Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset

2015-08-14 Thread Heroldich Robin
Okay, but for which project? Could you give me a link? :) > Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 16:10:00 +0200 > From: simon.f...@canonical.com > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset > > On 14.08.2015 16:07, Heroldich Robin wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Thanks for your

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi, sadly this (AVRCP) is not supported yet. I'm waiting very hard on this one too. The upgrade to Bluez5 has begun, so there's hope this will start working soon (I estimate a couple of months, maybe a bit more). Br, Michael On 14.08.2015 13:16, Heroldich Robin wrote: > Hi all! > > I ordered a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset

2015-08-14 Thread Simon Busch
On 14.08.2015 16:13, Heroldich Robin wrote: Okay, but for which project? Could you give me a link? :) File it against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez regards, Simon -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe

[Ubuntu-phone] Place for stable phone (vivid stable-phone-overlay) translations

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hello everyone! We would like to finally announce the place where all our stable-phone translations will be managed: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/ The Launchpad team created an ubuntu-rtm/15.04 translation distro-series that will be used for managing, submitting and gener

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Override user agent string in WebApp

2015-08-14 Thread Christian Dywan
What you see there is one of the first steps of what's still a work in progress. This raises questions that haven't been answered/ specced yet like should an application pulling data from the network stop doing that if it's not focused? Should it stop once you minimized it? Once it's covered by

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Alberto Aguirre
That will also be the result of the scaling governor. I was surprised too that arale (Meizu) only has an interactive governor available. It's quite hard to measure performance consistently and effectively with such a governor (specially for comparison purposes). >I'm more concerned about how can w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Alberto Aguirre
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > usually android phones use the interactive or the userspace cpufreq > governor (the latter with a userspace daemon) with frequency scaling > directly tied to input/user events, we leave setting up this stuff to > the container under the a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Schroll
Thanks for the explanation! Just to make sure I've got it: devel isn't actually dangerous right now -- it's just not going to get any love until devel-proposed manages to stabilize. rc-proposed is available, but under the "If it breaks, you get both halves" warranty. I'm speaking from a pos

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hey Robert, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 18:08, Robert Schroll pisze: > Thanks for the explanation! > > Just to make sure I've got it: devel isn't actually dangerous right now > -- it's just not going to get any love until devel-proposed manages to > stabilize. rc-proposed is available, but under the "If

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

2015-08-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, August 13, 2015 a las 06:14:30PM +0100, Alan Pope escribió: > We often discussed the possibility of a reusable "Terminal component" > based off the existing code base. A developer such as yourself could > grab that, add your app (mutt, irssi, whatever), modify a config file > (to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] issues on nexus 7

2015-08-14 Thread Randall 
There's an open bug for this issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1465331 Cheers, Randall. On 07/18/2015 05:14 AM, Aat de Vries wrote: > I'm bumping my own question up the list. Fortunately, the wifi-issue > seems to have been fixed lately. > > But is there anyone else who has a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Schroll
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: Well... that's the *theory*, but in practice it's sadly a bit more problematic ;) As we say in physics: in theory there's no difference between theory and practice; in practice, there is. That being said, we discussed all th

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 14.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
e/mako/217:20150814:20150529.1/13530/ * Some useful documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/FAQ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/RTMLandingApproaches https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/Smoketes

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

2015-08-14 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On 14 August 2015 at 18:24, Matthias Apitz wrote: > The first part is done (and all worked as you described): > > $ ./make_fat_package.sh > ... > [ armhf ] Cleaning up build dir > [ ubuntu-sdk-15.04 ] Modifying manifest.json > [ ubuntu-sdk-15.04 ] Build *multi.click pac

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Override user agent string in WebApp

2015-08-14 Thread Nathan Haines
On 08/13/2015 11:06 PM, Mitchell Reese wrote: So what's the plan then for convergence? Well, most likely the application lifecycle won't be constrained while desktop mode is active. There's no existential crisis here. Staged mode would be ludicrous on the desktop. Windowed mode would be l

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 08:34 +0200 schrieb Matthias Apitz: > FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/proc/4745/exe' > > argh :-( my jail has no /proc device mouonted > > Have to wait until kick-off my wife from her laptop :-) > and "mount -t proc proc /proc" do

