Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-appstore-developers] [RFC] Specifying Client Platform Properties to the Click Package Index

2014-03-06 Thread Michael Nelson
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, James Tait wrote: > I've had a couple of thoughts about how we might approach this: > > - Pass them as discrete GET parameters. This has the benefit of being >easy to test in a browser, and totally transparent. It's also less >likely to be problematic wit

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ports] Making system image ports available?

2014-03-06 Thread Alex Chiang
Hi, I asked stgraber for some information and he writes: ### There's no need for a new tag in the json files, all "path" fields in the spec have always been defined as "Relative path or URL". ### Perhaps the clients have not yet implemented the URL case, but that is where the logic should be. Ad

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-appstore-developers] [RFC] Specifying Client Platform Properties to the Click Package Index

2014-03-06 Thread James Tait
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/14 07:54, Michael Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, James Tait > wrote: >> I've had a couple of thoughts about how we might approach this: >> >> - Pass them as discrete GET parameters. This has the benefit of >> being easy to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-appstore-developers] [RFC] Specifying Client Platform Properties to the Click Package Index

2014-03-06 Thread Natalia
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Michael Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, James Tait wrote: >> I've had a couple of thoughts about how we might approach this: >> >> - Pass them as discrete GET parameters. This has the benefit of being >>easy to test in a browser, and totally t

[Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Tabbar height is too much to be usable

2014-03-06 Thread Omer Akram
Hola list, I am a full time user of the Ubuntu on my Phone and with time and by comparing to different OS out there I have realized that the height of the tabbar is a bit too much, its taking a good part of the screen space. I believe its something that needs to be discussed and the height needs

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Manuel de la Pena wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >> On Mar 03, 2014, at 02:50 AM, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: >> >> >You mention that you don't like the download manager doing the >> >installation, but to put it more strictly: the do

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > What we're doing for alarms is having the application provide a URL that > gets called if the user clicks on the notification. So the clock app sets up > an alarm and sets the URL to "alarms:///foo/whatever" and registers for that > URL in the UR

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 06, 2014, at 01:21 PM, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > * and it needs to do *something* when a given download has finished (or > failed) With system-image-dbus, that *something* is "send a 'finished' signal" over D-Bus. That works for s-i because it stays alive and can respond to that request

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 06, 2014, at 01:21 PM, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > >> * and it needs to do *something* when a given download has finished (or >> failed) > > With system-image-dbus, that *something* is "send a 'finished' signal" over > D-Bus. That works

[Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey everyone, That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of people recently, on merge requests [1] and bug reports, and it feels like we should have the discussion on a common place/together, to decide what is best, and all do the same thing. Summary of the issue: - in u

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-appstore-developers] [RFC] Specifying Client Platform Properties to the Click Package Index

2014-03-06 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Natalia wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Michael Nelson > wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, James Tait wrote: >>> I've had a couple of thoughts about how we might approach this: >>> >>> - Pass them as discrete GET parameters. This has the benefit

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Sweeny
On 03/06/2014 12:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey everyone, > > That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of > people recently, on merge requests [1] and bug reports, and it feels > like we should have the discussion on a common place/together, to decide > what is best, a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 06, 2014, at 02:13 PM, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: >So, while the updates are downloading, how is s-i kept alive if the >user switches to other apps? Is it somehow escaping the app lifecycle? Yes, because s-i isn't an app. It's a system bus service itself which is invoked by system settings

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Didier Roche
Another day, another landing email. Two images since yesterday and still two image promotion blockers (once the next image will be built). #222: - new click in preparation for libclick - the online account revert discussed in yesterday's email - indicator sound fixes for the desktop (let's user

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 14-03-06 12:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey everyone, > > That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of people > recently, on merge requests [1] and bug reports, and it feels like we should > have the discussion on a common place/together, to decide what is best, and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 14-03-06 12:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey everyone, > > That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of people > recently, on merge requests [1] and bug reports, and it feels like we should > have the discussion on a common place/together, to decide what is best, and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le 06/03/2014 19:02, Marc Deslauriers a écrit : Wouldn't a better design be to have the lock screen in the user's session? That way each user can have their own lock screen, and it can access the user's data without any security issue and difficulty in transferring data between different security

