[Ubuntu-phone] App related discussion

2015-07-29 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello everybody, it looks like this was never announced, but for a while now we point app developers to ubuntu-app-devel@lists.u.c for discussion about app development. ubuntu-ph...@lists.lp.net has grown quite a bit and has quite a lot of traffic for 3rd party app developers who just want to ask

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Alberto Mardegan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > This stage is not sufficient since there is no exec() performed > here. This removes the possibility of per-process address space > layout randomization (ASLR). All processes on the system that were > spawne

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Alberto Mardegan
On 07/28/2015 05:14 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > To address this issue we are thinking about moving the auth agent out > from system settings to be a standalone service. We are going to start > working on that but wanted to check first if anyone feeling strongly > against it. The service might lea

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Nathan Haines
On 07/29/2015 02:04 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote: BTW, anyone wants to become a hero and solve this? :-) Ooh! The easiest way to solve this is to disable the preference and force Bluetooth to always be on! ;) -- Nathan Haines Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpa

[Ubuntu-phone] MX4 preloader

2015-07-29 Thread Ionut Negru
Hi, My MX4 Ubuntu edition device died while plugged on USB and I am trying to resurrect it. Till the event I used the phone without any dev related activities on it ... it broke before having time to really get into it. It is so dead that plugging it to USB will not raise any log events at all. O

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 (r25) && videos

2015-07-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, July 28, 2015 a las 04:40:43PM -0400, Jim Hodapp escribió: > Is there any way I could get these videos from you to try locally? Seems > like there's something unique with them that might be raising a valid bug > in media playback. > > Jim Hi Jim, Thanks for your kind offer to lo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 preloader

2015-07-29 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 29.07.2015, 10:09 + schrieb Ionut Negru: > My MX4 Ubuntu edition device died while plugged on USB but you charged it on a wall charger in between, right ? a USB port on a PC is definitely not enough (supplying 500mA max while the device is attached will pretty much just

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 (r25) && videos

2015-07-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, July 29, 2015 a las 12:19:01PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > The problem is, that the videos (in contrast to pictures) only show up > in Galerie-->Fotos as a grey field with the triangle indicator showing, > that it is a video. There is no still picture, or not even the filen

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] App related discussion

2015-07-29 Thread Niklas Wenzel
Thanks a lot for that! I've been getting way too many emails from this list about people's specific app development questions. Am Mittwoch, 29. Juli 2015 schrieb Daniel Holbach : > Hello everybody, > > it looks like this was never announced, but for a while now we point app > developers to ubuntu-

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Tony Espy
On 07/28/2015 01:12 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: On 28.07.2015 18:06, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:57, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le 28/07/2015 17:37, Simon Busch a écrit : So the service would show the UI or is this then offloaded to the bluetooth indicator? regards, Simon Good questi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Simon Busch
On 29.07.2015 15:38, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 01:12 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: On 28.07.2015 18:06, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:57, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le 28/07/2015 17:37, Simon Busch a écrit : So the service would show the UI or is this then offloaded to the bluetooth i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Tony Espy
On 07/29/2015 09:57 AM, Simon Busch wrote: On 29.07.2015 15:38, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 01:12 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: On 28.07.2015 18:06, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:57, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le 28/07/2015 17:37, Simon Busch a écrit : So the service would show the UI

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Michael Zanetti
On 29.07.2015 15:38, Tony Espy wrote: > On 07/28/2015 01:12 PM, Michael Zanetti wrote: >> >> >> On 28.07.2015 18:06, Simon Busch wrote: >>> On 28.07.2015 17:57, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le 28/07/2015 17:37, Simon Busch a écrit : > > So the service would show the UI or is this then off

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:25 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > > This stage is not sufficient since there is no exec() performed > > here. This removes the possibility of per-process address space > > layout randomization (ASLR). All processes on the syst

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2015-07-28 at 18:45 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > > The preloader can also create components instead of just parsing them. > Which adds another > performance boost compared to the QML cache. So it seems like the component creation time is the biggest win here, but it seems to vary o

