[ubuntu-uk] Difference between Admin and Root?

2007-10-21 Thread Mac
I have a single-user system, and - while playing / investigating - I tried changing my user password. I was interested to notice that this, rather than root's password was then the one required by 'sudo...'. I suppose I'd sort of expected that 'sudo' would require the root password, and that w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tesco Selling Ubuntu 6.06 Machines - Good value.

2007-10-21 Thread John Levin
Alec Wright wrote: > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 21:16 +0100, Matthew Larsen wrote: >> Is there a page on the wiki / ubuntu main for links to these manufacturers? >> >> Regards, > Do you mean of companies who sell pcs with ubuntu preinstalled? If so, I > just started one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/U

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tesco Selling Ubuntu 6.06 Machines - Good value.

2007-10-21 Thread Alec Wright
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 21:16 +0100, Matthew Larsen wrote: > Is there a page on the wiki / ubuntu main for links to these manufacturers? > > Regards, Do you mean of companies who sell pcs with ubuntu preinstalled? If so, I just started one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/UbuntuPreinstalled -- Alec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tesco Selling Ubuntu 6.06 Machines - Good value.

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew Larsen
Is there a page on the wiki / ubuntu main for links to these manufacturers? Regards, On 21/10/2007, Daniel Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Maybe someone should actually mention esys are making the pcs and laptops: > > http://www.esysglobal.com/contents/products/epc-with-linux.html#lapto

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew Larsen
oh wow, that oem-install thing is a fantastic idea. On 21/10/2007, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 20/10/2007, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ian Pascoe wrote: > > > Hey, I like this more and more! > > > > > > Just so that I've got it straight in my mind > > > > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew Larsen
Hey Mark, Nice idea, I think it works well. However I think you need to highlight the free aspect of Ubuntu more. Also try and keep to one type of user, I got a bit confused reading 'user', 'home user', 'web user'. maybe just repace user with 'people', sounds less formal. Apart from that, love i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Mark Harrison
Dougie Richardson wrote: > 1. How would the cost of travel be covered? I'm all for volunteering > but not if it starts to cost my significantly in expenses. > Well, I have to say, I'd considered that this wasn't really us doing anything new beyond what we're already doing... More us realising

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Mark, > > On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 19:53 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: >> London, 21st October 2007 >> >> The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective >> from 1st November, it will be offering free technical support to >> users of selected Tescos PC, at centres

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Kris, On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:49 +0100, Kris Marsh wrote: > 1) Ensure ASDA is in the press release too > [http://www.asda-electricals.co.uk/shop/product/esys/linux.html] Good plan. > 2) Suggest we also point users to the forum and IRC, if they're not > interested in face-to-face. Well, we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Marsh
On 10/21/07, Kris Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/21/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMPORTANT NOTE I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As > > far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually > > been said... Normal practice with PR

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi Alan, On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:35 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > There is nothing that says "we" have to do site visits at all. "Free" > support could be via the traditional methods such as forums, irc and > mailing list. > > If you built a relationship with a customer and said you would like to >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Marsh
On 10/21/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMPORTANT NOTE I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As > far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually > been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make > them up, then ask the p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-21 Thread Josh Blacker
On 10/21/07, Josh Blacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/20/07, David Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's interesting. On my X31 (great laptop) the Fn-F5 combo does > > > > > > nothing, I have read that it should operate the bluetooth adapter - I > > > have to switch it manually if i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Dougie, On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:24 +0100, Dougie Richardson wrote: > I agree with this, although I'm not aware of the distribution of members > of the group, if this was to prove popular then there are two problems: > > 1. How would the cost of travel be covered? I'm all for volunteering > b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Chris, On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 20:02 +0100, Chris Oattes wrote: > I would be concerned that people may think of this as some sort of > "contract", and that we would have to support them no matter what. We > would have to have some people who can guarantee that they can travel to > visit people

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Mac
Mark Harrison wrote: > The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st > November, it will be offering free technical support to users of > selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country. Mark >>> Great press release - and exactly the right tone. One small poin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mark, On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 19:53 +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: > London, 21st October 2007 > > The UK Ubuntu community is pleased to announce that, effective from 1st > November, it will be offering free technical support to users of > selected Tescos PC, at centres up and down the country. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Dougie Richardson
Hi all, > I would be concerned that people may think of this as some sort of > "contract", and that we would have to support them no matter what. We > would have to have some people who can guarantee that they can travel to > visit people to support them etc. - The time constraints may be too m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Oattes
Mark Harrison said the following on 21/10/07 19:53: > IMPORTANT NOTE I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As > far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually > been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make > them up, then ask the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] An Alternative to Windows?

