Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 03.06.14

2014-06-04 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 03.06.2014, 22:15 -0500 schrieb Paul Larson: > > So I guess one question is whether or not ofono-phonesim-autostart > really needs dbus-x11 installed. For now, we can work around this > misbehaving package by making sure we always try to remove it, but it > would be better if

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] split() method failure with Qt5.3

2014-06-04 Thread Olivier Tilloy
There hasn’t been any visible progress on https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-39289 in the past 5 days, except that it has been confirmed. So until it’s properly fixed upstream, I resorted to workarounds in webbrowser-app. I used String.match() instead of String.split() as suggested by

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] split() method failure with Qt5.3

2014-06-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Olivier Tilloy wrote: > So until it’s properly fixed upstream, I resorted to workarounds in > webbrowser-app. I used String.match() instead of String.split() as suggested > by Zoltán, and I wrote a custom implementation of String.replace(). Great work(arounds)! F

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-06-04 Thread Benjamin Zeller
Am 22.05.2014 18:13, schrieb Ted Gould: > Hello Folks, > > Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu App Launch! > > We've discussed it before and I've got a MR ready for UAL to make the > naming change so that we're ready to move away from Upstart as our > Init system. I'd like to work with fol

[Ubuntu-phone] Qt 5.3 landing update June 4

2014-06-04 Thread Pat McGowan
A small team is meeting every two days to review status of issues related to updating the touch image to Qt 5.3 and getting it into the Utopic archive. The open bug list is at [1] Media playback bugs are the main blockers (Pat) UITK Unit tests to be fixed (Leo) Silo 5 has the new packages [2] (Tim

[Ubuntu-phone] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Nekhelesh Ramananthan
Hey everyone, During the sprint at Malta, we were given new designs for the clock app. It introduces a new mode called the "*Night Mode*" where the user can use the phone as a clock stand. In the Night Mode, the clock app will show a basic clock with all other UI elements hidden and also use a dar

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Thomas Voß
Hey Nekhelesh, thanks for bringing up the topic here. Some questions that came to my mind when reading your mail: (1.) Would you expect the screen to stay bright when in night-mode? If not, I wonder if a darkened background makes sense at all, as the displays would autodim. (2.) Using the ph

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Victor Thompson
Hi Nik, Instead of having the application use powerd. I think a better solution that would fit any use case of an app would be to have an option in the system settings to leave the screen on when power is connected. This is how my Android device, for instance, accomplishes this. Also, the QtPowerd

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
As a further twist on Victor's proposal: Let's have a system setting option where the user can choose *ONE* app to be run when the phone is on the cradle, or charging. It will default to the clock, but it can be set to say, a slideshow gallery. Or to None, if the user wishes the phone screen to be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Nekhelesh Ramananthan
Hi Thomas, In the night mode, I would not expect the screen to stay bright. I think the design team's intention was to clearly differentiate between the different clock modes. Besides in the Night Mode, the clock hands will still use the proper colors, it will be just the background of the app tha

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Nekhelesh Ramananthan
I like the idea of providing a central control in the system settings app, however it really depends on if the design team like it or not. Also I feel that it shouldn't be limiting to having the screen on only when the phone is being charged. While it is the general case that people generally sleep

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Allowing Apps to control the screen display

2014-06-04 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 04.06.2014, 15:40 +0200 schrieb Thomas Voß: > One alternative approach could be to allow the app to request an > app-specific idle timeout within reasonable limits. > That would also help in solving Oliver's ebook-reader use-case. oh ! i like that idea a lot ... ciao

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 04.05.14

2014-06-04 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hello everyone, Still no promotions happening today. Sadly we will most likely enter another TRAINCON-0 mode soon due to the lack of promotions. Besides some other infrastructure issues that we have been seeing, we now also noticed a serious regression in the images. Alan reported some memory leak

[Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues

2014-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, I'm writing to the list to raise awareness of a general problem with recent images. I've noticed on a few occasions that my phone has been running hot and often the UI is unresponsive around the same time. Usually this happens after the phone has been on for some hours - often more than 6 hour

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues

2014-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
Dammit! fat fingered this before I'd finished typing. I'll re-send with all detail. Please disregard this mail :) On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Alan Pope wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing to the list to raise awareness of a general problem with > recent images. I've noticed on a few occasions that m

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-06-04 Thread Robert Park
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > will all images receive a update with the new name? > Because the SDK uploads a script to the phone that uses the Python API as we > discussed > before. > I just need to be aware of that, so I can change my python script to > fallback to the

[Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, I'm writing to the list to raise awareness and ask for help with a general problem with recent images. I've noticed on a few occasions that my phone has been running hot and often the UI is unresponsive around the same time. Usually this happens after the phone has been on for some hours - oft

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Ian King
On 04/06/14 18:37, Alan Pope wrote: > Hi, > > I'm writing to the list to raise awareness and ask for help with a > general problem with recent images. I've noticed on a few occasions > that my phone has been running hot and often the UI is unresponsive > around the same time. Usually this happens

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-04 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Colin, On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 06:44:08PM +0100, Colin Ian King wrote: > I suggest trying out smemstat which is my in my PPA: ppa:colin-king/white > see: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/smemstat/ > one can run this with a suitable delay and capture any memory changes > over a specified numbe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Ian King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/06/14 19:07, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Colin, > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 06:44:08PM +0100, Colin Ian King wrote: > >> I suggest trying out smemstat which is my in my PPA: ppa:colin-king/white > >> see: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/smems

[Ubuntu-phone] Renaming the Ubuntu system.img to avoid confusion?