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 2015-07-29 10:26 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:25 +0300, Alberto Mardegan wrote: >> On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: >> > This stage is not sufficient since there is no exec() performed >> > here. This removes the possibility of per-process address space >> > layout r

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Christian Dywan
I see a slight issue with that approach. Say you're using a ton of Button's, and find that it's a bottleneck, as it was the case for the OSK at one point, and maybe implement a custom ButtonGrid component. That's fine for this particular case if you accept the additional maintenance overhead a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Tony Espy
On 07/28/2015 11:28 AM, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:20, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 10:14 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Hey there, Currently the only bluetooth agent available in ubuntu touch is implemented in system settings. Which means the settings application need to be open for b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Tyler Hicks
On 2015-07-29 11:25:27, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > > This stage is not sufficient since there is no exec() performed > > here. This removes the possibility of per-process address space > > layout randomization (ASLR). All processes on the system that were

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 29.07.15

2015-07-29 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
og * Smoke-testing results: devel : http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/wily/touch/ rc : http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch_stable/ #272 devel-proposed/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/wily/touch/mako/272:20150729:20150708/13399/ #201 rc-proposed/mako - http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touc

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Application startup

2015-07-29 Thread Roman Zonov
Because we should precompile apps to start it quickly on devices. At the moment it is impossible. 29.07.2015, 19:22, "cédric bellegarde" : > With conversation about mapplauncher, I've got a question. Why application > are slow to start on Ubuntu Phone? Even clock application is slower than > Fire

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 07/29/2015 11:09 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > On 2015-07-29 11:25:27, Alberto Mardegan wrote: >> On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: >>> The exec() will need to occur after special process initialization >>> such as setting rlimits, configuring cgroups, etc., but before >>> attempting to pre

[Ubuntu-phone] Application startup

2015-07-29 Thread cédric bellegarde
With conversation about mapplauncher, I've got a question. Why application are slow to start on Ubuntu Phone? Even clock application is slower than Firefox on android. Is this a Qt issue? By the way, this really need to be fixed, this is the first thing you notice when using an Ubuntu Phone.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Simon Busch
On 29.07.2015 17:52, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 11:28 AM, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:20, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 10:14 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Hey there, Currently the only bluetooth agent available in ubuntu touch is implemented in system settings. Which means the set

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Tony Espy
On 07/29/2015 12:30 PM, Simon Busch wrote: On 29.07.2015 17:52, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 11:28 AM, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:20, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 10:14 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Hey there, Currently the only bluetooth agent available in ubuntu touch is impleme

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2015-07-29 at 11:06 -0400, Christian Dywan wrote: > How about instead, if you really find that MainView vs Rectangle is 5s > slower, you file a bug, and we can investigate before you start > re-implementing everything only to find that it will be slow again > once it's complete? Sure, cert

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RFC- Having a bluetooth service to handle pairing

2015-07-29 Thread Simon Busch
On 29.07.2015 18:32, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/29/2015 12:30 PM, Simon Busch wrote: On 29.07.2015 17:52, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 11:28 AM, Simon Busch wrote: On 28.07.2015 17:20, Tony Espy wrote: On 07/28/2015 10:14 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Hey there, Currently the only bluetooth age

[Ubuntu-phone] Improvement: Double click the MX4 & E5's screen to wake it up

2015-07-29 Thread costales
Hi! I would like to see this improvement implemented. Could it be possible? :) Why? Because I think that a physical button is weak for a long use (years). I created this for track it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1478617 Thanks a lot and best regards! Costales.

[Ubuntu-phone] MX4 lower sound 'tic tic tic...'

2015-07-29 Thread costales
Hi :) I'd like to tell you that the MX4 is doing a weird lower sound (tic tic tic...) after receive a notification (with sound) and it's suspended. That tic tic is removed after wake up the phone. I created this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/1477838 Than

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] mapplauncher

2015-07-29 Thread Tyler Hicks
On 2015-07-29 11:28:57, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 07/29/2015 11:09 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > > On 2015-07-29 11:25:27, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > >> On 07/29/2015 07:07 AM, Tyler Hicks wrote: > > >>> The exec() will need to occur after special process initialization > >>> such as setting rlimits,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 lower sound 'tic tic tic...'

