Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Alex Chiang
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sure. > Yes, it will be an ARM SoC. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Device-Specific configs in debs

2014-01-14 Thread Alex Chiang
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 01/14/2014 03:11 PM, Chris Wayne wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> >> So after looking at customizing powerd, I noticed several areas where we have >> device-specific config files living inside deb packages. As our idea of >> customization has alw

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Device-Specific configs in debs

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On 14/01/14 19:46, Alex Chiang wrote: >> >> Speaking with Steve Langasek yesterday, I got strong guidance that all >> per-device configs really need to live in the customization tarball. > > Wouldn't ad

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Device-Specific configs in debs

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Chiang
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On 14-01-14 05:46 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > > > > Speaking with Steve Langasek yesterday, I got strong guidance that all > > per-device configs really need to live in the customization tarball. > > > > And

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ports] Making system image ports available?

2014-03-06 Thread Alex Chiang
Hi, I asked stgraber for some information and he writes: ### There's no need for a new tag in the json files, all "path" fields in the spec have always been defined as "Relative path or URL". ### Perhaps the clients have not yet implemented the URL case, but that is where the logic should be. Ad

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Alex Chiang
I am not against this plan, but I do have a question. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > > - the new common rootfs should have no click apps per default > - the rootfs we know today would be a special case of customization Can you expand on this? Does this mean we would d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > > Not wanting a terminal by default is what started this conversation :-) > > We could only install by default what we think that should be > mandatory, and provide the rest as part of a default custom tarball. > That way we can p

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Alex Chiang
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > On 03/20/2014 01:43 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: >> >> >> I have no issue with sharing but traceability is really lost if it's >> too many people with the same account. > > The issue here isn't people to upload things, it's people to debug i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-21 Thread Alex Chiang
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Alex Chiang wrote: >> Is this resource bottleneck (debug, fix, test) going to affect 3rd >> party apps too, or is it just the case that the core apps get special >> attention/gating becau

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] New back button placement, are we serious ?!?

2014-03-25 Thread Alex Chiang
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > Does the Design team not try out the UI changes on a Nexus4 (4.7") or do > you guys all have extremely long thumbs ? Opinions are cheap and the framing of this question presumes incompetence of the party with whom you're trying to effect

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No more custom home screen backgrounds?

2014-03-26 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 03/26/2014 10:12 AM, Jason Warner wrote: > ... >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Iain Lane > > wrote: >> >> - Is there any chance we can have this feature back please? I for one >> enjoy the abi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No more custom home screen backgrounds?

2014-03-26 Thread Alex Chiang
ign decision because it > "strengthens the ubuntu brand" or something like that. > > Am 26.03.2014 19:12 schrieb "Alex Chiang" : >> >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jamie Strandboge >> wrote: >> > On 03/26/2014 10:12 AM, Jason Warn

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-15 Thread Alex Chiang
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, David Planella wrote: > > We think using this option (inline translations in the ini files vs reading > the translations from .mo files) is the best solution in terms of > performance when reading the list of scopes, but we'd like to hear other > comments/views too

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-15 Thread Alex Chiang
t; Let me know if this provides enough context. > > Cheers, > David. > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, David Planella >> wrote: >> > >> > We think using this option (inline tran

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Carrier Customized APN Database

2014-04-28 Thread Alex Chiang
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Tony Espy wrote: > On 04/28/2014 03:30 PM, Chris Wayne wrote: >> The use case for a carrier wanting their own APN database could be >> having a special app that they want to allow zero-tariff data usage for >> (e.g. their usage app, or maybe they have a deal with s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Alex Chiang
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: > > Also a carrier may want to enable/disable certain services (think 4g > > tethering) for example, > > > This seems like it'd be better handled with a DConf key for that service. > It's als

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Alex Chiang
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 08:38 -0700, Alex Chiang wrote: > > As a real world example of the services we might want to disable: > > > > - mediascanner service > > - urldispatcher > > - mtp-server > > > Hm

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Alex Chiang
Can you explain what this change actually is, or perhaps include a link to the MP? Googling for "upstart app launch" brings me to: https://launchpad.net/upstart-app-launch But there's not really anything else to read to understand what's going to happen. Thanks. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:13 AM

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > > The current plan is therefore: > > * Rick has asked me to take ownership of deciding when to branch for >RTM; note that this decision can be taken retroactively by copying >older versions of packages, so we can say "the image from th

[Ubuntu-phone] Terrarium (live QML playground)

2014-06-18 Thread Alex Chiang
Some of you may have heard of Swift, a new programming language for a phone platform from a company in Cupertino. One of the demos they showed about Swift was its live playground, where you could type code into an editor and have a live preview of its effects on the side. I just learned about Ter

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Background services: a problem that we need to face

2014-06-25 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 14:44 -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> On 14-06-25 02:11 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote: >> > >> > I don't now, nor have I ever, owned any iOS devices. Nor have I >> > developed any apps for them. I do own an iOS device (iPhon

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK Team status update - 05.08

2014-08-05 Thread Alex Chiang
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Zoltán Balogh wrote: > Hi all, > > Exciting news from the SDK Lab! > > If you like it short just read this -> > > UI ToolKit: > 1) We have a decision to go with the Qt.Labs Settings API, the QML API will > be released on the image and in the click chroots soon Ho

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK Team status update - 05.08

2014-08-06 Thread Alex Chiang
: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Alex Chiang > wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Zoltán Balogh > >> > wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Exciting news from the SDK Lab! > >>> > >>> If you like it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SDK Team status update - 05.08

2014-08-07 Thread Alex Chiang
Hi Christian, On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Christian Dywan wrote: > > I'm a very practical person. Just try this (example attached): > > env APP_ID=uitk XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/tmp qmlscene settings.qml > > Et voilá the settings go where you expect them. The line above creates: /tmp/qt-project.org

[Ubuntu-phone] preferred test framework for C++ backends?

2014-08-08 Thread Alex Chiang
Hi, I'm seeking an opinion for which testing framework to use in a Qt-flavored C++ library. I've seen some Ubuntu phone projects use GTest, such as lp:unity-scope-click and lp:ubuntu-download-manager. Are there any that use QtTest? TBH, the two frameworks seem fairly similar in functionality, s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Addressing the lack of Trademark License for YouTube, Twitter and Facebook Core Apps

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Chiang
* Benjamin Kerensa : > We currently are using Trademark brands of Twitter, YouTube and > Facebook (and others on Ubuntu.com mobile area) all outside of the > scope of each individual services Trademark policy... Can you point out where you believe the violation is occurring? I looked around http:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Qt/QML Python bindings

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Chiang
* Robert Bruce Park : > > Well, I can't speak for the whole company in any official capacity, > but my impression as a low-level grunt is that there is a large > internal push to move away from Python, I think this statement is quite misleading and gives the false impression that there is an organ

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design][Clock] Clock key journeys

2013-03-22 Thread Alex Chiang
Hey Calum, * Calum K Pringle : > Hey everyone, > > We've just posted some key journeys for the clock app on our blog; let us > know what you think! Check it out ; > http://design.canonical.com/2013/03/app-patterns-applied-clock-key-journeys/ Good stuff. "time til next alarm" is great; it's se

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] General questions

2013-04-03 Thread Alex Chiang
* Cláudio Sampaio : > I also have one general question. > > Isn't Ubuntu Touch going to present a "capabilities" layer, > much like that of Android or Blackberry, that says what the > application can/will do? "Acess the network", "store files", > "read the SMS", "change the configuration" and so o