Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Heating issue with today's Galaxy Nexus (maguro)build

2013-07-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Sa, 2013-07-13 at 19:45 -0700, Mike Bybee wrote: > There were no apps showing - I had to reimage it back to the previous > day, but I hadn't actually launched anything yet. > I was just in the process of setting up wi-fi when it began to get > really really hot. > sounds like https://bugs.l

[Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Jackson Doak
Are there any current plans to include wireless AC support in ubuntu phone/touch? I feel this would help make ubuntu phone competitive in the phone OS market by beating many mainstream OSes to supporting it. More info can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac -- Mailing list: h

[Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Jackson Doak
How difficult/time consuming would it be to port ubuntu touch to a generic $60 tablet off ebay? i'm looking for a cheap one to test ubuntu on and integrate in a computer case. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https:/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread leon lee
wireless AC is an hardware issue. Without the hardware, there's nothing ubuntu phone/touch can do. -- Original -- From: "Jackson Doak"; Date: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 04:58 PM To: "ubuntu-phone"; Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC Are there any current plans t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Jackson Doak
That is true, but hardware exists. There are USB dongles that some tablets can use already and phones will likely be shipping it by the 14.04 release. http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/431602/broadcom_plans_fast_802_11ac_wi-fi_phones_early_next_year/ On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM, leon lee

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On So, 2013-07-14 at 19:10 +1000, Jackson Doak wrote: > That is true, but hardware exists. There are USB dongles that some > tablets can use already and phones will likely be shipping it by the > 14.04 release. > http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/431602/broadcom_plans_fast_802_11ac_wi-fi_p

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch on Emulator

2013-07-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On So, 2013-07-14 at 17:10 +0800, leon lee wrote: > I still have issue with mountall. Hope someone would help. > mountall: root filesystem isn't mounted > mount_policy: /: dropping filesystem because it has an already mounted > child (/proc) > assuming yoou try to boot an unflipped image in yo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fail to build m7tmo (T-Mobile HTC One)

2013-07-14 Thread András Mamenyák
This is great, I had the same error and was talking about it here on the mailing list. When you have this kind of error (Error 1), you need to look a little bit into the output, because the real error is some lines before. Look: hardware/qcom/display-caf/libexternal/external.cpp: In member functio

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Zisu Andrei
For how long will there be this dependency on Android's stack? I know it's nice "we are building on the shoulders of giants", but saying "If Android doesn't support it, we won't either" is a bit lazy. Zisu Andrei On 14 July 2013 10:16, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > On So, 2013-07-14 at 19:10 +

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On So, 2013-07-14 at 12:18 +0100, Zisu Andrei wrote: > For how long will there be this dependency on Android's stack? I know > it's nice "we are building on the shoulders of giants", but saying "If > Android doesn't support it, we won't either" is a bit lazy. as long as we want to support devi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Installed Ubuntu touch on Nexus 10, unable to get device recognized by ADB

2013-07-14 Thread Benjamin Tegge
Use the factory image for the Nexus 10 from Google and flash it via fastboot. Depending on the backup format you should be able to restore the needed data. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubunt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Development] Quantal port = blackscreen (with adblogcats)

2013-07-14 Thread Ewan Smith
fstab: # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:09 AM, leon lee wrote: > hi Ewan, can you do me a favor? Just "cat /data/ubuntu/etc/fstab" in adb > shell, and show me the result for me. thanks. > > > -- Original -- > *From: * "Ewan Smith"; >

[Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Andreas Poulsen
Hi guys After testing some of my Ubuntu Touch apps, I thought, that if any Ubuntu Phone app should be used on the desktop (we are so proud to tell that they can), there should really be an easier way to bring it up, than "swipe from the bottom". Swiping with a mouse? My first idea was a keyboard sh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
Permanently up, and moved to the top. That's my idea of a simple step in the right direction. I mean, it's fine being at the bottom on desktop, it's just the opposite of normal. We could move the window control bar (maximize, minimize, etc.) to the bottom too and see how that goes... but I don't kn