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 21:53 -0400 schrieb Robert Schroll: > > Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo. Should we be on > rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay on the (stale) devel channel? > it isn't stale, everything landing in 15.04 lands there in parallel and i'm

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Somlói
Hi! Is the rc-proposed enough stable for daily use? 2015-08-14 10:23 GMT+02:00 Oliver Grawert : > hi, > Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 21:53 -0400 schrieb Robert Schroll: > > > > > Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo. Should we be on > > rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hello, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 03:53, Robert Schroll pisze: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak > wrote: >> Please DO NOT use the devel/devel-proposed channels for your phones if >> not needed. > > Perhaps then we should stop recommending devel for those wishing to > "track t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hey Oliver, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 10:23, Oliver Grawert pisze: > hi, > Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 21:53 -0400 schrieb Robert Schroll: > >> >> Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo. Should we be on >> rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay on the (stale) devel channel? >> > it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hey Richard, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 10:25, Richard Somlói pisze: > Hi! > > Is the rc-proposed enough stable for daily use? The answer is: no. Any of the *-proposed channels are not recommended for daily use. Even though each package landing in an rc-proposed image does get proper QA, with every ima

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
Hi, Le 14/08/2015 10:23, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > [...] the fact that 15.10 will never show up on any > actual devices by definition the attention for it is very low. AFAIK it was never stated this clearly before. What is the plan for stable phone users? Official Vivid support is supposed to e

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 10:27 +0200 schrieb Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak: > > I think Robert meant the 'devel' channel, not 'devel-proposed'. And > devel currently is stale as we didn't promote anything there for quite a > while. oops, yes, sorry, seems i had not had enough coffee :) ciao

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Override user agent string in WebApp

2015-08-14 Thread nick luigi eusebio
I think currently when you are in windowed mode, apps are not suspended and all runs simultaneously except I think the browser.This is what I noticed on my Nexus 7 so everything seems a lot more sluggish when in windowed mode. :)Now my question too, is how application confinement and multiple ap

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 10:42 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Delvaux: > Hi, > > Le 14/08/2015 10:23, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > > [...] the fact that 15.10 will never show up on any > > actual devices by definition the attention for it is very low. > > AFAIK it was never stated this clearly before

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Daniel van Vugt
It's not just frequency either. On arale (Meizu) for example, smoothness correlates directly with whether multiple CPU cores are online or not: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/online Usually the kernel only keeps one core online, which makes Unity8 stutter. But if you touch it enough then the se

[Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Hi all, In testing performance optimisations on various phones, I keep running into an annoying hurdle. Although you can optimise your Mir server/clients in such a way that they're smoother more often, there's an additional variable outside of Mir and Unity that gets in the way. That seems t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 16:48 +0800 schrieb Daniel van Vugt: > Hi all, > > In testing performance optimisations on various phones, I keep running > into an annoying hurdle. > > Although you can optimise your Mir server/clients in such a way that > they're smoother more often, there's an

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 16:48 +0800 schrieb Daniel van Vugt: > Hi all, > > In testing performance optimisations on various phones, I keep running > into an annoying hurdle. > > Although you can optimise your Mir server/clients in such a way that > they're smoother more often, there's a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
Le 14/08/2015 10:56, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > hi, > Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 10:42 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Delvaux: >> Hi, >> >> Le 14/08/2015 10:23, Oliver Grawert a écrit : >>> [...] the fact that 15.10 will never show up on any >>> actual devices by definition the attention for it is very low

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

2015-08-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, August 14, 2015 a las 10:15:58AM +0200, Oliver Grawert escribió: > hi > Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 08:34 +0200 schrieb Matthias Apitz: > > > FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/proc/4745/exe' > > > > argh :-( my jail has no /proc device mouonted > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phone performance

2015-08-14 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Yes, I have encountered these Android-specific cpufreq governors in my investigation. I assume they're already ideally configured too, and any tweaking would put battery life at risk. Although in the case of arale I mentioned, it's not the frequency that's wrong, but the number of cores turned

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Override user agent string in WebApp

2015-08-14 Thread Peter Bittner
Thank you, David, for the elaborate explanation. Just for curiosity's sake, can you explain why desktop notification work with Web browsers and the Ubuntu desktop, without any server-side control from our side? (e.g web.skype.com will show an OSD for incoming messages) Is this all just because th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Override user agent string in WebApp

2015-08-14 Thread David Barth
Push notifications for webapps is not supported yet. Only Gmail and Twitter currently have some ad-hoc support via the account-polld service. Generic push notifications for webapps is in development, with 2 branches currently lined up for review and integration in Oxide: - https://code.launchpad.

