Re: [ubuntu-uk] K/Ubuntu?

2006-12-14 Thread Tez
Michael Wood wrote: > Tez wrote: > >> Stephen Garton wrote: >> >> >>> Now, it doesn't really bother me, but I was just wondering why the >>> signature appended to the messages on the list link to the kubuntu >>> wiki instead of the ubuntu one?: >>> >>> >>> >>> ubuntu-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread Dean Sas
Gargoyle wrote: > On 14 Dec 2006, at 20:33, Pat wrote: > >> On 14/12/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 >> ... >>> I note Linus' response which I find a bit reassuring, but I do hope >>> the more 'common' end of common sense can prev

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kernel upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Daniel Pittman
Keith Bowerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On booting up Edgy a couple of hours ago I was advised that there were > 10 updates available to me, mainly upgrading the kernel. I dutifully > downloaded them and following the usual instructions rebooted the > machine, except that I couldn't, the loa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K/Ubuntu?

2006-12-14 Thread Michael Wood
Tez wrote: > Stephen Garton wrote: > >> Now, it doesn't really bother me, but I was just wondering why the >> signature appended to the messages on the list link to the kubuntu >> wiki instead of the ubuntu one?: >> >> >> >>> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kernel upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Michael Wood
Keith Bowerman wrote: > On booting up Edgy a couple of hours ago I was advised that there were > 10 updates available to me, mainly upgrading the kernel. I dutifully > downloaded them and following the usual instructions rebooted the > machine, except that I couldn't, the loader got no further tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread Pat
On 14/12/06, Gargoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 14 Dec 2006, at 20:33, Pat wrote: > On 14/12/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 > ... >> >> I note Linus' response which I find a bit reassuring, but I do hope >> the more 'common

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan, Alan Pope wrote: > No, you ssh to her, forwarding port 5900 from your desktop to hers. Then > you use rdesktop to view localhost:5900 and you get her desktop because > ssh forwards those packets down the tunnel to her machine. Works well, I > do this when I want to administer my brothers co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 22:36 +, Tony Arnold wrote: > > Alternatively ssh to her machine and setup a tunnel with -L and then get > > her to enable remote desktop and use rdesktop at your end to view her > > desktop via the ssh tunnel. Then run the update manager. > > Don't I get my own desktop i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread Gargoyle
On 14 Dec 2006, at 20:33, Pat wrote: > On 14/12/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 > ... >> >> I note Linus' response which I find a bit reassuring, but I do hope >> the more 'common' end of common sense can prevail, particularly in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan, Alan Pope wrote: > Firstly, to Tony, why do you want to upgrade a machine 300 miles away. > Assuming it's on Dapper, what is there in Edgy that your mum has a > burning need for? It's not desparate right now, but it certainly could become so in the future, so I was making a general enquiry

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 07:01 +, tim wrote: > use apt-get in this case. > Er, no, don't do that. Quoting [0] on the subject of using apt-get "Please note - this method is much less reliable. If you use this method, you MUST be prepared to fix problems manually, such as packages being unexpecte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread Pat
On 14/12/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 ... > > I note Linus' response which I find a bit reassuring, but I do hope > the more 'common' end of common sense can prevail, particularly in ubuntu! > -- > I'm in two minds about this iss

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??

2006-12-14 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:41 +, Michael Wood wrote: > Ted Wager wrote: > > tim matthews wrote: > > > >> I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update > >> from edgy to feisty (so I think). > >> > I'm pretty sure it's possible to jump a release for upgrading, ju

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kernel upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread baza
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 19:34 +, Keith Bowerman wrote: > On booting up Edgy a couple of hours ago I was advised that there were > 10 updates available to me, mainly upgrading the kernel. I dutifully > downloaded them and following the usual instructions rebooted the > machine, except that I coul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kernel upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Leon Barker
On 14/12/06, Keith Bowerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >n switching back on, my computer made different from > normal beeps, and wouldn't even load the bios, in effect leaving me > with a dead computer as I can't now boot into the bios. I experienced something similar - (I think). What I did was d

[ubuntu-uk] Kernel upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Keith Bowerman
On booting up Edgy a couple of hours ago I was advised that there were 10 updates available to me, mainly upgrading the kernel. I dutifully downloaded them and following the usual instructions rebooted the machine, except that I couldn't, the loader got no further than 'loading kernel' and then ju

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K/Ubuntu?

2006-12-14 Thread Tez
Stephen Garton wrote: > Now, it doesn't really bother me, but I was just wondering why the > signature appended to the messages on the list link to the kubuntu > wiki instead of the ubuntu one?: > > >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??

2006-12-14 Thread Michael Wood
Ted Wager wrote: > tim matthews wrote: > >> I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from >> edgy to feisty (so I think). >> I'm pretty sure it's possible to jump a release for upgrading, just make sure you use the upgrade manager. The repositories will be t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??

2006-12-14 Thread Ted Wager
tim matthews wrote: > I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update > from edgy to feisty (so I think). > > and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only > be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. > > Ted Wager wrote: > >

[ubuntu-uk] K/Ubuntu?

2006-12-14 Thread Stephen Garton
Now, it doesn't really bother me, but I was just wondering why the signature appended to the messages on the list link to the kubuntu wiki instead of the ubuntu one?: >ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Looking at the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??

2006-12-14 Thread tim matthews
I don't think you can update from dapper to Feisty, you can only update from edgy to feisty (so I think). and what's the point of using feisty? at this point, feisty should only be used by developpers who can fix things when they go wrong. Ted Wager wrote: > I have a small partition that I used

[ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Fiesty ??

2006-12-14 Thread Ted Wager
I have a small partition that I used for Ubuntu testing..It is now up to dapper.. Anyone tried upgrading Dapper to Fiesty and if so how did it go and what are the repo addresses...I am not particularly bothered if it fails as I can always install from cd but would like to give the upgrade a whirl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-12-14, chombee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Upgrade using the graphical update manager, +not+ apt-get. It is not > equivalent anymore, sadly. What about aptitude? > Also there are some packages it is worth removing before an upgrade (and > reinstalling after) such as binary drivers from n

[ubuntu-uk] Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 (??)

2006-12-14 Thread alan c
Non-GPL Linux Kernel Modules Banned Starting January 2008 http://www.osnews.com/story.php/16720/Non-GPL-Linux-Kernel-Modules-Banned-Starting-January-2008/ I am not technically into any of the details, and have never even compiled a kernel etc, or much at all, but - this sounds a bit like extremi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread chombee
Upgrade using the graphical update manager, +not+ apt-get. It is not equivalent anymore, sadly. Also there are some packages it is worth removing before an upgrade (and reinstalling after) such as binary drivers from nvidia or ati, or any third party stuff you have installed. Usually the worst th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade

2006-12-14 Thread Ashley Hooper
Tony wrote: > I wonder if there is an approach whereby I clone the root logical volume > and somehow upgrade the clone (without booting into it, that is). That > way the system should always at least reboot into the original system? Although I'm not sure if you can upgrade an installation without