2015-07-29 Thread DawnDIY
Hi, I also found the similar problem on MX4. I wrote a music App with QtMultimedia.MediaPlayer. When the screen is locked and the playing song is finished and waiting for a stopped signal, MX4 will do a weird lower sound like Costales said. 2015-07-30 1:05 GMT+08:00 costales : > Hi :) > I'd like

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 preloader

2015-07-29 Thread Nolaan
You can search the mailing list for the thread : [Ubuntu-phone] Flash MX4 Ubuntu Edition. Did it work to flash flyme? Here's a method Sebastian Hiller posted : Hello there, i was semi-successful. I did manage to get Flyme working however there are major drawbacks which i haven't found a fix f

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Call for testing] Wi-Fi Hotspots (Internet tethering)

2015-07-29 Thread lgd
Am 27.07.2015 um 10:53 schrieb M Moldaviax: > Will following the steps suggested prevent future OTA updates? > cheers I think not really? But when I make the system writable I only use apt-get to update. I think a mix of both is not good beside some special cases with little system changes. Maybe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Application startup

2015-07-29 Thread Sam Segers
Op 29-jul.-2015 6:30 PM schreef "Roman Zonov" : > > Because we should precompile apps to start it quickly on devices. At the moment it is impossible. I thought the bytecode compiled from the QML files was stored in $HOME/.cache/QML/? > > 29.07.2015, 19:22, "cédric bellegarde" : > > With conversat

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 preloader

2015-07-29 Thread Ionut Negru
Hi, The phone was affected by the "wrong battery stats" bug. In that specific case I have charged it with the wall charger and it said 100% then 10-15 minutes after it dropped dramatically to about 30% and due to this I plugged it on my PC till the second day when I found it unresponsive. I though

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] MX4 preloader

2015-07-29 Thread Ionut Negru
Dear Sebastian, Thank you very much for the comprehensive response! My problem is that I can't make any OS (Ubuntu or Windows) to even detect that I have plugged the phone on to USB. I have found this video(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3TmXtOA0IA) that shows how to force a meta boot with a h

[Ubuntu-phone] Mouse support

2015-07-29 Thread wayne Ward
I thought id try a couple of usb mouse today in the bottom of the b through a break out cable and noticed it switch into window mode and mouse interaction but no mouse pointer, I tried a reboot but still no pointer. Is there a way to activate the pointer as I have keyboard working fine... Also

[Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCEMENT: CI Train Spreadsheet Replacement now LIVE!

2015-07-29 Thread Robert Park
Ok! The rollout looks like a success! It is now time to NEVER USE THE GOOGLE SPREADSHEET EVER AGAIN!!! :-D Here are a few key changes that CI Train users need to know: 1. Submit new landing requests at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/ The form fields are modelled after the spreadsheet colum

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCEMENT: CI Train Spreadsheet Replacement now LIVE!

2015-07-29 Thread Oliver Ries
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Robert Park wrote: > Ok! The rollout looks like a success! It is now time to NEVER USE THE > GOOGLE SPREADSHEET EVER AGAIN!!! :-D > excellent! thanks everyone involved for doing this, looking forward to a more scalable & stable frontend to that critical service

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] File Transfer

2015-07-29 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Well have tried but still nothing Den 2015-07-27 19:41, Alberto Mardegan skrev: On 07/27/2015 07:29 PM, Fredrik Andersson wrote: Anyone else experiencing nothing happens when connecting to computer? I wanna be able to transfer files between computer and phone trough USB, as it is now i have to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCEMENT: CI Train Spreadsheet Replacement now LIVE!

2015-07-29 Thread Brendan Donegan
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Robert Park wrote: > Ok! The rollout looks like a success! It is now time to NEVER USE THE > GOOGLE SPREADSHEET EVER AGAIN!!! :-D > The sweetest words ever uttered :) > > Here are a few key changes that CI Train users need to know: > > 1. Submit new landing req