[Ubuntu-phone] hello & suggestion

2015-08-14 Thread rv pellarin
hi folks, first of all hello to everybody, new owner of a mx4 and i gonna try to use it as my main phone for a week, and see what jamm on rc-proposed version. i d like to know where i can make suggestions, is this mailing list a good place for that? if it is, id like to say the first thing that ca

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] hello & suggestion

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi, and welcome to the list. I agree that the store needs some improvements. For the time being you can find what you're searching for on this website: https://uappexplorer.com/apps?q=author:Ubuntu%20Core%20App%20Developers&sort=relevance Br, Michael On 14.08.2015 11:45, rv pellarin wrote: > hi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Somlói
Thanks for your answer Łukasz. I have another question. You wrote in one of your previous landing mail there will be a new place for the stable translation. When will you announce this new place? 2015-08-14 11:17 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Delvaux : > Le 14/08/2015 10:56, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > > hi,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Override user agent string in WebApp

2015-08-14 Thread David Barth
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Peter Bittner wrote: > Thank you, David, for the elaborate explanation. > > Just for curiosity's sake, can you explain why desktop notification work > with Web browsers and the Ubuntu desktop, without any server-side control > from our side? (e.g web.skype.com wi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] hello & suggestion

2015-08-14 Thread rv pellarin
thxx a lot michael for your reply. i ve been a "hard core " android user since it s begining, and i have to admit, switching to ubuntu touch is a bit complicated, thtas what happend when you are used to a system. mostly the major issue i am facing, is to use the google services, like drive and gta

[Ubuntu-phone] ubuntu touch - kali

2015-08-14 Thread rv pellarin
hi folks, now i am discovering more and more about my mx4 works, and what interst me the most in this adventure, is the ubuntu side, and regarding this i have few question where you guys might have answers :) i ve set the fs in rw and tried apt-get, wich is nice, but i ve noticed that the kernel d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] hello & suggestion

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi, fwiw, this is the list of my favorite/ferquently used ones: https://uappexplorer.com/list/556b66f5d625e524b590e6a9 But then I never really liked/used android so I'm not locked into the google ecosystem. Br, Michael On 14.08.2015 13:08, rv pellarin wrote: > thxx a lot michael for your reply

[Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset

2015-08-14 Thread Heroldich Robin
Hi all! I ordered a Bluetooth headset for running, I can pair it with my BQ Aquaris E4.5 phone (I was scared at first, because it showed it is a keyboard, but turned off and on and it showed it is a headphone) and I can listen music with it, but the volume and next/previous track buttons don't

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] hello & suggestion

2015-08-14 Thread rv pellarin
thank you michael :) ᐧ On 14 August 2015 at 13:15, Michael Zanetti wrote: > Hi, > > fwiw, this is the list of my favorite/ferquently used ones: > > https://uappexplorer.com/list/556b66f5d625e524b590e6a9 > > But then I never really liked/used android so I'm not locked into the > google ecosystem.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] compiling and running the Telegram client telegram-cli on BQ (r24)

2015-08-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, August 13, 2015 a las 06:14:30PM +0100, Alan Pope escribió: > On 13 August 2015 at 18:05, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Wednesday, August 12, 2015 a las 12:41:12PM -0400, Robert Schroll > > escribió: > >> I have no idea if support for terminal apps is on a roadmap. Perhaps >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset

2015-08-14 Thread Heroldich Robin
Hi! Thanks for your reply. Oh okay, so this is "normal" now. With bluez5 will this supported by out of box or need to implement some other stuffs too? Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:42:37 +0200 From: michael.zane...@canonical.com To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Blueto

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Bluetooth Headset

2015-08-14 Thread Simon Busch
On 14.08.2015 16:07, Heroldich Robin wrote: Hi! Thanks for your reply. Oh okay, so this is "normal" now. With bluez5 will this supported by out of box or need to implement some other stuffs too? It then still needs to be hooked-up into our media-hub service to perform pause/play/next/previou