'proper > etiquette' to reply to a list email below the quoted text? If so I > apologise. > Wikipedia has an article on posting style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style) Of cour

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Good old popey.com ;-) Also noting someones earlier email - is it considered 'proper etiquette' to reply to a list email below the quoted text? If so I apologise. James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 20:05

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scambled screen & Beginning Ubuntu

2009-05-31 Thread Roger Lancefield
2009/5/31 Greg Herdman > Hi Everyone, > I too can vouch for Keir Thomas & Jaime Sicam's book - although it > hasn't got me out of my scrambled scren 'hole' yet, it was a real > support while I was styarting out on the Linux road. Add to that the > Live user mode on the DVD which is still in use u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 alan c : > Car back bumper, bike front mudguard, front window of house,  :-) > back of laptop lid . I have a Debian sticker on the back of my car. It's been there for ... let me see... http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/v/bbq3/Img_309.jpg.html "Date: 16/08/04" Nearly 5 years. :) Ch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
I'll be sticking a few on my new PC case - a Thermaltake Kandalf VD4000BWS hopefully ;-) Should look even better with ubuntu plastered on it :-) James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 19:33, alan c wrote: >

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-05-31 Thread alan c
James Milligan wrote: > Also the CDs you order through shipit come with 4 stickers each I > think. I've got a fair few here. Need to stick them somewhere actually. Car back bumper, bike front mudguard, front window of house, :-) back of laptop lid . On a car back bumper they last about 6 mo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Also the CDs you order through shipit come with 4 stickers each I think. I've got a fair few here. Need to stick them somewhere actually. James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 17:24, Tony Travis wrote: > Edd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Ah right thanks for that. That kinda makes sense now. Can you remember how much it was to have the branding? James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 16:46, Eddie Bernard wrote: >> From: Paul Broadhead >> Subj

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Tony Travis
Eddie Bernard wrote: >> [...] > In other words, it's a question of branding, rather than getting > permission to use the software. If you don't use the branding, you > don't pay anything. Hello, Eddie. What if you sell the PC's pre-loaded with Ubuntu, and give your customers an Ubuntu sticker as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Eddie Bernard
> From: Paul Broadhead > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than > Alan Pope wrote: > >> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM >> wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to >> Canonical for the use of the trademarked

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scambled screen & Beginning Ubuntu

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Can only say +1 to the live cd. It's invaluable for me at the moment till I can fix my windows pc. Unfortunately I don't think I can help, although there is something in that book about scrambled screens. Try looking in the index for it. James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.c

[ubuntu-uk] Scambled screen & Beginning Ubuntu

2009-05-31 Thread Greg Herdman
Hi Everyone, I too can vouch for Keir Thomas & Jaime Sicam's book - although it hasn't got me out of my scrambled scren 'hole' yet, it was a real support while I was styarting out on the Linux road. Add to that the Live user mode on the DVD which is still in use until I can summon up the courag

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
Paul Broadhead wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > >> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM >> wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to >> Canonical for the use of the trademarked name. I believe there are >> also restrictions upon what you can do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Douglas
Dell are also paid, as all OEMs are, to bundle crapware with windows installations. Trial versions of Symantec, etc. This cuts the cost of XP to nothing or often less than nothing. Paul Broadhead wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > >> As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any O

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Broadhead
Alan Pope wrote: > As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM > wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to > Canonical for the use of the trademarked name. I believe there are > also restrictions upon what you can do, for example you can't > pre-inst

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Ok, and also thanks Steve. James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 14:37, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/5/31 James Milligan : >> Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to >> pay that as wel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 James Milligan : > Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to > pay that as well? > You'd need to check with the OEM team at Canonical about that. I suspect the answer is yes, assuming the store is selling machines in the same way that Dell is. Cheers, Al. --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Steve Cook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Milligan wrote: > Ah right. Makes more sense now. > > Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to > pay that as well? > > I think I remember hearing about something like this a while back on > the list. > > Thanks

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Ah right. Makes more sense now. Would a small independent store (like I've been asking about) need to pay that as well? I think I remember hearing about something like this a while back on the list. Thanks James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 James Milligan : > Boom! That's me out of the water lol. Are they made to pay for it or > out of 'generosity'? > As I understand it (i.e. this may be factually inaccurate) any OEM wishing to sell Ubuntu branded as Ubuntu needs to pay a license to Canonical for the use of the trademarked

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
Boom! That's me out of the water lol. Are they made to pay for it or out of 'generosity'? James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 14:15, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/5/31 James Milligan : >> How can they charge mor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 James Milligan : > How can they charge more? They get the thing for free! They don't. It doesn't cost Dell much as I understand it, but they do pay for Ubuntu. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread James Milligan
How can they charge more? They get the thing for free! Well, we presume they do... I guess it's paying for training and support etc. If so that isn't so bad James -- James Milligan lak...@lake54.com www.lake54.com www.killermentality.com www.twitter.com/lake54 On 31 May 2009, at 13:04, Paul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Alan Pope
2009/5/31 Paul Broadhead : > Needless to say, I'm not buying one. If you wanted one, get the xp one, dont accept the license, send it back and ask for a refund. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] Dell mini 10v costs more with Ubuntu than with XP

2009-05-31 Thread Paul Broadhead
Great, dell are selling their Inspiron Mini 10v preloaded with Ubuntu 8.04. The base system with a 8GB SSD is priced at 199 pounds. You can even upgrade the spec to be the same as the XP version, i.e. with a 160GB hard drive. The problem is with that upgrade the Ubuntu machine costs 258 pounds whi