Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 03:19, skrev Ian Santopietro: . If you agree with all this, then you have to agree that the normal desktop Unity should be provided. No, I don't agree. Unity, yes. Full desktop Unity? No. Honestly, I don't see the point of discussing this. With what you're suggesting, Ubun

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

I haven't said those things would be a bad idea. The only thing that I've ever, in the course of this mailing list, objected to was shipping a full desktop on the OS, which would add bloat to the installation. Apart from that, I have stated *specifically* that you should *not* be limited to TV and

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 09:48, skrev Ian Santopietro: I think the ability to use a full hardware keyboard to search is a great idea. However, we shouldn't limit Ubuntu TV to require a physical keyboard, thus it should be an extra. It would be better to focus on the *optimal* experience, which shoul

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Nov 29, 2011 1:57 AM, "Jo-Erlend Schinstad" wrote: > > Den 29. nov. 2011 09:48, skrev Ian Santopietro: > >> >> I think the ability to use a full hardware keyboard to search is a great idea. However, we shouldn't limit Ubuntu TV to require a physical keyboard, thus it should be an extra. It woul

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Please try to make it a little easier to read. I had difficulty finding your reply at all. Den 29. nov. 2011 10:03, skrev Ian Santopietro: Why? What benefits does this offer? If you want Ubuntu Desktop, why not just install Ubuntu Desktop? Ubuntu TV will be Ubuntu Desktop with a different

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

I think that your goals would best be filled by installing Ubuntu Desktop. It's already suited to your needs and wants for a Smart TV. In general though, I don't think we need to make Ubuntu TV into Ubuntu Desktop, largely because we don't need to make TVs behave like computers. We already have co

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 17:17, skrev Ian Santopietro: I think that your goals would best be filled by installing Ubuntu Desktop. It's already suited to your needs and wants for a Smart TV. How is that? Ubuntu Desktop doesn't provide a very good TV experience by default. If I want to send an email whi

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

> How is that? Ubuntu Desktop doesn't provide a very good TV experience by> > default. If I want to send an email while watching TV, why should I have to> > replace the operating system in order to do so? I don't think TVs are the best devices to send email from. I already have a computer that i

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

I give up. Creating independent Ubuntu appliances makes no sense to me. I won't buy something like that just because it has an Ubuntu sticker on it. It's either a part of my personal network, or it's not. If it's not, then I'd rather purchase one from Samsung or LG or something. Single user, o

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

What happened to Ubuntu One? I never said they'd be independent, I said they'd function differently from each other, since most users will use a TV for different things from what they use their computer for. But everything would be linked to their Ubuntu One Cloud. Nothing would necessarily be inde

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? Sent from my Palm PreOn Nov 29, 2011 18:09, Ian Santopietro wrote: What happened to Ubuntu One? I never said they'd be independent, I said they'd function differently from each other, since most users wil

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

> Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? I mean having a full desktop environment, and access to apps that haven't been optimized for TVs. On Nov 29, 2011 5:36 PM, "Ian Nicholson" wrote: > > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? > > > > >

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On 11/29/2011 08:50 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? > > I mean having a full desktop environment, and access to apps that > haven't been optimized for TVs. > > On Nov 29, 2011 5:36 PM, "Ian Nicholson" >

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software center to mark Apps as TV friendly. This would cover the majority of games, plus any apps with an interface specifically for TV. This would allow for an App to have two interfaces (this is defined in Gnome 3), without requiring s

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On 11/29/2011 10:01 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software > center to mark Apps as TV friendly. This would cover the majority of > games, plus any apps with an interface specifically for TV. This would > allow for an App to have two int

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

That's the big one, but it also takes a lot of load off of the servers, since you only need one copy of the package. On Nov 29, 2011 9:04 PM, "Ian Nicholson" wrote: > ** > On 11/29/2011 10:01 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software > ce

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

That's not 100% accurate. You still would have multiple packages (one for desktop, one for ubuntutv), otherwise you are making every user download more than they need and everything gets bloated. You could have a single code base as well, as a single source package can create multiple binary packag