Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Oliver Grawert [2014-05-02 22:46 +0200]: > how about making the usage of /etc/default/ mandatory for all our own > services so we can easily disable them Please please not. Parsing these has been a huge pain, source of bugs, and unnecessary shell scriptery for a long time, in both the upstart and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 03.05.2014, 10:00 +0200 schrieb Martin Pitt: > Oliver Grawert [2014-05-02 22:46 +0200]: > > how about making the usage of /etc/default/ mandatory for all our own > > services so we can easily disable them > > Please please not. Parsing these has been a huge pain, source of bugs

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 17:57 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > how about making the usage of /etc/default/ mandatory for all our own > > services so we can easily disable them ... i assume this interface will > > also be still usable after the systemd transition somehow since it is > > wid

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 18:42 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > 2. Although this thread originally mentions custom upstart jobs in > > the context of carrier customizations, it should be noted that there > > 22 existing system override jobs defined in our current Touch > > images. These wi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Oliver Grawert [2014-05-03 11:42 +0200]: > well, we either give access to the init system itself or we add > something on top, i dont see whats wrong with using an established > system for the second option - It requires us to spawn a shell and parse a file, for something which is already buil

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Oliver Grawert [2014-05-03 11:35 +0200]: > and yet you use it in apport for enabling/disabling the service ? We actually don't any more. The file never changes any more (in the distro), it's just there for historical reasons. default files were the standard way to disable/re-enable services in th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 03.05.2014, 11:55 +0200 schrieb Martin Pitt: > Oliver Grawert [2014-05-03 11:35 +0200]: > However, I don't think you can get very far with *not* giving write > access to customizers. There's hardly anything to customize then. > Also, why would someone who wants to build a custom

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Oliver Grawert [2014-05-03 13:14 +0200]: > the customization kit is exactly for the purpose that everyone uses the > same base image, has reliably the same bugs etc and can only customize > what we allow. Ah, thanks for the heads-up. So this is more like the "branding" kind of customization, not l

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Chris Wayne
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 17:57 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > > how about making the usage of /etc/default/ mandatory for all our own > > > services so we can easily disable them ... i assume this interface will > > > also be sti

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Samstag, den 03.05.2014, 13:26 +0200 schrieb Martin Pitt: > Oliver Grawert [2014-05-03 13:14 +0200]: > > the customization kit is exactly for the purpose that everyone uses the > > same base image, has reliably the same bugs etc and can only customize > > what we allow. > > Ah, thanks for t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 08:38 -0700 schrieb Alex Chiang: > - mtp-server this one is solely handled by the "persist.sys.usb.config" android property, no need to reinvent the wheel by adding upstart override files here, you just need to make sure that mtp is not set in this property ... (we

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Chris Wayne
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Freitag, den 02.05.2014, 17:57 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek: > > > how about making the usage of /etc/default/ mandatory for all our own > > > services so we can easily disable them ... i assume this interface will > > > also be sti

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing Team 01.05.14

2014-05-03 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
El 02/05/2014 08:38, "Dave Morley" escribió: > > On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 03:34 -0600, Selene Scriven wrote: > > - Installing an app without a U1 account configured no longer > > works. This is a regression. Tap the app, tap install, tap > > "go to accounts" to configure a U1 account, and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing Team 01.05.14

2014-05-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 03:34 -0600, Selene Scriven wrote: > - Installing an app without a U1 account configured no longer > works. This is a regression. Tap the app, tap install, tap > "go to accounts" to configure a U1 account, and then... > nothing. Back to the app preview. H

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing Team 01.05.14

2014-05-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 11:29 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: > (although I can see a corner use case where you can pan apps left and > right, one app plays through the left channel, another app through the > right - it would keep my kids quiet in the back of the car when they > share a set of headphones!)

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] First Utopic Image is here !!!

2014-05-03 Thread Shuduo Sang
The 'availables' list do not show on my N4 with utopic r9. No log found in /var/crash. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Shuduo Sang wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Alejandro J. Cura > wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Shuduo Sang wrote: >>> No core apps and suggestions show up

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] First Utopic Image is here !!!

2014-05-03 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 10:36 +0800, Shuduo Sang wrote: > The 'availables' list do not show on my N4 with utopic r9. No log > found in /var/crash. This may be due to bug #1307981 [1] or just that the search was performed before network became available. You can check ~phablet/.cache/upstart/scope-re

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] First Utopic Image is here !!!

2014-05-03 Thread Shuduo Sang
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Sun, 2014-05-04 at 10:36 +0800, Shuduo Sang wrote: >> The 'availables' list do not show on my N4 with utopic r9. No log >> found in /var/crash. > > This may be due to bug #1307981 [1] or just that the search was > performed before network b