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Mark Guthrie
Would it not be better to have dependent layouts based on the device similar to device specific CSS for websites? On Jul 14, 2013 7:04 AM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > Permanently up, and moved to the top. That's my idea of a simple step in > the right direction. I mean, it's fine being at the botto

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Zisu Andrei
> > After testing some of my Ubuntu Touch apps, I thought, that if any > Ubuntu Phone app should be used on the desktop (we are so proud to tell > that they can), The current layout they have can work on the desktop, but that doesn't mean they're designed for the desktop. You're trying to solve a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Mills
IMHO not that that matters at all. But the HUD on the desktop uses alt so all one would need to do is add scope and keyboard nav . I have never been a fan of swipe actions this is why. say one is playing a bowling game could you image how many times swipe would messes things up. That is just one ex

[Ubuntu-phone] Ports

2013-07-14 Thread Ryan
I have tried to, unsuccessfully put Ubuntu touch on i9505. Mainly because I've never ported a ROM before. I've seen no other threads anywhere of anyone attempting it either. Why is this model not being developed for yet ? We have cyanogenmod custom recovery's and many other custom roms But no Ubu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
I'm so confused. do you like swipes or not? and why would swiping not make sense on a bowling game? Sincerely, Josh On Jul 14, 2013 9:55 AM, "Joseph Mills" wrote: > IMHO not that that matters at all. But the HUD on the desktop uses alt so > all one would need to do is add scope and keyboard nav

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Mark Guthrie
I think he's saying that swipes make sense on a touch interface like a tablet or a phone but make less sense on a desktop for a perfect example look at the start screen for windows 8. It works great on a tablet but desktop usage leaves much to be desired. On Jul 14, 2013 11:20 AM, "Josh Leverette"

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Zisu Andrei
Since they are clearly labeled "Ubunut Phone Core Apps", I don't get what's the problem. They're not intended to work like that on the desktop. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Mark Guthrie
I understand that but isn't the goal to have apps that work across the different variations of the platform especially considering the overall goal is to have a phone/tablet that you can dock and run for a full desktop experience? On Jul 14, 2013 11:48 AM, "Zisu Andrei" wrote: > Since they are cl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Zisu Andrei
> > I understand that but isn't the goal to have apps that work across the > different variations of the platform especially considering the overall > goal is to have a phone/tablet that you can dock and run for a full desktop > experience? Not even 13.10's phone is fully sorted. It is too early

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Mills
Yeah that is what I meant swipe is not ideal for desktops or anything that uses a mouse. As far as things having labels on them ie phone core apps. I don't think that that should matter the programmer should have a way to say if desktop use this else do this. It down not matter what the platform wh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Andreas Poulsen
On 14-07-2013 18:48, Zisu Andrei wrote: > Since they are clearly labeled "Ubunut Phone Core Apps", I don't get what's > the problem. They're not intended to work like that on the desktop. > > > On the Ubuntu Phone app page: "Write apps for all Ubuntu devices... With the arrival of the Ubuntu SDK, a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Zisu Andrei
> > On the Ubuntu Phone app page: > "Write apps for all Ubuntu devices... With the arrival of the Ubuntu SDK, > apps can be written to work on all Ubuntu form-factors: it’s the same > Ubuntu OS on the desktop and on the phone, so a single native application > can work on both" > It might be, that t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Martin Kaistra
Am 14.07.2013 18:57, schrieb Joseph Mills: > > Yeah that is what I meant swipe is not ideal for desktops or anything > that uses a mouse. As far as things having labels on them ie phone > core apps. I don't think that that should matter the programmer should > have a way to say if desktop use this

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fail to build m7tmo (T-Mobile HTC One)