2007-10-21 Thread norman
> I thought the article was excellent. I agree, I couldn't do it. I am not creative but I can, if required, do a reasonable editing job. > I did notice one small spelling > mistake, I wouldn't mention it but for the reason for writing the > article. "Ancestory" should read "ancestry". Sorry

[ubuntu-uk] Press Release Idea: "Free support on selected Tescos PCs from Ubuntu UK"

2007-10-21 Thread Mark Harrison
IMPORTANT NOTE I am acting like a typical "PR Flack" in this. As far as I'm aware, NONE of the quotes I've made up for Alan have actually been said... Normal practice with PR stuff is for the PR flack to make them up, then ask the person being quoted if that's OK :-) ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE

Re: [ubuntu-uk] An Alternative to Windows?

2007-10-21 Thread Clare Shepherd
Interested? Well, here are some of those other reasons. Firstly, because of Linux?s ancestory it is considerably more secure than Microsoft?s Window I thought the article was excellent. I did notice one small spelling mistake, I wouldn't mention it but for the reason for writing the articl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Alternative Article for Local Press

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Rowson
On 21/10/2007, Ian Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Following on from Chris's post last week, I decided to have a bash at > writing one myself. Nothing wrong with Chris's, but I wanted to put a > slightly different spin on it. No problem at all mate. It's my intention to encourage people to wr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Alternative Article for Local Press

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew Larsen
Yo Ian, nice article, my notes are in the quote: > > An Alternative to Windows? > By Ian Pascoe, Ubuntu UK Loco Team Member Does anyone outside of us lot know what Loco means? Hows about something like Ubuntu UK representative or something > > Anyone reading this article will more than likely h

[ubuntu-uk] SIS 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display adapter

2007-10-21 Thread azmodie
i have a laptop using the sis 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display adapter when it boots i get all these white lines and then the screen goes dark i've tried vga=normal and set vga=xxx various ones also tried video=sisfb:mode:800x600x24,mem:65536,rate:70 in grub and video=sisfb:mode=800x600x24,mem:65536,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Alternative Article for Local Press

2007-10-21 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Keith, On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 13:44 +0100, Keith Cleaver wrote: > > > You could think about maybe pointing people in the direction of the list > of LUGs on the UKLUG site (http://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/all.php) when you > mention them, as that will allow people to find their local LUG easily. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Alternative Article for Local Press

2007-10-21 Thread Keith Cleaver
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Following on from Chris's post last week, I decided to have a bash at > writing one myself. Nothing wrong with Chris's, but I wanted to put a > slightly different spin on it. Copy follows: > > > > An Alternative to Windows? > By Ian P

[ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Alternative Article for Local Press

2007-10-21 Thread Ian Pascoe
Following on from Chris's post last week, I decided to have a bash at writing one myself. Nothing wrong with Chris's, but I wanted to put a slightly different spin on it. Copy follows: An Alternative to Windows? By Ian Pascoe, Ubuntu UK Loco Team Member

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-21 Thread Daniel Lamb
Hmmm maybe it does matter, maybe its gnome anyone else had problems? Cheers, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Holloway Sent: 21 October 2007 12:34 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems AMD

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-21 Thread Michael Holloway
AMD 3800x2 2GB... more than enough to run an email client :) For what its worth though, i am running in KDE... not that that should make a difference. On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 12:30 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: > Yeah using pop3 so no real reasons for it being slow, what specs are your > machine? > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-21 Thread Daniel Lamb
Yeah using pop3 so no real reasons for it being slow, what specs are your machine? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Holloway Sent: 21 October 2007 12:24 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolutio

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-21 Thread Michael Holloway
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 11:38 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: > Ok, then its almost freezing going into the address book which is weird. > > Anyone with any ideas? > > Daniel > Are you using evolution-exchange? I know there are problems with that... waiting ten minutes for something to happen. Unfortun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tesco Selling Ubuntu 6.06 Machines - Good value.