2014-06-04 Thread Jani Monoses
Due to it being called system.img when it was actually flashed to the Android system partition, the Ubuntu root filesystem image residing under /data/system.img can be easily confused with the Android system.img that is under /var/lib/lxc/android/system.img _inside_ the Ubuntu system.img. How abou

[Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
The Ubuntu phone images are due to hit the release-to-manufacturing (RTM) point later this cycle. With the pace of the phone work, it doesn't look practical to deal with this by SRUing all the required changes into trusty - we're talking about substantial feature development which probably wouldn'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
I got the ubuntu-phone list's address wrong in my original post. I've bounced the original message to the correct address, but please make sure to replace ubuntu-ph...@lists.ubuntu.com with ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net when following up. Sorry about that. -- Colin Watson

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 04, 2014 21:20:50 Colin Watson wrote: > The Ubuntu phone images are due to hit the release-to-manufacturing > (RTM) point later this cycle. With the pace of the phone work, it > doesn't look practical to deal with this by SRUing all the required > changes into trusty - we're tal

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-06-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 11:47 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: > will all images receive a update with the new name? > Because the SDK uploads a script to the phone that uses the Python API > as we discussed > before. > I just need to be aware of that, so I can change my python script to > fallback

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Identifying memory issues, #2

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Ian King
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I was having a senior moment, smemstat is already in Utopic [1], I was thinking about another tool I had recently put into the new queue. Apologies for the confusion. [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cs/utopic/smemstat On 04/06/14 19:07, Steve Langa

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 4 June 2014 21:20, Colin Watson wrote: > > Any other questions? > Will PPAs be enabled on the derivative distribution, such that if I wish/need I can build packages in the PPA against the RTM suite. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ub

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-06-04 Thread Florian Will
Hey, 2014-05-22 18:13 GMT+02:00 Ted Gould : > If you have a dependency that you know of that I'm unlikely to find, please mention it. You will probably find this sooner or later in the security tests: http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/65:20140604.1:20140530/8401/security/1210870/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming the Ubuntu system.img to avoid confusion?

2014-06-04 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 4 June 2014 20:26, Jani Monoses wrote: > Due to it being called system.img when it was actually flashed to the > Android system partition, the Ubuntu root filesystem image residing under > /data/system.img can be easily confused with the Android system.img that is > under /var/lib/lxc/android/s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:54:03PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > How will uploads to this new derived distribution get back into > Ubuntu? I think I said something about this in my original mail, but I want to set a rule that nothing gets into the derived distribution without being in Ubuntu fir

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:10:25AM +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 4 June 2014 21:20, Colin Watson wrote: > > Any other questions? > > Will PPAs be enabled on the derivative distribution, such that if I > wish/need I can build packages in the PPA against the RTM suite. Yes, there's no par

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > > The current plan is therefore: > > * Rick has asked me to take ownership of deciding when to branch for >RTM; note that this decision can be taken retroactively by copying >older versions of packages, so we can say "the image from th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 06:27:36PM -0700, Alex Chiang wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > > Can we use this strategy for other Ubuntu flavours or derivatives? > > > > In theory, maybe. It's very much easier to use this strategy for > > phone images, though, because

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 05, 2014 01:56:26 Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:54:03PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > How will uploads to this new derived distribution get back into > > Ubuntu? > > I think I said something about this in my original mail, but I want to > set a rule that no

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Adam Conrad
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:00:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Will phone RTM dates be better aligned with the Ubuntu development schedule > in > the future? I believe this is meant to be a one-off, as the base phone product is still heavily in development. In the future, a new device sh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Archive management plans for phone RTM

2014-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 04, 2014 22:07:24 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:00:23AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Will phone RTM dates be better aligned with the Ubuntu development > > schedule in the future? > > I believe this is meant to be a one-off, as the base phone product is >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 04.05.14

2014-06-04 Thread Victor Thompson
> ** Terminal app issues with responsiveness and usability > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1322529 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1322527 > -> Can anyone confirm if those are fixed? I can confirm that on image #66 this has been fixed by a change to rev

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming the Ubuntu system.img to avoid confusion?

2014-06-04 Thread Jani Monoses
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > The other ongoing plan is to get rid of loop-mounting image files, and > instead have them on separate partitions. > Such that "ubuntu.img" is actually just a normal, e.g. GPT partition > with a label UBUNTU, and /var/lib/lxc/android/