2013-07-14 Thread Thomas Arouge
I replaced both display and display-caf with cm-10.1 versions, but now I get this error: In file included from hardware/qcom/display-caf/libexternal/external.cpp:31:0: /home/thomasjohnarouge/Documents/ubuntu_touch_porting/out/target/product/m7tmo/obj/KERNEL_OBJ/usr/include/video/msm_hdmi_modes.h:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Mills
Cool But there is no option like that in the sdk at this point. Maybe a q_invokable via QScreen ( logicalDotsPerInch Y/X ) then also could use something like name from the same class that can be used to look at the logical dots and say if ( name === "HDMI" || "VGA" && locicaldotsPerInch <= m_deskt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Mills
Sorry I did not read this before the last message that I posted. The only thing that I see wrong with what you are talking about is the Mouse stuff. What If I have a mouse attached to a phone ? That is why I think that it is best to look at options that just look at the screen. But I am sure that

[Ubuntu-phone] Unable to boot Ubuntu Touch saucy [20130714] build on Nexus 7 3G

2013-07-14 Thread Sayantan Das
Hi, I have been trying to install Ubuntu touch saucy build 20130714 in my Nexus 7 3G since yesterday. Downloading and Installing goes on fine but after the installation is complete, the tablet does not boot into Ubuntu . Its stuck in the Google screen, does not go any further. I kept it on for

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Zisu Andrei
> > That is why I think that it is best to look at options that just look at > the screen. But I am sure that there is flaws in my ideas there always is : > ) I can't remember if it was a vUDS or here on the mailing lists, but there was a discussion about that. The "options" method was preffered.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Dinko Osmankovic
I think the best thing for desktop is to put everything from toolbars to the global menu. It's quite visible there. On 14 Jul 2013 20:03, "Zisu Andrei" wrote: > That is why I think that it is best to look at options that just look at >> the screen. But I am sure that there is flaws in my ideas th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Heating issue with today's Galaxy Nexus (maguro)build

2013-07-14 Thread Mike Bybee
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > On Sa, 2013-07-13 at 19:45 -0700, Mike Bybee wrote: > > There were no apps showing - I had to reimage it back to the previous > > day, but I hadn't actually launched anything yet. > > I was just in the process of setting up wi-fi when

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ports

2013-07-14 Thread Ryan
Currently using Google ROM of i9505G ported to i9505 but xda has cm 10.1 ports for this phone. Jeremy Morales wrote: >Do you have a cm10.1 port? >On Jul 14, 2013 9:53 AM, "Ryan" wrote: > >> I have tried to, unsuccessfully put Ubuntu touch on i9505. >> Mainly because I've never ported a ROM befo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Mills
Ok SO I thought about it some more on my day off from work and this is what I came up with, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38w0XWHuFcA I am sure that Each one of the things that are plugged /qDebuged() out could be used and or read across dbus with ease. It is just a matter of how Canonical want

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Mark Guthrie
I watched the video that you linked to. The question I have is that you said "it seems easier than dealing with layouts," but wouldn't you just use that info to select the proper layout? On Jul 14, 2013 2:14 PM, "Joseph Mills" wrote: > Ok SO I thought about it some more on my day off from work a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design]Toolbar on desktop

2013-07-14 Thread Joseph Mills
Again just ideas here that are not always that good. But I would feed that info over dbus plugin and use zeroconf/avahi/bonjour to register and listen .then on would not be dependent on cords and what not maybe use qnotify or what ever it is called along side of GPS to see if user wants to change f

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Jackson Doak
OK, I'll wait for something cheap to already have it ported or for a Chinese place to run ubuntu touch On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Jeremy Morales wrote: > You would need to first port CM10.1 to it. > > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Jackson Doak wrote: >> >> How difficult/time consuming

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
yeah, sorry for the lack of response. It's too early on to know. if you bought it, you might succeed or you might fail. Chinese tablets typically contain poorly documented chips. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 14, 2013 4:08 PM, "Jackson Doak" wrote: > OK, I'll wait for something cheap to already have it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Jackson Doak
ok. That's reminded me, the imx6 chips have open-sorce drivers and a community behind them. Now if i could find them in a tablet rather than my hiapad hi802 (which i've not got working)... On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > yeah, sorry for the lack of response. It's too earl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-14 Thread Luke Bryan
What do you mean by, Ubuntu won't use Java? Java has been the major multi-core programming language, the platform for smartphone and "dumb-phones" apps, and has come with Ubuntu by default, for a long time now. So will Java, and apps like LibreOffice now be unsupported? Will we have to use Javas