2007-10-21 Thread Daniel Lamb
Maybe someone should actually mention esys are making the pcs and laptops: http://www.esysglobal.com/contents/products/epc-with-linux.html#laptop http://www.esysglobal.com/contents/products/epc-with-linux.html These are selling in Tesco, Asda and PC World, or at least the brand is, don't k

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Emails posted to mailing list not threading

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Douglas
On 20/10/2007, David Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, I've just noticed whilst looking at the mailing list site and viewing > this months emails sorted by thread, that emails sent by me aren't threading > under the message I'm replying to. > > Can anybody help me with this? I'm using gmail

Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Douglas
On 20/10/2007, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ian Pascoe wrote: > > Hey, I like this more and more! > > > > Just so that I've got it straight in my mind > > > > A. Install Ubuntu on computer > > B. Set up computer with various apps and configs as required > > C. Issue appropriate

[ubuntu-uk] Tesco Selling Ubuntu 6.06 Machines - Good value.

2007-10-21 Thread Kris Douglas
http://direct.tesco.com/search/default.aspx?search=esys&confirm.x=0&confirm.y=0 It seems that Tesco has started selling Ubuntu machines, at a respectable price. Maybe something like this should be mentioned somewhere, it's as good as dell doing the same thing.. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-21 Thread Daniel Lamb
Ok, then its almost freezing going into the address book which is weird. Anyone with any ideas? Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Morley Sent: 21 October 2007 11:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolutio

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy,evolution problems

2007-10-21 Thread Dave Morley
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 01:29 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: > Hi, > > Is anyone else having problems with the speed of evolution on Gutsy? > > I have checked, it is not the most up to date version, > > I have just managed to get my parents converted to ubuntu and would love > this to work. > > Reg

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Niggling wireless issue

2007-10-21 Thread Josh Blacker
On 10/20/07, David Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's interesting. On my X31 (great laptop) the Fn-F5 combo does > > > > nothing, I have read that it should operate the bluetooth adapter - I > > have to switch it manually if it should get turned off by accident. I > > don't have the stand

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Big Updates

2007-10-21 Thread Stephen Garton
Mark Fraser wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007 07:59:17 Stephen Garton wrote: > > Same here too, think it's got something to do with still having > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed restricted main > multiverse universe > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-pro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Big Updates

2007-10-21 Thread Alec Wright
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 09:39 +0100, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Sunday 21 October 2007 07:59:17 Stephen Garton wrote: > > Morning All, > > > > Woke up this morning to have my laptop I needed to download ~133mb of > > updates. This seems a lot for 3 days after release! Any one know if > > there has been

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Big Updates

2007-10-21 Thread Mark Fraser
On Sunday 21 October 2007 07:59:17 Stephen Garton wrote: > Morning All, > > Woke up this morning to have my laptop I needed to download ~133mb of > updates. This seems a lot for 3 days after release! Any one know if > there has been a muck-up somewhere, or have I dropped unlucky and have > all the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wifi PCMCIA card - suggestions, please.

2007-10-21 Thread Sean Miller
It seems to me that the days of wireless cards not working on Linux are becoming a distant memory...after months of using a BT Voyager 1020 PCMCIA card in my laptop, with Gutsy the onboard wireless has suddenly clicked into gear and is now working fine. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://

[ubuntu-uk] Big Updates

2007-10-21 Thread Stephen Garton
Morning All, Woke up this morning to have my laptop I needed to download ~133mb of updates. This seems a lot for 3 days after release! Any one know if there has been a muck-up somewhere, or have I dropped unlucky and have all the packages that need updates ;)? -- Steve Garton www.sheepeatingtaz.c