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On 14-03-06 12:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >> Hey everyone, >> >> That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of people >> recently, on merge requests [1] and bug reports, and it feels like we should >> have the discu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 06, 2014, at 02:13 PM, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > >>So, while the updates are downloading, how is s-i kept alive if the >>user switches to other apps? Is it somehow escaping the app lifecycle? > > Yes, because s-i isn't an app. It's a s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey everyone, > > That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of people > recently, on merge requests [1] and bug reports, and it feels like we should > have the discussion on a common place/together, to decide what is b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 14-03-06 01:08 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 06/03/2014 19:02, Marc Deslauriers a écrit : >> Wouldn't a better design be to have the lock screen in the user's session? >> That >> way each user can have their own lock screen, and it can access the user's >> data >> without any security issue

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 14-03-06 01:16 PM, Ryan Lortie wrote: >> 2. get lightdm to connect to the user-session bus and send back selected >> informations to the greeter. >> >> That seems like the most flexible/powerful solution, giving access to >> the user session might be a concern for security though. > > In a s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Thomas Voß
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Ryan Lortie wrote: > hi, > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014, at 12:19, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >> 1. using accountsservice there as well, maybe adding support for >> "volatile" informations which wouldn't get store. > > I don't like this. > > The reason that we ever started to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Ryan Lortie
hi, On Thu, Mar 6, 2014, at 12:19, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > 1. using accountsservice there as well, maybe adding support for > "volatile" informations which wouldn't get store. I don't like this. The reason that we ever started to put information in accountsservice was pretty simple: because w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Marc Deslauriers
On 14-03-06 01:06 PM, Thomas Voß wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Marc Deslauriers > wrote: >> On 14-03-06 12:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >>> Hey everyone, >>> >>> That's a topic that has been discussed between different groups of people >>> recently, on merge requests [1] and bug repor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Ryan Lortie
hi, On Thu, Mar 6, 2014, at 13:42, Thomas Voß wrote: > (1.) What means stale here? My assumption here is that any update to > AS is timestamped. Taking the media player example into account there are a few situations that I can imagine that something goes wrong and we see 'stale' information (f

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 14:34 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: > - on bootup we see the last song played before last shutdown > - not likely a problem in any volatile storage situation > > - after the user logs out we see what was playing when they were logged > in > > - the user is logged in, but

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Thomas Voß wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >> 2. get lightdm to connect to the user-session bus and send back selected >> informations to the greeter. >> >> That seems like the most flexible/powerful solution, giving access to the >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 13:02 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Ted Gould wrote: > > What we're doing for alarms is having the application provide a URL that > > gets called if the user clicks on the notification. So the clock app sets up > > an alarm and sets the U

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > 1. using accountsservice there as well, maybe adding support for "volatile" > informations which wouldn't get store. > > That's the first suggestion made and some people started work using that > approach. It feels suboptimal though, since

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Robert, what do you think of 2 and 3 from a lightdm perspective? Would you > be happy to add support for one of those? 2 is no and we essentially have 3. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lis

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
On 03/06/2014 12:57 PM, Didier Roche wrote: Remaining issues for promoting an image: On remaining things to fix, so, we still have: 1. Clock apps flaky tests and bugs (Nicholas + SDK team) The SDK team is on that one zsombi is working hard, and afaik has a merge in the works. This is looking goo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Just a note image 224 otherwise seems fine; I experienced some flakiness in the loudspeaker not toggling properly which I believe Alan has already noted here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1288692 Nicholas -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Didier Roche wrote: > Another day, another landing email. Two images since yesterday and still two > image promotion blockers (once the next image will be built). > > #222: > - new click in preparation for libclick > - the online account revert discussed in yesterda

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Robert Park
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Didier Roche wrote: > Click apps conversion landing: > 1. Get the CI Train silo ready with the click changes + ubuntu-touch > metapackage Check. > 2. Having the click app packages built as well Check. > 3. Test everything locally (Sergio) Check. > 4. Counter-s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Alejandro J. Cura
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Ted Gould wrote: > The question is whether the end result is "the click is installed" or "the > user is told that it's downloaded, and then can choose to install it." And > that is a design question, where I haven't seen the design. The end result with the current

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Kevin Gunn
Hey Didier - on the Mir build topic. the build looked really good, AP tests were passing...including the keyboard AP test. however, through manual testing I found a regression we created somehow. the bug is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-mir/+bug/1289058 for now, we'll take mir out of silo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing 06.03.14

2014-03-06 Thread Didier Roche
Le 07/03/2014 04:09, Kevin Gunn a écrit : Hey Didier - on the Mir build topic. the build looked really good, AP tests were passing...including the keyboard AP test. however, through manual testing I found a regression we created somehow. the bug is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-mir/+bu