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Luke Bryan
Sounds great - is this technology one and the same as the new 5ghz capable wireless stations? > From: nosk...@ubuntu.com > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:58:48 +1000 > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC > > Are there any current plans to include wireless AC su

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wireless AC

2013-07-14 Thread Jackson Doak
Wireless AC is 5Ghz only, Some later wireless N routers and phones also has 5Ghz On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Luke Bryan wrote: > Sounds great - is this technology one and the same as the new 5ghz capable > wireless stations? > >> From: nosk...@ubuntu.com >> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:58:48 +1

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-14 Thread Josh Leverette
Java is hardly the major multicore programming language. Let's get that out of the way first. Also, libreoffice has been rewritten into C++ over the last few years. If any Java remains, it is rapidly becoming inconsequential. I do agree it has been the dominant platform for dumbphone apps, but that

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fail to build m7tmo (T-Mobile HTC One)

2013-07-14 Thread Thomas Arouge
indeed we do =), But now... You guessed it, I have another error. bootable/recovery/minui/../../../device/htc/m7-common/recovery/graphics.c:60:31: error: 'OVERSCAN_PERCENT' undeclared here (not in a function) make: *** [/home/thomasjohnarouge/Documents/ubuntu_touch_porting/out/target/product/m7tmo

[Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just started back to work on porting the Fascinate. Did a repo sync with phablet-dev-bootstrap which pulled in a bunch of new files. I double checked all the recommended patches and they are still there. Except, now it will not compile. I get: "mak

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
I have a hack to build it. On my phone now, will do full reply tomorrow. On 15 Jul 2013 01:17, "scott" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I just started back to work on porting the Fascinate. Did a repo sync > with phablet-dev-bootstrap which pulled in a bunch of new fil

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2013 08:18 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > I have a hack to build it. On my phone now, will do full reply > tomorrow. I appreciate it. Scott > On 15 Jul 2013 01:17, "scott" wrote: > > I just started back to work on porting the Fascinate.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2013 08:20 PM, David Hacker wrote: > https://github.com/razrqcom-dev-team/android_device_motorola_msm8960-common/commit/a2d90e4c7afddbd610dcea579fb609f5f2005516 I > get the idea of that. I'll give it a shot. Thanks, Scott On Jul 14, 20

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread Joey Carlini
Think I might have ran into this one before. Try sudo apt-get install uboot-mkimage, then build again. It may fix it. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM, scott wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/14/2013 08:20 PM, David Hacker wrote: > > > https://github.com/razrqcom

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2013 09:00 PM, Joey Carlini wrote: > Think I might have ran into this one before. Try sudo apt-get > install uboot-mkimage, then build again. It may fix it. I've compiled all kinds of different android builds and have never heard about uboot

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread Joey Carlini
Glad it could be of interest. I needed it for my Nook Build, but that needed to account for the SD capable boot, so it might have been special circumstances. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM, scott wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/14/2013 09:00 PM, Joey Carlini

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting Samsung Fascinate

2013-07-14 Thread scott
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On 15 Jul 2013 01:17, "scott" wrote: > > I just started back to work on porting the Fascinate. Did a repo > sync with phablet-dev-bootstrap which pulled in a bunch of new > files. I double checked all the recommended patches and they are > still t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Memory question

2013-07-14 Thread Luke Bryan
Thanks for the info! That's an interesting article on Javascript and performance. It seems low memory of mobiles, and better performance, are the reason Ubuntu will be going with mostly Qt/c++ for mobile apps? I'm more of a fan of Python/Java programming, but I can see why this may be beneficial

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Omar B .
There's also rockchip opening up: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/07/12/linux-rockchip-developers-community-up-rockchip-development-boards-coming-soon/ and one product that uses it (apart from all those mini android PCs like the MK808 or MK908), is the Hp slate 7: http://liliputing.com/2013/07/